The neo-con circle jerk is beginning

[bluestateguy]

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Word of advice. Avoid the corporate media tomorrow.

[bbinacan]

1. I happen to hope the

election goes well so we can get the hell out of there.

[Lex]

2. I agree. nt

[FreedomAngel82]

6. Do they even know what they are voting for??

Aren't all of these elections just them closing their eyes and voting for something? I wouldn't be able to do that. In the last election on my ticket on the back there was some things to vote for and I had no clue about it, so I just didn't vote for them.

[Contrary1]

8. I think I heard on the news that there were 6,000 candidates. n/t

[bbinacan]

9. I give them credit

for being intelligent. I think they are smarter then you give them credit. I also think they would be offended by this assertion.

[FreedomAngel82]

28. So you walking into a booth

with six thousand canidates you'd know what to vote for?

[FlemingsGhost]

16. Can you please elaborate upon what "goes well" means? (n/t)

Flem.

[bbinacan]

20. I'm not sure I understand what

you're getting at with this question. But, here goes. An election with no or minimal violence. A permanent gov't that will be stable. An election that does not end in civil war. An election that allows us to get the hell out of there. An election that gives them a Democracy. An election that will include all sects. (even the Sunnis are expected to participate). I can go on. I ask again, what was your point?

[FlemingsGhost]

21. My point was to ask a question.

Quite a list of expectations you've provided.

Thanks for taking the time.

[bbinacan]

25. You are

welcome.:toast:

[mcctatas]

3. Ya know, I am unfortunately one of those people who think in pictures...

so now I have a very graphic and disturbing mental picture of bush, cheney, rummy, mcclellan, frist, santorum et.al. sitting in a circle, flogging their collective bishops and making the "O" face...:scared::puke::yoiks:

[johnnybaseball]

17. Ya know

I DIDNT have that image until now.

Thanks a lot.

:P

[mcctatas]

40. I like to share....

No, really, I do apologize, no one deserves that;)

[Jara sang]

4. She needs to wash that blood off that finger.

[bbinacan]

10. Blood?

What are you saying?:shrug:

[long_green]

36. Is she a Klingon?

it would explain a lot.

[babylonsister]

5. Amen. It's about the Iraqi vote..

Screw what's happening w/Diebold and our voting rights.:eyes:
Then again, there are several things that tick me off and get my ire
up these days.

[No Exit]

7. Oldie but goodie:

To anyone who expresses "hope" or "admiration" regarding the Iraqi "election" going well, just smile wistfully and say, "Yes, and maybe someday we, too, can have transparent and fair elections HERE, too!"

[FreedomAngel82]

29. Quite sad really

We don't even get a decent election. *sigh* It's really depressing.

[No Exit]

37. I'm about to depress you even more

... if you don't already know about THIS:

"Designer of verified vote system dies in unlucky accident
by Holly Edwards, The Tennessean

March 14, 2004

After more than 1 million votes went uncounted in the last presidential election, Athan Gibbs Sr. devoted his life to making sure voters in future elections would know their votes mattered.

The enterprising 57-year-old saw his invention of the TruVote vote-casting system as nothing less than the key to social justice and democracy in America.

As family members and business partners gathered at the TruVote office yesterday morning to mourn Mr. Gibbs' death, they vowed that his dream would not die with him.

Mr. Gibbs was killed about 10:30 a.m. Friday in a car crash on Interstate 65 near Eighth Avenue North as he drove from his north Nashville home to his downtown office at Tennessee State University's Business Incubation Center."

(snip)

http://www.unknownnews.net/030314truvote.html

Really sad, and really eerie.

[nicknameless]

11. Sure looks like Judith Miller! Plucked eyebrows on an IRAQI woman?!!!!!!

I'm SERIOUS. Look at the eyebrows. Do Iraqi women really have the luxury to sit around plucking and perfecting their eyebrows? Give me a break. That is NOT an Iraqi woman.

The nose especially looks like Miller's.

[ninkasi]

19. I think so, too...

I was wondering, too, if I had ever seen an Iraqi woman with bangs. You can see the fringes of her bangs, if you look closely. Judith Miller's long lost twin?

[nicknameless]

22. Sure isn't an Iraqi. I wonder where the OP photo is from?

;)

[Silver Gaia]

31. Why wouldn't an Iraqi woman pluck her eyebrows?

I mean, granted, their country is torn apart by our war machine, and yes, the woman in this picture does bear an uncanny resemblance to Judith Miller, and that's kinda creepy. BUT, nonetheless, I don't think it's fair to assume that she's not an Iraqi woman just because she plucks her eyebrows or has a fringe of bangs. You might be surprised at what's under that hijab and abayah! ;) I'm not dissing you for your reaction. I'm suspicious of EVERYTHING these days, too. I just think it isn't quite fair to Iraqi women to suggest that they wouldn't be interested in taking care of their appearance. Elizabeth Warnock Fernea wrote a really interesting book (an ethnography) called Guests of the Sheik about her life with Iraqi women that I recently read. Believe it or not, there was even a "beautician" in the village of El Nahra where she lived (an old woman named Qanda who specialized in tatoos!). Granted, Fernea was writing about her experiences there in the 1950s, but I doubt that their cultural values in the villages have changed all that much since then. As I said, it's not my intention to diss your opinion. I'm mistrustful of anything the media puts out, too. Just sticking up for the Iraqi women. ;)

[nicknameless]

33. My comment wasn't about cultural values. It was about the fact that the

country is indescribably war-torn, and people, who have lived in survival for years (some would say over a decade), aren't likely to be perfectly plucked like the woman in the photograph.

Living under the threat of "Shock and Awe", "Shake and Bake Willie Pete" (white phosphorous), depleted uranium, plus seemingly endless death and destruction, changes people's way of life.

That Iraqi women went to "beauticians" in the 1950s isn't a surprise. Iraq, prior to the US invasion of the 1990s, was remarkably "modern", by Middle East standards. Females worked and attended school, and their attire was very "western" compared to that of other countries in the region. Our "bombing them back to the Middle Ages" in the 1990s changed everything.

Anyway ... Beyond the fact that the "election" was a farce, the woman in the photo looks VERY much like Judith Miller.

[KharmaTrain]

12. More Dead Cats Bouncing...

The emperor...or the chimp...has no clothes and it's obvious to almost everyone...Almost.

The "dirty secret" is except for this regime and its corporate media lackeys and stenographers, this election is viewed as rigged and illegitimate by the rest of the world. We know that the results are only binding on the American firepower and the second we leave, these results and the entire "Constitutional" sham will collapse on its own lies.

Instead of this being a "proud" day...I see it as a day of shame. This country used to export democratic values through example, not by the barrel of a gun.

[datadiva]

13. Is it just me

Or does that picture look like Judy Miller?

[54anickel]

26. Uncanny resemblance, isn't it? They wouldn't be THAT stupid, or

would they?

[Nostradammit]

27. Here's another angle of Ms. Miller

Hmmmmm...

They share the same right eyebrow.

How fuckin' cheesy would that be if they actually posed Judy.

[Nostradammit]

30. P.S. Check out this article from '03 about the embedded Miller -

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0625-05.htm

Embedded Reporter's Role In Army Unit's Actions Questioned by Military
by Howard Kurtz


New York Times reporter Judith Miller played a highly unusual role in an Army unit assigned to search for dangerous Iraqi weapons, according to U.S. military officials, prompting criticism that the unit was turned into what one official called a "rogue operation."

More than a half-dozen military officers said that Miller acted as a middleman between the Army unit with which she was embedded and Iraqi National Congress leader Ahmed Chalabi, on one occasion accompanying Army officers to Chalabi's headquarters, where they took custody of Saddam Hussein's son-in-law. She also sat in on the initial debriefing of the son-in-law, these sources say.


Reporter Judith Miller and Iraqi National Congress leader Ahmed Chalabi, at whose offices a relative of Saddam Hussein was taken into custody while she was present.
Since interrogating Iraqis was not the mission of the unit, these officials said, it became a "Judith Miller team," in the words of one officer close to the situation.

In April, Miller wrote a letter objecting to an Army commander's order to withdraw the unit, Mobile Exploitation Team Alpha, from the field. She said this would be a "waste" of time and suggested that she would write about it unfavorably in the Times. After Miller took up the matter with a two-star general, the pullback order was dropped.


*snip*


Quite the bossy little reporter, eh?

[TallahasseeGrannie]

35. Miller has a mole on her left cheek

but the lady in the voting photo does not.

[nicknameless]

34. That's what I posted in reply #11. Looks just like her!

Ninkasi thought so too. :D

[Lexingtonian]

14. I sorta like it....

Big overblown Iraqi election on which an American political demographic pins its last hope for an outcome it likes...followed by lack of delivery on anything promised...followed by the American political demographic giving up on the whole kit 'n' caboodle after about a month or two.

January 2005 elections, Independents.

December 2005...moderate Republicans?

I feel sorry for the average Iraqis, really. I can't see how this crap ends in anything other than a bad Shi'ite governing majority and a kind of collective agreement to have out the civil war the totalitarians on all sides have wanted.

[wixomblues]

15. "Big overblown election"

Let's not forget that this is a good thing. As one poster above said, this is a step in getting us out of there. There are a million ways to beat the Republicans and take the house. Wishing or projecting failure in Iraq is not one of them. And sorry, I'm not saying that YOU are wishing failure. It's probably a logical conclusion. I guess I just have HOPE that they will go well. Peace can happen if you want it, or something along those lines. The middle east is a scary place, Iran is denying the holocaust, and my girl can't drive to the store over there. Not that she spends much time there now. I live in Southeast Michigan, and there are a lot of people voting here, absentee ballot, who are citizens of Iraq. And there mood is optimistic, but they are not pro-bush. Some are, but not a disproportionate amount. The election is important, and will at least be crucial in establishing a pecking order and allotting control. So, while I don't agree with this administration, i am hoping for success in Iraq. And that is defined as a stable Iraq, and a withdrawal as soon as possible, within the constraints of moral responsibility. I'm not even sure what that is though. I feel we owe it to the people in Iraq to give them stability. And I'm not convinced that us leaving would do that, right now. Oh well. What I do know is that we need to get honest people back in the House, Senate, and eventually the white house. It's a new year soon, and we need a new congress.

Let's get rid of the Dicks in 06!

[Lexingtonian]

18. We shall see....

I wish I could be optimistic. But the parallels to Vietnam, which was essentially a civil war, and the recent conflicts that blew apart Yugoslavia strike me as too obvious. For a civil war you need two sides with a controlling group of willingly totalitarian leaders and an unresolved set of historical grievances. Those are in place in Iraq.

My solution, proposed quite long ago, is to create two or three 'safe haven' areas run/defended by Americans for women and children and old people along the Iraqi borders. (The two oil fields are actually well placed for such things, by curious coincidence.) Then American withdrawal takes place from central Iraq and all Sunni-Shia overlap areas to these safe havens. Then bad shit happens for a few months, but it settles all the scores. When one side has won, American forces under UN command and colors take control of the country. And then a weak constitutional government is instituted, and has a chance of being functional and surviving.

[AtomicKitten]

23. yabbut what about all those permanent bases the MSM never mentions?

Does anybody seriously think the oil boys are going to leave?

[FlemingsGhost]

24. See post #1

A true believer in "Democracy." How quaint.

:eyes:

[Bluebear]

32. "Grace Iaconne of the Chevy Chase Players poses....

....in this simulated photoshoot to demonstrate the new freedom in Iraq".....

[Javaman]

38. And this surprises us, why? n/t

[Hyernel]

39. I prefer the neocon circular firing squad!

Can we arrange one by Oct 2006?

Please?