So is anyone else's local winger crowing about the Iraqi elections

[LittleClarkie]

the turnout and how the Iraqis are eager to participate in democracy? "We were RIGHT" said my local guy.

You'd better be right, motherfucker.

But I suspect you are not. The high turnout is the Iraqis saying "Okay, we have an elected government. NOW will you get out of our damn country?"

So, we will be spun to death in the next week or so, with news slowly trickling out that all was not as rosy as we were led to believe. Bush will get a bounce -- watch for it, and don't be dismayed.

But as the real news floats in, and as things do not improve much, he will sink again.

Just as he did in the first elections.

Mind you, I'd rather be wrong. I'd rather all was going to be peachy. But I've lost the ability to believe that this administration could achieve that kind of result.

[ewagner]

1. Part of the incentive to vote

was the unspoken (maybe even spoken in some cases) promise that the sooner the Iraqis elected their own government, the sooner the Americans would leave.....

[LittleClarkie]

3. So I think the massive turnout is one big "Get the flying fuck out of my

country"

Not "Oh boy, democracy! Let me at it! Woohoo!"

[ewagner]

8. EXACTLY! n/t

[Northwind]

2. I've heard it all before

I just say, "The Soviet Union and Nazi Germany had elections and votes too. Elections mean nothing."

[Bushy Being Born]

5. We all better hope this election means something

And that includes you, too.

[elom]

7. Even we get to have "elections"

if you can call them that. It's just a matter of whose votes are being counted.

[newyawker99]

9. Hi elom!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[elom]

11. Thanks ny99,

(excellent job w/your sig), been lurkin' for a while now. Finally got angry enough to take the time and post:argh:

[alcibiades_mystery]

4. To echo another poster, we've heard it all before

After the two Hussein brothers were killed, it would all be over. After saddam himself was captured, it would all be over. After the end of the Coalition Provisional Authority, it would all be over. After the January elections, it would all be over. After the October election, it would all be over. After this election, they'll say it again.

And it will just keep going on as it has gone on. Relentless war, deaths mounting, world anger, the destruction of the armed forces. It is a lie, propaganda. The propagandists have many benchmarks, many supposed "victories." They have a million slogans to fool a million and one idiots. The insurgents have only one slogan, though it comes in the form of an IED, a sniper's bullet, or a suicide car bomb.
It is the only slogan that no propaganda can defeat, for it is the opposite of propaganda, and infinitely stronger. It goes like this:

Welcome to the Desert of the Real

[Javaman]

6. Some boob in my office was squawking about it, I shut him up quick..

I said, this is the equivelent of the brits holding our first election.

No responce.

[Jacobin]

13. good analogy

[KansDem]

10. Didn't Saddam have "elections" in which more than 98% voted?

Just asking...

[Jacobin]

12. They all crowed and said the same thing last time

Look what happened.

Things got worse.

Let them crow. They are stupid and this will not work no matter how much propaganda and feelgoodism TV is aired.

[rfrrfrrfr]

14. where did the numbers on turnout come from?

Last time they said there was a huge turn out, except they were wrong there wasn't anywhere near as large a turnout as they originally thought.