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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 09:50 AM
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Tweety on Today talking about Bush's comeback in poll (40% approval)
It was disgusting watching Matt Lauer and Tweety on the Today Show this morning. They discussed the new CBS News poll which gives Bush a 40% approval rating--up five points--like it's some kind of amazing comeback. Tweety had the audacity to say he thinks it is because Bush is finally leveling with the American people about Iraq! and about the "robust economy." Not mentioned is that 53% disapprove of the chimp and that better than 50% think that Bush misled us into war.

Yeah, 40%--what a comeback! Clinton was over 60% at this point in his presidency and over 70% when he was impeached by the Republican congress.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 09:52 AM
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1. Tweety's virtual fellation of Bush is disgusting
Why doesn't he just join the GOP as a strategist.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 09:53 AM
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2. NBC is a pile SHIT!
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:00 AM
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5. Is there an echo in here?
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 09:55 AM
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3. "robust economy"
When nobody can afford to buy a house so the market is tanking and many, more than ever, cannot afford heating oil/gas. Screw you Tweety, you paid shill.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 09:58 AM
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4. Exactly. Let's see what happens when all thos poor employees
of auto manufacturing lose their jobs and the housing market cools as Tole Construction says it is not making houses right now with the gusto of the past. And mortgage rates are up so the real estate boom, which is driving the economy right now, is about to slow quite a bit.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:01 AM
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6. The bottom falls out of the economy in 2006
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:04 AM
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10. Yes it will.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:07 AM
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14. gees thanks a lot. I would rather bush have polls in the high 90's
then the bottom fall out of the ecomony.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:10 AM
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16. Unfortunately that's the only thing that will wake the sheeple
People dying doesn't phase them, but their pocketbooks will...
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:11 AM
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20. you're probably right, but damn man.. the bottom falling out now
would mean some pretty bad times for us and the world.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:11 AM
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17. The reality is the economy is going to slow down...
come next year.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:15 AM
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24. slow is one thing, shit it's been slow since bush was selected in
2000. the bottom falling out is biblical shit.. people will go fucking crazy if they can't have their starbucks, and see american idol.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:01 AM
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7. Like that "ownership society" BS
That pissed me off because it's blatant empty rhetoric. When Bush isn't screwing up he just talks and talks and talks and says nothing of substance or takes any action whatsoever.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:05 AM
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11. It helps if you can actually afford to "own" anything... like maybe a job?
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:08 AM
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15. Nobody I know has any damned money
Everybody is tightening their belts. "Robust economy", my ass.
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:06 AM
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12. "robust economy" that created 144,000 low-paying service jobs
Edited on Fri Dec-09-05 10:06 AM by hadrons
but Tweety's GE stock is up though
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:11 AM
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18. Isn't all this "robust" talk going to backfire?
If, like most Americans, you're out here struggling...getting higher and higher heating bills, paying more out of your own pocket for fewer benefits, and paying even more for college tuition, are you just going to get mad as hell about all this "robust" talk?
I think even the middle class freepers are going to wake up and realize the fatcats have played them for fools.
But, then, so many of those deluded freepers are still thinking that they're going to get into the "club". That top 1%. They'll go to their graves, deeply in debt, still thinking that someday...someday...they'll be accepted by all those rich guys they want so desperately to be.
Never gonna happen.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:03 AM
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8. So you have 2 polls, each with a 3 MOE
and you observe a 5 % improvement. It is more likely than not that there has been some improvement, but it may not be even as big as they are making it out to be. The last approval rating could have been 32% to 38% and the current one between 37% to 43%.

The main topic when the earlier approval was taken was the Libby indictment and continuing chaos in Iraq.
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thefloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:03 AM
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9. Will be interesting to see how long that lasts
Heating costs will skyrocket matter of fact already started today. Natural Gas spiked. Also, GM, Ford, Delphi layoffs will cause problems.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:07 AM
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13. Right, it's bitter cold already. When people get their first
big eye opening natural gas heating bill, Bush will go into freefall!
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:11 AM
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19. Someone should point out that Bush's low approval rating is
why he had a pollster write the plan for victory in Iraq. Bush told the pollster (Peter D. Feaver) to write what the public wanted to hear and then Bush started saying it over and over. Democrats really should be all over this. If a democrat did something similar, the republicans would harp on it constantly for years and years.
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:15 AM
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23. It will eventually backfire big time, snippy.
Sooner or later virtually everybody (not just people who follow politics or even read the newspaper) will realize, "Just what kind of upside-down-world are these lunatics talking about?"
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:21 AM
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28. I agree. But I would like to see the democrats take advantage
of situations which would make it happen sooner rather than later. The pollster's involvement in Bush's "plan for victory" seems like a gift to democrats but I hear virtually nothing about it.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:12 AM
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21. We Knew This Was Gonna Happen...Dead Cat Bounce
Face it...if it were a Democrat who bounced up 5 points, we'd be doing the happy dance, too. This is part of the game...and if anyone is a boooosh-licker...it's Tweety. The funny thing is the right wing thinks he's one of us...so his opinions are discredited by both sides.

Of course, you NEVER hear the corporate media mention that at one time booosh had a 90% approval rating (I'm very proud to have been one of the 10%) or that this is the first up trend in nearly 9 months (starting after Schaivo). The only reason they didn't stay low is this asshat didn't have a major screw-up...no Katrina or Abu Grahb or Harriet Miers to add some extra negatives to his numbers.

So what we're seeing is the latest "ceiling"...this is the best this fukstik can expect as a popularity. Any more bad news or a major screw-up and mid 30's is assured, low 30's are very possible and 20's aren't outside a very cold winter with high fuel prices and more bad Iraq news.

You're sure not hearing Tweety talk about numbers over 50% are we? Or that he's predicting that those numbers will happen. The best spin I hear is that "it's still a long way til the elections", "he's not running again, so it doesn't matter"...and this "preznit isn't poll diven (:puke:) (coughbullshitcough).
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:13 AM
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22. Gee I'm sorry I missed that...
...Tweety might have expanded more on Bush's "sunny nobility".:sarcasm: :puke:
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:17 AM
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25. Don't most of these polls have a variance factor of ..
plus or minus 4%? Seems to me that when you go from 37% to 40% you haven't moved up or down you've only gotten a different result within the normal range variance.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:17 AM
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26. Isn't Matthews brother running for office as an (R)?
Heard that yesterday...

Anyway, I personally think that Matthews and Lauer are part of that upper echelon of the Crock News (well paid and insidiously insulated from the Average Joe). Everytime he returns from a big family gathering, he returns with a perspective much different than his usual Three Cheers for Bush. Then, he has a line up of Rove approved guests and VOILA!!! Three Cheers for Bush!

I don't even watch Lauer. Frankly, I've had it with being made to feel I'm so "far out of the mainstream" because these supposed 'journalists' get a six figure salary with mic and camera to brown nose Cons. And I refuse to be a tally in their viewership.
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:21 AM
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27. They mark Bush on a curve.
It's all about the "economy". No one is paying close attention to Bush's plans for Iraq. There isn't much there. The media claimed big improvements in the economy and they declared it far a wide. Gas prices went down, the markets were looking good and the job numbers were better than expected. (Although they are lower than they were last year at this time and the mention of full or part-time. temporary or permanent employment isn't stated) Seeing $$$ gets certain groups of people real excited. To hell with everything else, money is the only thing that matters.
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