What does this mean? Truly

[DemInDistress]

I just read a story about soldiers,who died in Iraq they were being shipped home (after Dover) in the belly of commercial jets like freight. I wanted to link the story but feel wary because of this...
Copyright 2004 by 10News.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Would I be in jeapordy if I were to link that story? BTW,it can be found at informationclearinghouse.

[tkmorris]

1. It's true and a solid story

I beliueve 10News refers to a local TV stations online news site. They were the reporters of the story.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

2. there are a few threads on this atrocity already...

just search for "freight"

:cry:

[RagingInMiami]

3. If you link it, it's not illegal

Because you're leading people to their site. You're not supposed to cut and paste it.

[DemInDistress]

8. Thank you Ragin..

I was concerned by the warnings. Linking is OK...Good to know,

[izzie]

4. The DOD is not telling the truth or is our Govt. about anything.

Nothing seems to be real any more if a GOP person or DOD tells us. Scary.

[KalicoKitty]

5. Family Upset Over Marine's Body Arriving As Freight

Excerpt:

John Holley and his wife, Stacey, were stunned when they found out the body of their only child, Matthew, who died in Iraq last month, would be arriving at Lindbergh Field as freight.

"When someone dies in combat, they need to give them due respect they deserve for (the) sacrifice they made," said John Holley.

http://www.10news.com/news/5504608/detail.html

What is sad is, this is not on MSM! It is disgraceful and so disrespectful, as these soldiers were fodder for Bush's lies, and this is the respect they get!

There is a video on that link.

[Ouabache]

6. at risk of sounding crass, how should they come, 1st class or coach?

aren't we all just travelling in the freight hold in Bu$hAmerika?

[proud2BlibKansan]

7. A flag draped over the coffin would be nice

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

9. What makes you think there is not a flag draped over the

coffin inside the crate?

I have seen that done.

[proud2BlibKansan]

11. Did you click on the link and look at that picture?

[TexasProgresive]

16. During Vietnam

when so many more were killed the coffins were accompanied by a guard. Several of my friends who were between duty assignment volunteered for this. But then we had more respect for the dead and did not treat them as freight.

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. Well here is a flag but

how reverent is it to use a fork lift as a pallbearer?

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

18. Ever been a pallbearer?

Those things are heavy.

[proud2BlibKansan]

20. I would imagine that's why

there are usually several pallbearers.

[leftofthedial]

10. they used to strap them into seats in the cabin,

but it bothered the other passengers.

WTF?

[bananas]

12. SAN DIEGO "Family Upset Over Marine's Body Arriving As Freight"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5566891&mesg_id=5566891

[awoke_in_2003]

13. I can maybe understand

that once the bodies are back on CONUS, further distribution to hometowns may require the use of commercial jets which would have to put the casket in the freight compartment. But couldn't they have at least one person in uniform to accompany the casket, see to its loading and off loading, and meet the family? This would surely help, and maybe let the family know that someone cares.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

19. Well, this is a huge black eye for the Marine Corps

who is not supposed to do things like this.

[Cleita]

14. If someone dies in a foreign country, they are usually shipped

back home in the cargo hold of commercial airplanes like freight. My question is why would the military be doing this when they have airplanes of their own to use?

[lonestarnot]

21. Precisely.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

22. because we don't have enough airplanes

to use for that, I would imagine.

I would say our cargo planes are pretty much 99%tasked with supply in theatre. Don't forget we have 20k troops in Afghanistan to support too, many in far flung places.

This is not an easy war on supply lines. As if one ever is, but this one is particularly bad.

[unhappycamper]

15. Here are the DU rules on copyrighted material:

From the detailed rules:

Copyright issues and Bandwidth Theft

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[DemInDistress]

23. Thanks for the lesson...

in copyrighted material. I don't want to steal anybody's stories so I thought of asking before posting.
So,its OK to link the story but not copy (word for word) copyrighted material? Is that correct?

[unhappycamper]

24. Yes, but you will elicit more responses by posting a tidbit of the story.

If you decide to post four paragraphs, use cut and paste to copy exactly. If the paragraphs are not contiguous, you should indicate your editing. For example:

paragraph one

paragraph two

<snip>

paragraph seven

<snip>

paragraph nine

Hope this helps.
uhc