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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:23 PM
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Carl Sagan's BS detector
http://www.carlsagan.com/revamp/carlsagan/baloney.html

Useful when arguing with those who choose to believe rather than know.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:27 PM
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1. Nice of you to repost this - read up, people
The whole book from which it's taken, The Demon Haunted World, is exceptionally good.

Peace.
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:37 PM
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5. Thanks - I saw
the last episode of Cosmos last night on the Science Channel - the last 15 minutes are one of the finest things in what was one of the best things ever done for television. For a free-thinker (as Sagan was) it has to be the most inspiring and beautiful exposition of our place in this enormous universe and why it is so important to keep it all from going dowh the crapper. That series should be required viewing in every high school in this country.

My, how things have deteriorated since that landmark show.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:45 PM
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8. Yes, I've been watching the updated version too.
I so miss Sagan and I wish he had done more of these science for the ordinary guy programs. It's too bad when the series first ran that many of his fellow scientists had nothing but scorn for him.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:46 PM
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9. Oops!
Edited on Wed Dec-14-05 04:53 PM by Cleita
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:49 PM
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10. Oops again!
Edited on Wed Dec-14-05 04:55 PM by Cleita
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:51 PM
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11. Ah yes, Who Speaks For Earth
You just reminded me that it's time for me to watch that series again.

So, double thanks.

Peace.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:30 PM
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2. I believe it was in "Stranger in a Strange Land"
that there were true witnesses. They could only speak the truth. I found myself wishing during the last election season that our TV's had their own B.S. detectors, like a little red light that would go on when the candidate was spouting bullshit.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:35 PM
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4. Great idea from that book
I believe they were called "Fair Witnesses". A person trained with photographic memory to work as an impartial witness for hire, and accepted by the courts.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:34 PM
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3. Oh where to begin?!?!
n/t
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:38 PM
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6. $170 will get you the DVD'd PBS Carl Sagan "Cosmos" Series
Edited on Wed Dec-14-05 04:39 PM by papau
http://www.carlsagan.com/revamp/cosmosstore/dvd/dvd.html
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 04:40 PM
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7. People should learn to question their own BS...
(belief system) ;)
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 06:57 PM
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12. Which reminds me, I've been meaning to ask

What happens when a completely resistible force meets a completely movable object?
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