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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 12:31 AM
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A Dean Guy on Clark Bashing
Let's face it the guy has a LOT of the "it " factor. I like him. But campaigns are freaky-deeky thigs. If this whole thing was easy to figure out, John Kerry would be unstoppable. So would Edwards. Even Dennis Kucinich. Patriots all, democrats all, campaigners all. WHAT is so different about Wesley Clark?

Easy, dudes. Its like Howard Dean. It's the "X" factor. Something: we don't know what, we don't know how, something resonates.

So what happens to leaders in any political gambit?

They get attacked. Long. Hard. Often. It's trial by fire, and they had better be damn prepared to hold their own against this onslaught, else we find that they don't have what stuff it takes to be president, a job no one in their right mind would want, yet everybody covets.

I hope he makes it through, I pull for him while doing for my own guy, because this is the process. I ilke him, and I think a lot of his people would be in my campaign if he weren't there.....but there he is.

So, whail away detractors, we'll just see how your attacks resonate, be it waffling charges, be it non specific loayalty charges,and whatever else the paid moles feed us to devour each other.

Remember what is at stake, no matter what. No matter who. It is nothing less than the future of our country and we better damn well recognize THAT and realize that all this internecine shit is realy really reductable,and that at heart we are all still democrats. That we all fondly wish the same thing.

ANYBODY BUT BUSH, BABY!!!
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 12:35 AM
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1. There's something else about this that's bigger -- it's the media and the
Republicans trying to pick the Democratic nominee.

Clark might turn out not to be that great, but we don't know the first thing about him yet because the media is totally controlling perception of him.

You were in California for the Arnold onslaught. It's no differnt.

Don't think they won't do the same with Dean if he gets nominated.

You can talk about "freeky-deekyness," but you know this is something much more calculated, and it doesn't do any democrat any good not to confront this right now and do what you can to take control of the Democratic nominating process back from the media right now.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 12:40 AM
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3. while the media have been tough on him
they didn't cause his first debate performance where he repeatedly refused to give specific answers. They also didn't cause him to shake up his campaign so fast. It is hard to figure Clark out at this point. I think that way too many people watch people like Clinton and think "this politics stuff is easy". Clark is figuring out now that it isn't all that easy. I hope he does get better press, though before he announced he got pretty good press, but he also needs to fix his problems.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 12:38 AM
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2. Yeah Capn
Everybody gets beat on but it's all for the best, 'cause we want our best up against * in 2004!

BTW bashing gets a bad name here on DU. Actually it's fair criticism that gets labeled as 'bashing'. If you're gonna make stuff up or be insulting, that's something else. But let's get it out now before the GOP starts at it.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-19-03 12:44 AM
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4. Dean definitely has the "it" factor Cap. n/t
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