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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:23 PM
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Anyone watching the House?
My crappy Congresscritter, Ileana Rosanandana, is going on and on about her little "feel-good" Resolution, H.Res. 612:

H. RES. 612
Expressing the commitment of the House of Representatives to achieving victory in Iraq.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

December 15, 2005
Mr. HYDE (for himself and Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on International Relations, and in addition to the Committee on Armed Services, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned


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RESOLUTION
Expressing the commitment of the House of Representatives to achieving victory in Iraq.

Whereas the Iraqi election of December 15, 2005, the first to take place under the newly ratified Iraqi Constitution, represented a crucial success in the establishment of a democratic, constitutional order in Iraq; and

Whereas Iraqis, who by the millions defied terrorist threats to vote, were protected by Iraqi security forces with the help of United States and Coalition forces: Now, therefore, be it


Resolved, That--

(1) the House of Representatives is committed to achieving victory in Iraq;

(2) the Iraqi election of December 15, 2005, was a crucial victory for the Iraqi people and Iraq's new democracy, and a defeat for the terrorists who seek to destroy that democracy;

(3) the House of Representatives encourages all Americans to express solidarity with the Iraqi people as they take another step toward their goal of a free, open, and democratic society;

(4) the successful Iraqi election of December 15, 2005, required the presence of United States Armed Forces, United States-trained Iraqi forces, and Coalition forces;

(5) the continued presence of United States Armed Forces in Iraq will be required only until Iraqi forces can stand up so our forces can stand down, and no longer than is required for that purpose;

(6) setting an artificial timetable for the withdrawal of United States Armed Forces from Iraq, or immediately terminating their deployment in Iraq and redeploying them elsewhere in the region, is fundamentally inconsistent with achieving victory in Iraq;

(7) the House of Representatives recognizes and honors the tremendous sacrifices made by the members of the United States Armed Forces and their families, along with the members of Iraqi and Coalition forces; and

(8) the House of Representatives has unshakable confidence that, with the support of the American people and the Congress, United States Armed Forces, along with Iraqi and Coalition forces, shall achieve victory in Iraq.

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Is this like Congress saving Christmas?

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Also, while our dear Dems try to get a fair and open debate on Iraq going, and they run up against her brick wall, she's also presented a report from the Committee on International Relations in response to Hinchey, Conyers and Waxman's H. RES. 549

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.RES.549 :

Requesting the President of the United States provide to the House of Representatives all documents in his possession relating to his October 7, 2002, speech in Cincinnati, Ohio, and his January 28, 2003, State of the Union address.

What was her issue with this bill? What did that report say?


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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:26 PM
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1. I would call getting us out of Iraq now, ... a "victory".
It would be a winner for our entire country!
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:29 PM
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4. I like the phrase "unshakable confidence"
Wow. "We are resolved that our confidence is unshakable." Oh, my. My confidence in this Congress and this administration is so far from unshakable, it's practically in another hemisphere.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:51 PM
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14. Videos from today, starting at about 9 in the morning about this
on CanOFun- http://www.canofun.com/blog/viddate.asp

I'm so proud of the Dems that are not taking this Republican STUNT lightly.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:28 PM
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2. no details on how to get victory AGAIN
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:39 PM
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9. Right.
But we're all for it. :)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:14 PM
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25. Bush told once
"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."
-Governor George W Bush (R-TX)
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:28 PM
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3. Delahunt doing a yeoman's job in heaving lifting.
"Now that we have a democratically elected Iraqi government, are we preapred to leave on THEIR timetable?" Just the right question. Let's keep asking it.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:46 PM
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12. If we did that, we'd already be gone. :) n/t
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:29 PM
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5. This resolution and $1.75
...will buy you a Grande Drip Coffee at Starbucks.

These guys are giving new meaning to meaningless resolutions.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:36 PM
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8. If it wasn't so pathetic
it would be hysterically funny. Let's make Georgie feel good! C'mon Repubs! Let's not let the opportunity to blow sunshine up the admin's ass pass. No, no... Don't look over there. No, no, there's no reason to see the (false) intelligence that led to this debacle.

Just get in line and, "ALL HAIL BUSH!"

And I don't think $1.75 is gonna get me anything at Starbucks. :)
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:02 PM
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19. Not even a good hit of purple haze.....could never get many in
line to "Hail junior" but orange sunshine up the administration butt would surely change the tone.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:07 PM
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20. Do you remember that SNL skit about Orange Sunshine?
With Aykroyd as Carter?

President Jimmy Carter: How long ago did you take it, Peter?

Peter (on phone): Uh.. I don't know. I can't read my watch.

President Jimmy Carter: Alright, Peter, just listen. Everything is going to be fine. You're very high right now. You will probably be that way for about five more hours. Try taking some vitamin B complex, vitamin C complex.. if you have a beer, go ahead and drink it..

Peter (on phone): Okay..

President Jimmy Carter: Just remember you're a living organism on this planet, and you're very safe. You've just taken a heavy drug. Relax, stay inside and listen to some music, Okay? Do you have any Allman Brothers?

Peter (on phone): Yes, I do, sir. Everything is okay, huh Jimmy?

President Jimmy Carter: It sure is, Peter. You know, I'm against drug use myself, but I'm not going to lay that on you right now. Just mellow out the best you can, okay?

Peter (on phone): Okay..!

President Jimmy Carter: Okay.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 04:37 PM
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35. Hilarious! I'm impressed with your wonderful memory for
details.

Did you write the skit?
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:31 PM
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6. "this vote was a win" - if that were true, we wouldn't need convincing
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:33 PM
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7. What is "Victory in Iraq?"
If you don't know what it is, and your Congresscritter certainly does not, you can never achieve it.

There are nine basic principles of modern warfare. It is no accident that Objective is always listed as the very first of them. That's because if you don't have a clearly defined objective, none of the other principles matter.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:39 PM
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10. Another pointless way to pretend they are actually working.
I know I didn't get you healthcare or end the war or protect your job, but look what I did for patriotism.

Call her office and say you found the performance disgusting and when is she going to get you healthcare, protect your job, and end the war?
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:45 PM
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11. I write her so much
I'm sure I'm on "the list". She's a product of gerrymandering. She's in there for life. The Dems don't even run anyone against her. Some citizen put his name on the ballot in 2004 and garnered 35% of the vote. 35% -- with no publicity. That's huge.

My New Year's resolution is to bug the DCCC to get someone on the ballot and support them. She's ripe for the picking.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:47 PM
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13. i`m waiting for the iraqi bloggers take on this
from early reports i have read it was a success this time. i`m taking some time today to read all the sites and will post later.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:52 PM
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15. another knucklehead from georgia making iraq a holy war. n/t
Edited on Fri Dec-16-05 01:52 PM by DubyasWorld
.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:53 PM
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16. I swear the state of Georgia must clone these stupid suckers.
Where did they find Kingston?
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:55 PM
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18. In the cow fields
under a cow patty.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:54 PM
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17. Didja hear that BS?
OMG. If I were Jesus, I'd be pissssed!
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:09 PM
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21. whoa! chet edwards said he hoped we had as much democracy in
the house today as the iraqis do.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:10 PM
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22. He's my rep-I cannot believe he's saying that-he's for the war!
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:13 PM
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23. TOM DELAY!
YIKES!
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:14 PM
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24. Delay is quoting the Bible, Jesus to be specific.
This is when I wish there was an Old Testament, Old School, strike them dead where they stand GOD.

But Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!

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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:16 PM
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26. Let's hear it for my boys, Lloyd Doggett and Chet Edwards
Salute!

I love those two guys and all they have done for us for so many years.

They're two of the ones who make supporting Dems worthwhile.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:17 PM
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27. He still smells of corruption. Doesn't help a bit. No amount of
holiness will stick to him now. No matter how hard he tries.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:17 PM
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28. if i were a dem, i wouldn't even vote on this cheap political stunt.
Edited on Fri Dec-16-05 02:18 PM by DubyasWorld
just walk out.

AND SCOTTY IS ON!
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:18 PM
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29. Voting now.
Let's see some Dems stand up again.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:28 PM
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30. So far 10 Dems have voted "Present"
:)
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:30 PM
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31. 9 Dems have voted "Yea".
So, who are they?
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:33 PM
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32. is this the last day for the house/senate before the holiday recess?
?
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:45 PM
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33. Nope
They just said there are weekend sessions.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:57 PM
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34. oh crap! evil works overtime. n/t
.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 10:08 PM
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36. I just wanted to post the final vote tally
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll645.xml
Passed: 217-202 14 NV

That's kinda close for a vote of confidence, no?
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