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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:07 PM
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The Lie of the Century
The Lie of the Century

It's time to overthrow the liars, time to act, time to get out of Iraq and stay out of all other "evil" countries so labeled by the liars.


This excellent article present the case as clearly as possible.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/lieofthecentury.html
(The site has lots of photos and links - take a look.)

THE LIE OF THE CENTURY

The Downing Street Memo is only the beginning of the proof we were all lied to.

"All war is based on deception." -- Sun Tzu, The Art of War

There is nothing new in a government lying to their people to start a war. Indeed because most people prefer living in peace to bloody and horrific death in war, any government that desires to initiate a war usually lies to their people to create the illusion that support for the war is the only possible choice they can make.

President McKinley told the American people that the USS Maine had been sunk in Havana Harbor by a Spanish mine. The American people, outraged by this apparent unprovoked attack, supported the Spanish American War. The Captain of the USS Maine had insisted the ship was sunk by a coal bin explosion, investigations after the war proved that such had indeed been the case. There had been no mine.

Hitler used this principle of lying to his own people to initiate an
invasion. He told the people of Germany that Poland had attacked first and staged fake attacks against German targets. The Germans, convinced they were being threatened, followed Hitler into Poland and into World War 2.

FDR claimed Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack. It wasn't. The United States saw war with Japan as the means to get into war with Germany, which Americans opposed. So Roosevelt needed Japan to appear to strike first. Following an 8-step plan devised by the Office of Naval Intelligence, Roosevelt intentionally provoked Japan into the attack. Contrary to the official story, the fleet did not maintain radio silence, but sent messages intercepted and decoded by US intercept stations. Tricked by the lie of a surprise attack, Americans marched off to war.

President Johnson lied about the Gulf of Tonkin to send Americans off to fight in Vietnam. There were no torpedoes in the water in the Gulf. LBJ took advantage of an inexperienced sonar man's report to goad Congress into escalating the Vietnam

It is inescapable historical reality that leaders of nations will lie to their people to trick them into wars they otherwise would have refused. It is not "conspiracy theory" to suggest that leaders of nations lie to trick their people into wars. It is undeniable fact.

This brings us to the present case.

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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:14 PM
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1. Except for the FDR claim sure.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:19 PM
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2. No, the FDR claim is proven fact.
There have been numerous sources for this accounting of the leadup to WW2.
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:28 PM
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4. From a documentary that aired on the History Channel
It really raised doubts in my mind about FDR. Apparently, several books were written exposing the lie about Pearl Harbor, very interesting.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:39 PM
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7. History channel? Hardly a credible source.
Freepers have been trying this smear for years.
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 05:06 PM
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8. They presented both sides of the argument
Through the years, I never questioned anything about FDR, it just opened my eyes to the possibility.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:35 PM
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5. Hardly a "proven fact"
A fifty-year smear campaign is not a "fact".
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:22 PM
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3. now what are we going to do about the DSM?
we've got to find a way to get rid of the present administration. Then everything will be revealed including 9/11
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:37 PM
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6. Good timing on this article. Didn´t discuss how journalists are complicit
Hearst´s involvement in the Spanish-American war is famous. And the Judy Miller-embedded media´s essential work on supporting the current lie.
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