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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:42 AM
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Hey George, It's Not Your Prerogative to Wantonly Attack Other Nations >>>
Edited on Thu Dec-15-05 12:00 PM by Stephanie


You don't have the RIGHT to invade sovereign nations that are not a threat just because you want to change their form of government. You are not Emperor of the World. It's not your decision. It's not your right. It's not your business to spend $500 BILLION of our money, murder 30,000 citizens of a foreign country, sacrifice the lives of 2000 of our brave troops, at your whim. If there is no threat you CANNOT DO IT. Who do you think you are?






HUME: It was an evident decision after the election to try to be above the political fray. You came under a grueling attack on the use of pre-war intelligence, on the Iraq policy itself. And the response that — the administration was remarkably passive for a long time. Why was that?

BUSH: I just came off an election, and we're trying to elevate the debate and put politics behind and see if that couldn't happen. It didn't happen. But I've always felt like one of my jobs is to try to change the tone in Washington, D.C., to bring people together for the common good. To the best of my ability, it was just that dragging the presidency in the name-calling and the finger-pointing and the blaming — but no, you're right.

And we took a blasting and have begun recently to make the case in a more forceful way to the American people, first of all rejecting this notion that, you know, we lied about intelligence, reminding people that some of those people making those accusations looked at the same intelligence I looked at and voted for use of force in Iraq.


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HUME: Can you say today that if you had known then what you know now about the weapons, that you would have made the same decision.

BUSH: I said it today, and I said it at the last speech I gave.

And I've said it throughout the campaign to the American people. I said I made the right decision. Knowing what I know today, I would have still made that decision.


HUME: Now if you had this — if the weapons had been out of the equation, because the intelligence did not conclude that he had them, it was still the right call?

BUSH: Absolutely.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,178760,00.html



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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:45 AM
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1. But unca dick said is was OK. Unca dick said cause congress
gave me the power I can invade anybody.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:45 AM
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2. The Daily Star,
The paper from the middle east, had a whole story yesterday on Bush's insistence on his right to invade anyone he deems a threat. Great way to make the world secure, that .......
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 08:47 AM
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34. really? do you have a link to that story?
this is why they never let him off the leash. and honestly, isn't this proof that he's insane?
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:09 AM
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37. Yes, I do.....
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_ID=10&article_ID=20778&categ_id=2

Sorry for the late response .....I didn't come back to look at this until I realized there was a response!

The paper has a free newsletter that you can subscribe to, as well. I find I get more and better information from the Daily Star and der Speigel than from most of the North American media, especially the USS stuff.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:46 AM
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3. Well, that makes completely no sense.
A decision based on bad information, falsified informtation, forged information, spurious information is still good? On what basis? It fully falls on the mythical 9/11 connection and the Saddaam is a baddass argument. Neither flies. Stay the frickin course right off the end of the cliff. This, IMHO, is good news for us. It means that in the mid-terms, the gop will be straddled with an upopular war, which, if you missed it, just had another $100billion dropped on it.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:02 PM
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16. And with some canidates
with the republicans you can just make an ad of the person with Bush. Heh!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 03:10 PM
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25. It makes no sense unless you think of yourself as dictator of the world
Which is exactly his point of view. Don't question him, don't challenge him, and if he wants to shock and awe another nation don't ask questions. He's a sick evil man and this proves it. Why isn't it getting press?
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:49 AM
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4. The Great Leader can do whatever He wants. He owns the
country. Where have you been? This is the new reality. We all live by the grace and largess of the Great Leader; the sooner you "get" this fact, the better off you'll be...
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:44 PM
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22. Well there's where he's wrong.
And now that he's announced his POV we need to make sure everyone sees how he thinks. He will go on bombing whoever he likes without justification just so long as the world allows him to do it. They are talking today about Bush taking responsibility for mistakes. He is not taking responsibility. He's saying he would do it anyway. That's out of line. What can we do about it?
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 08:28 AM
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33. We must remove him and his criminal cronies from power. There
appears to be only one way to do this, but I don't think enough citizens are willing to join together and do it. But it needs to be done, and done now...
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:54 AM
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5. This needs to be analyzed a bit by some clear thinking minds
" I said I made the right decision. Knowing what I know today, I would have still made that decision."
He said he would do it again knowing Saddam was no threat and the USA was not in danger. I mean that is what we know today yet he would still chose war. Why???? We need to ask Why???? This needs to be used in Ads throughout the nation and other Republicans need to be asked if they agree?
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:02 PM
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9. Why? good question
I believe his answer is because this is his response to terrorism. He should go back to high school and study government since he apparently cut those classes. He is not ready even for government 101. No one in govt. has the guts to bring charges against him for changing our Constitution.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:00 PM
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13. And yet it's proven there was no link to Iraq and terrorism
So why does he say that, knowing the truth, he would do it anyway? No WMD, no terrorism, but he would still shock and awe Iraq. On what grounds?
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:05 PM
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10. Because he was going to get his war no matter what
that's why.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:01 PM
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14. That's not his prerogative
Not his choice, not his option, not within his powers.
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:45 PM
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23. You make a good point, but I don't think that matters
to Mr. Bush
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:46 PM
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24. yes but everything isn't UP to Mr. Bush
And he needs to learn that and we need to teach him.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:06 PM
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11. He really thinks no one will call him on this and apparently that's the
case. It's his usual "in your face" arrogant way of telling everyone to Fuck off! He's the pResident and CIC and he will do whatever he wants. He'll even perhaps admit mistakes were made, but who is anyone to question his motives or decisions? If we don't like it, we can all go take a flying leap off the nearest cliff, because he doesn't care, and he knows no one is going too hold him accountable. I really hate this shit! :grr:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:30 PM
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30. It's ILLEGAL.
Who placed him above the law?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:29 PM
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19. "Knowing what I know today, I would have still made that decision."
ON WHAT GROUNDS???
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:55 AM
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6. bush skips right over those old fashion constitution issues
We got us a New country now, new rules. He calls it changing the world and he is so right. Now we all need to hush and pay homage.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:58 AM
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8. I'm ordering my "BUSH IS GOD" bumper-sticker, today!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:56 AM
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7. Excellent Stephanie!
Edited on Thu Dec-15-05 11:56 AM by goclark

What I don't understand is why the MSM can't see the huge holes in his story that point to TREASON and IMPEACHMENT.

They are so busy talking about the phony election in Iraq.

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:20 PM
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18. He opens his mouth on Fox News where he thinks he's on friendly ground
Fox News is our friend in that they encourage him to mnake these irrational, illegal pronouncements. All Heil the Chimperor!
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schmuls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:24 PM
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12. Who do I think I am? Who do I think I am??!!??
I'm the president of the united states. Hell, I'd be a dictator if I could, it would be a hell of a lot easier! Don't start complaining when we start arresting people who are the enemy or who have even in the slightest way aided an enemy. Haven't you heard of the Patriot Act? And since the Constitution is just a piece of goddamed paper, don't think that anyone can fall back on that either. And just so any of you start worrying about all of this, just remember, I take full responsibility for everything! I'm the King of the Fucking World!!!!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:04 PM
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17. And of course
if this was a democrat doing the same things he's doing they would've been impeached LONG ago.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:01 PM
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15. Remember what he said in 2000?
He said in, I believe the debate with Gore, that we shouldn't police the world. Gee what happened to that Georgie?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:31 PM
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20. well there are no real checks and balances.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:25 PM
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21. There has to be some recourse.
There has to be something that can be done. There's an insane megalomaniac in the WH who announces that he has the right to bomb anyone he wants for reasons known only to him and that's going to go unchallenged?
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 03:51 PM
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27. And he truly goes unchallenged!!
How does this happen? We blame the media and they are a big part of the problem. The election process is another part. So, what can we do, and that is your question. We once thought we could change things when they went seriously wrong, like boot someone out of office and do something different. That doesn't happen anymore. There is no way this idiot should have been re-elected, war pres. or not. Hell, he caused the war.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:04 PM
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29. Who will stop him? My only hope lies with Europe at this point.
Congress won't do sh&t.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 09:30 AM
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35. Our system at present is dysfunctional
Edited on Fri Dec-16-05 09:32 AM by mmonk
It's going to take world leadership to water down the seeds of war.
(Or should I say douse the flames of war?)
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 03:26 PM
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26. "... It's Not Your Prerogative to Wantonly Attack Other Nations ".
Unfortunately he does Want-only to Attack Other Nations. :nuke:


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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 03:51 PM
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28. And he's ready to do it again.
Who will stop him???
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:48 PM
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31. If only we could talk to *
if only he would listen. This man is in a different world and will NEVER admit what he's doing is wrong. He will parrot this line of reasoning until the day he dies. He is a member of the ruling class and these actions taken prove that.
The idea of one man, one vote, liberty, justice and pulling your self up by your boot straps is for the most part, bunk.
He is one of the wealthy elite and they will never, ever give up what they have. Never. Can't say as I blame them. If I had that much money maybe I'd feel the same. However, such is not the case.
This is the greatest country in the history of the world. For the ruling class. Better than having to be under the power of the King or the Pope. They can buy government or just run it themselves under the guise of 'installing democracy, or overthrowing dictators'. It's all bullshit.........

Wow, I didn't know I was so pissed off! :)
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:50 PM
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32. Of course you're pissed off.
It's an absolute outrage.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 09:34 AM
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36. Bush is not a normal American.
Long ago it became obvious that he is no conservative, and he's not much of a Republican either. His actions are explicitly un-American (and increasingly so) and his attitude toward people is inhumane to the point of being inhuman.

So, just what IS this thing we have in the Oval Office?
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