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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:40 PM
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Imagine a Democratic president with the full powers of the Patriot Act
Imaging the AEI and the Heritage Foundation being shut down as terrorist organizations. Imagine bugging devices being put on the walls at Fox News, or sneak and peek search warrants of Rush Limbaugh's EIB studios, and secret interceptions of mail sent by the Christian Coalition.

A Democratic Administration could have a lot of fun with the Patriot Act. We can have all of the anti-abortion groups declared as terrorist organizations, shut down conservative talk shows and jail Ann Coulter as an enemy combatant (and rendition her off to some secret Polish CIA prison).

You get a Democrat in there and these people can be silenced with the Patriot Act.

The conservatives had better be careful what they wish for. Their people won't be in power forever and ever. That's just not how American politics works.

The next time you get into a scape with a conservative over the Patriot Act, ask him or her if they would trust these powers in the hands of a Democratic president (maybe throw out Hillary Clinton as a real boogy man).
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:45 PM
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1. Not A Pretty Sight. Even Knowing You Mean This As Humor.
Can you speak up a little louder?
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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:45 PM
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2. they won't be in power forever?
if they have Diebold everywhere, they will...
which is one more reason why I think our elections have been thoroughly corrupted.
If the Repukes felt there was snowball's chance that they would ever be on the receiving end of some of this crap they're pulling, they'd be screaming bloody murder.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:53 PM
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8. Voting machine conspiracies are overstated
Even if there is funny business going on with the machines, they would still have to let Democrats win once in awhile so as to not let people think that there is foul play involved.

Second, many states with these machines have Democratic SecState's, like Georgia's Cathy Cox. If Republicans steal elections, then they can steal them back.
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:46 PM
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3. That's funny...
Oh look, a permanent patriot act AND no filibuster.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:46 PM
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4. Imagine if a Democrat owned Diebold
Edited on Thu Dec-15-05 04:47 PM by Ezlivin
Then all that magical stuff would happen.

Me? I'm pretty cynical that we can win any more elections regardless of how right we are or how many people show up to vote.

If the people won't rise up in anger after the fiasco of the past two presidential elections, they'll rise up too late to matter.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:52 PM
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7. Wouldn't it be nice if Soros bought the ailing
Diebold company? What do you suppose the Republican response would be?
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:56 PM
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10. They'd outlaw machine voting!
:rofl:
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:58 PM
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11. The Republicans would immediately file charges of vote tampering
And Rush Limbaugh would be off and running...
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:48 PM
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5. Good description...
Edited on Thu Dec-15-05 04:49 PM by tocqueville
let's get rid of the enemies of America....

:sarcasm:

BTW if a Democrat president used these powers, the FBI would probably find so much nasty ACCURATE evidence about repubs and fundies, that the judges and lawyers would have to work 24/24.
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iwanmycntrybak Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:52 PM
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6. Just think hat we could do
with the Nuclear Option!
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:55 PM
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9. And what porno Clarence Thomas rented at his favorite video store?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 05:00 PM
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13. Does anyone have the list of Clarence's porno rentals? n/t
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 08:21 AM
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14. I remember the store wouldn't release the list because of privacy
issues which they entitled to all their clients. I think if the Senate pushed, they could have gotten around that one.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:59 PM
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12. There would not have been an Oklahoma bombing?
The right-wing loves Terri Nichols.

There's apparently a movement to free him.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 08:46 AM
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15. Imagine a Democrat in power on 9/11/01
Right wing extremists, and all their malitia-wannabe buddies out on their compounds, would have applauded the terrorists and would have declared it to be another victory in the war on the evil government.

Remember back in the 90's, when conservatives hated America and it was ok that they did?

They would have kept that hatred into 2001...
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