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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:15 PM
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Bush's* admission
This statement of responsability seems so uncharacteristic.
I have to wonder what NEW information is about to come out?
What is the admin trying to "get in front" of now?
Any thoughts?
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:17 PM
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1. "Incursion" into Iran/Syria. Pull the wool over the eyes of the public
Edited on Thu Dec-15-05 12:17 PM by Feeney2
again, and let the slaughter begin.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:20 PM
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3. Well, you have to admit..
.. that the leader of Iran isn't helping matters with
his very inflammatory rhetoric against Israel and his
public denial of the Holocaust.

Still, absolutely, we should not attack Iran. It's just
that jingoist, pro war, rahrah Americans might really go
for it.

Sue
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:27 PM
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7. It would be suicide
for the US or Israel to try to invade Iran. We can't even control Iraq after destroying their army and defenses for 10 years prior. If we invade Iran, the Shites in Iraq with join forces with them and we will get our asses seriously kicked.

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:57 PM
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11. I think it would be stupid too but .....
Edited on Thu Dec-15-05 12:57 PM by Botany
.... we would win all the battles but loose the war. Our military could take any objective they wanted
but the minute they would leave or go out in small patrols then we would loose.

Kinda like Fullahja which we "won" in Nov of 04 but after we left the "other side" took control of
again.

I wonder if bush is so delusional that he thinks that he could take over Iran?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:42 PM
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12. Iran has a real military that will respond
It will be no comparison between Iraq and Iran in terms of what we have had to face militarily.

Of course the Rapture nuts want this, so all bets are off on what Bush will do if given the opportunity.

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:08 PM
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15. Again we could wipe the floor w/ Iran's Army but we ....
..... would still loose the war. Not unless * decides to go nuclear or use fuel air explosives.
Or we occupy like the nazis did in WW II europe .... shoot one german soldier and 20 to 100 civilians
are killed. Asshole has stretched our military way too thin already.

I really think he (bush) is dangerously unhinged and might get us into WW III. I think the
generals know that and that is why the talked to Murtha.

* really is a little bully w/ zero military or international knowledge ..... less then 1 month before
he started his Iraqi mess he didn't know the difference between Shi ites and Sunnis.

You are right though that Iran does have more people and a bigger military then Iraq. Personally
I think bush should go to Iraq ASAP and lead the troops from the front.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:19 PM
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2. I'm sorry, but I didn't hear any admission yesterday.
I think the media is trying to run with idea, and unfortunately many are buying it.

To answer your question, I think he said something that sounded like an admission yesterday knowing that today's headlines would be all about Iraq, and their great new democracy.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:24 PM
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5. ditto ;-) !
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:25 PM
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6. Yep, just like he accepted responsibility for the FEMA mess.
It means nothing. Just platitudes to soothe the anxious sheeple. The great and powerful ( :puke: ) dubya takes it on the chin.....your chin. That smirk makes my blood run cold.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:32 PM
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9. I'll buy that.
I knew Shrubs FEMA "mea culpa" to be blatantly insincere on it's face but I was just hoping that this
time it may be an indicator of something big. These swine never do ANYTHING without thought of political gain...
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:44 PM
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13. Exactly.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:23 PM
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4. Blatant attempt to get poll numbers up.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:31 PM
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8. bush didn't admit to anything- all he did
was acknowledge that HE was responsible for waging war- a war that had no 'legitimate basis'- and then, he went on to say he'd do it all over again-
TRANSLATION-
Yeah, i f==ked everyone over, there was 'faulty inteligence'- i don't admit i knew that, or demanded it be created, and even though i've killed, and ruined thousands upon thousands of lives- from all walks of life- i'd DO IT ALL AGAIN!!

He's still being 'marketed' to the world- Short, sound bites- that mean nothing when examined, but that deceptively appear to be something people are clammoring to hear- and are words that 'placate' the folks that are too 'busy' and too fearful of slowing down to see the mess this world is, to notice they are being played- by Madison Avenues best-

We are being sold a bill of goods, for such foul, evil garbage that is wrapped in 'religion' 'courage' 'patriotism' and 'righteousness'-

it's all box, no contents.

we come cheap.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:33 PM
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10. It sounded to me like he was patting himself on the back
He passed the buck on "bad intel" and then touted how democracy was breaking out all over the middle east because he was so steadfast. :eyes:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:47 PM
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14. He didn't admit SHIT!
He said he GOT bad intelligence.. The truth is he send Cheney over to the CIA over and over again until he'd FOUND it (And now we know it was manufactured by a separate "Iraq group" that was stove-piping evidence that was obtained under TORTURE and was recanted BEFORE the invasion!!)

What a load of BS
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:17 PM
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16. Ok OK, I get it...
I never said I felt that he offered a sincere or honest apology! but we all see that this admin ussually only gives flat out denials and nothing more EVER. I wondered about what this slight change in tactics may portend. That's all.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 03:04 PM
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17. In the first place, he didn't actually take any real responsibility.
He only stated such obvious truths as "it was my decision to go into Iraq".
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 03:05 PM
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18. He himself leaked the CIA agent's name to Rove?
:shrug:
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