Drug testing in schools

[Horse with no Name]

Do you all agree with drug testing in high school?
Our school is going to implement it next semester.
The only kids that will be eligible for drug testing are the ones in extracurricular activities and the ones that drive.
They "claim" it will be random, however, with the track record and history of this school, I highly doubt that.
Supposedly, the punishment if the kid gets pegged is 30-day suspension.
Personally, I think it is an invasion of privacy. But what do I know.:shrug:

[Conservativesux]

1. If you object to drug testing how about all the other who are tested.

...for jobs and employment?

Truck drivers, pilots, locomotive operators and other people are tested all the time, and at random too.

I dont want my kids hanging around druggies, myself.

[Horse with no Name]

3. I object to drug testing wherever it is used except where

public safety is a concern.
For example--I am a nurse. I have no problem being drug tested since I have a responsibility to patients.
I have a problem with students being drug tested when the only thing that they will do is tag them as a drug user and punish them, but not offer any help or rehabilitation.
If you have a problem with your kids hanging around with druggies, then maybe you should develop a better relationship with your child.
I know which kids in this school do drugs...and my daughter is friends with a couple of them.
I have told one in particular that I didn't have a problem with her hanging around my daughter or at my house but I didn't want her doing drugs around my daughter when they are together, and she promised not to and never has.

[seabeyond]

2. i would talk to principle and see what your option is to fight it

and state, sign that you never want it done to your child. private school had school policy, spanking. i told them they are not to ever lay hand on child. if either kid did anything to warrant spanking i would be the one. now i knew neither kid would, but made it clear, and even though he very much valued the spanking rule and his authority..... he allowed. have been other things like hep a shot and i found out legally how i could avoid getting for boys

i would absolutely look into this one. i would even consider pulling kids from. extracirricular is a different matter. driving is all kids. we wouldnt allow random drug testing on any of us cause we drive.

i am opposed

[Warpy]

4. Doing it without cause to anybody is a violation of the

fourth amendment. Of course, that's the amendment that has been totally trashed by the drug war and forefeiture laws. It's the first one we lost, and the others are following quickly.

The kids they should be testing are the ones who are NOT involved in activities or trying to get their driver's licenses. Those are probably the kids who are using.

This is just more illegal harassment of US citizens in the guise of the nanny state. Resist it if you can, but don't be too surprised if the school doesn't give a shit about constitutional rights.

[Swamp Rat]

5. Resist until the end...

I'd rather be expelled or fired for standing up for my rights. To hell with the rest of you willing to give up your (AND MY) rights!

Here are some Ben Franklin quotes for those of you afflicted with what I call cultural amnesia:

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty or safety...

Freedom is not a gift bestowed upon us by other men, but a right that belongs to us by the laws of God and nature.

This will be the best security for maintaining our liberties. A nation of well-informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins.

...it is a common observation here that our cause is the cause of all mankind, and that we are fighting for their liberty in defending our own.

Where liberty dwells, there is my country.

...a frequent recurrence to fundamental principles ...is absolutely necessary to preserve the blessings of liberty and keep a government free.

Without freedom of thought there can be no such thing as wisdom; and no such thing as public liberty, without freedom of speech.

Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.

When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

Sell not...liberty to purchase power.

In free governments, the rulers are the servants and the people their superiors and sovereigns.

Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.

I hope...that all mankind will at length, as they call themselves reasonable creatures, have reason and sense enough to settle their differences without cutting throats; for in my opinion there never was a good war or a bad peace.

Men will ultimately be governed by God or by tyrants.

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself."

[LostInAnomie]

6. Yeah sure, why not.

If they are going to do it though it should be mandatory for EVERY student, not just "randomly" picked students. I remember when I was playing high school sports we had random screenings, but some how the same kind of kids kept being "randomly" tested. These students tended to be minorities, or lower economic level students that dressed a little differently.

Once some of the rich kids and honor students start testing dirty we'll see how big of a problem drugs really are in schools.

[Hubert Flottz]

7. G H W Bush has owned stock in the drug testing business since

he was President and that, if you will recall, is about when the drug testing at work began.

[Robert Cooper]

8. Authoritarianism is good?

If so, perhaps we can have the cops come around to every home once a month to test everyone, just to be sure. Then we could have them search throughout the house to make sure nothing illegal is occurring. Why stop there? Let's install security cams in every room of the house, just to be sure no one is doing anything they shouldn't. We could hang "Big Brother is your friend" under each camera.

We should -all- be for a police state. The loss of liberty, freedom, and privacy are a small price to pay to be sure we keep the world safe for...er...for...er...democracy? After all, you can trust your government, can't you? You don't want criminals escaping justice do you? We know they're out there, all we need is your cooperation to find them. You're willing to help us, aren't you? if you're not guilty you have nothing to fear, right?

:sarcasm: liberally applied.

[JohnLocke]

9. "The right of the people to be secure in their persons..."

"...against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated."

[seaglass]

10. I have 2 kids in high school and I'm totally against it. Both

play sports for school but they have not implemented random drug testing. Drinking is a much bigger problem in our school system.

But reality is that the USSC has ruled that they can randomly drug test kids in school.

[mitchum]

11. But the PARASITES of the drug testing industry have to eat!

Check out who will get the contract to test the students on the taxpayers' dime. Follow the money.