why they HATE Jimmy Carter.

[Hamlette]

I worked with a freeper who hated Carter. When I asked why she got irrational (got?) and screamed about him being a traitor and how he should be shot. I didn't understand it. I was browsing through reviews of Carter's recent book and saw these two reviews:

To hear Carter pontificate about moral values is irritating to the extreme. Here we have a lecture from the very man who brought us the Islamic revolution and betrayed the Shah of Iran -- who was a firm ally of America. This is the man who enabled the creation of the fundamentalist Islamic state which is now bent on America's destruction. Carter displays a complete lack of common sense as he criticizes a sitting American president both publicly and in his untimely book. This man is a menace to every American. If Carter was still president we would all be praising Allah.

and this one

Having a liberal lecture America on what our values are is really quite a laughable notion. Abortion on demand, pornography in libraries, the removal of God from society, the idea that courts, rather than voters, are better able to decide the great moral questions of our time, are some of the values the left in this nation holds dear. Hopefully, Carter is right and these are endangered values.
Jimmy Carter should stick to something he's good at, like building houses.


I don't think we can communicate with people who believe this garbage. What are they talking about with the betrayal of the Shah? Praising Allah?

These people are beyond our reach but is there something we can do/say to stop them from spreading this type of disinformation? (These two reviews were found "unhelpful" by something like a 80 to 90% of the readers. That was a relief.)

[CrazyOrangeCat]

1. My dad sat next to him on a plane . . .

. . . in '74, right before Carter started campaigning. Has always maintained that he was the most intelligent, humble, decent man who ever tried to be a politician.

[leftofthedial]

2. and who ever stopped being a politician

[CrazyOrangeCat]

5. yeah, he's accomplished more . . .

. . . in the past twenty-five years for the good of the average person than neocons will ever be able to grasp.

[leftofthedial]

8. the neocons, the riligiously insane right and what's left of the repuke

party are corrupt and foul beyond belief.

Carter is the opposite of them, so they hate him.

[FreedomAngel82]

7. Aw how neat!!

And what really gets me is how violent these so-called religious people are. Jesus wasn't violent like that! It always baffles me. *sigh* I love Carter too. My grandmother told me that Carter was always her favorite. My grandfather though always loved FDR. And what's great about Carter is he's so active at his age and his brain is smart as a whip. I'm reading his book now when I have time and it's really good so far.

[Ladyhawk]

16. I saw him on the Daily Show and agree with you.

He hasn't lost a step when it comes to intelligence. He has the fundamentalists pegged. Maybe deep down they know it and that's why they hate him so much. :(

[Viva_La_Revolution]

3. I just read it....

and I completely missed the 'pornography in the library' part.

did they reference a page number?

:rofl:

[FreedomAngel82]

9. LOL

Oh funny. :P I know my Bible like the back of my hand(s) and there is some good stuff in the Bible as well. ;)

[Ladyhawk]

17. Song of Solomon is porn.

4:16 Awake, O north wind and come thou south. Blow upon my garden that the spices may flow out. Let my beloved come into his garden and eat his pleasant fruit.


Gee, I wonder what that means?

[Kurovski]

19. So that's where the term "fruity" originated.

They skipped over that part when I attended Our Lady Gate Of Heaven.

That dang bible was responsible for Carter's "lusting in his heart".

[Dogmudgeon]

4. Tribal Culture War

That's why Clinton was able to "triangulate" so well -- and why it led the Right to hate him, too. When Clinton signed the Republican bill to screw over the poor, he was able to demolish the old "Democrats-are-Socialists" line with the economic conservative voters back home. Of course, it made our own Trotskyites go ballistic, but it cost the Right millions of economic-issue voters; in 2000, Bush only had his beer-hall and churchman appeal to depend on -- as well as the SCOTUS inherited from Poppy and the Gipper.

Then, Clinton introduced four (I think it was four) bills to effectively gut the destruction of the social safety net, so the Republican "Contract On America" bunch had to soil themselves again in public to defeat them. Clinton was able to make every move those clowns made look like pratfalls.

Why do you think they jumped on a small point of law to initiate impeachment proceedings? But this isn't about the Big Dog -- it's about the forces that the Big Dog was able to manipulate. And the modern Republicans just can't manipulate those forces to save their worthless, fecuous, putrebund hides.

It's a tribalistic culture war, and a master wheeler-and-dealer like Clinton was able to turn it on its head. Carter, on the other hand, was the original Straight Shooter; they were able to go with the flow of hating him. Even the late-'70s hipsters hated Carter, possibly because he didn't legalize grass (and Joe Califano did turn out to be a Maximum Prig with his anti-drug crusade), but they usually complained that he was a Born-Again Christian. Little did they see how bad it would get in about three decades.

Within a decade, I am convinced that the Culture War will look as stupid as a riot in an European soccer stadium, and the remnants of the Republican Party will want to pretend that 1976-2008 never happened. It has been an utterly fuct period of American political history, during a period of world history where more American attention toward environmental and energy issues (and making nice with the non-militant Islamic world) could have saved a whole lot of grief, capital, and lives.

--p!
(Fecuous? Putrebund? Yes, I am very impressed with myself for using those nasty-ass words.) :)

[CrazyOrangeCat]

10. succinctly put . . . gonna need to look up putrebund, though.

[Dogmudgeon]

14. Uh ... you can't ...

I coined that sucka ab ovo. I invented it to mean "bound to rot and stink". (Latin putrescere, "to putrefy", and -bund, "inclined toward" or connoting inevitability, cf "bind".)

But you can look up ab ovo.

:evilgrin:

--p!

[Peter Frank]

15. (You have way to much time on your hands...)

I've often thought of the slimy dealings in politics as "squid pro quo." ;)

[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

22. Profound neologism, friend.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

24. like moribund, but smellier . . . I get it!

[C_U_L8R]

6. They hate Carter because he is a good man

as well, he is a smart man, an honest man
and most likely more christian than any of these
pompous reich wing fundy posers.

[SheilaT]

11. Jimmy Carter is a man

who truly lives by his values. And they are quite conservative ones. He does not believe in abortion on demand. Doesn't believe in abortion at all, but has this strange idea that the law of the land should be upheld.

While I am not myself a "Christian", although I have strong spiritual beliefs, Jimmy Carter is one Christian whom I respect tremendously.

He actually did something about working for peace in the Middle East, brought us the Camp David accords. He was wrongly blamed for the high inflation of the 1970's. For that we can blame Dick Nixon and the wage and price control earlier in the decade. And he's a man who has not cashed in on having been president, but actually tries to help people by providing housing for poor people. Don't see any other former presidents doing anything that worthwhile.

[Peter Frank]

12. Don't forget who's doing the thinking for these people...

I've heard Rush, Hannity, Boortz et al work themselves into a rabid froth condemning Carter and every other national figure who danes to trespass upon the sacred ground of unquestioning obedience to the radical party line.

...2-3 hours daily of brainwashing rant per host -- not to mention the local bandwagoneers; they all seem to get their talking points from the same source.

[bluedeminredstate]

13. If they can't recognize a true Christian

how do they expect to find Jeebus during the rapture?
This kind of thinking is so far out of reality that it's not worth debating.
:crazy:

[alittlelark]

18. My best friend is Persian, she would be all over that...

Her cousin is married to the Shah in exile and her family used to own 1/5 of Iran. She saw the Shahs betrayal firsthand, as she was sent to America, by her father w/ a lot of $$$$$. He knew she would not make it in a theocratic state. The children of rich Iranians were sent across the globe.

[DiverDave]

20. I wonder why the deal raygun made with

the Iranians to release the hostages when he was sworn in is not ever commented on.
Oh, never mind, ronnie was a saint...:eyes:

[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

21. Wow. It's amazing how deluded people can be.

I've always seen a hatred of Carter on the far-right that always went beyond the "dcent guy but lousy President" sentiments that many people have about Carter. The right HATES Jimmy Carter. These lies must be a reflection of that.

[WernhamHogg]

23. I am not a Christian, but I believe that

they hate Carter because he is TRULY religious.

Rather than sitting on a high horse judging others like the so-called "Christians" in the Repug party like to do, Carter is actually HELPING others.

[G_j]

28. exposing the hypocrisy

by at least trying to follow the teachings of Jesus?
They would have have REALLY hated Jesus.

[Skittles]

25. because Jimmy Carter is a truly decent human being

it just does not compute in the tiny freeper brain

[converted_democrat]

26. Oh, how I wish Jimmy was still young enough to run. Hell, I'd vote for him

today if he ran. Run him as pres, and run Gore for vice, and then switch their positions in 2012. Yea, I know it could never happen, but a girl can dream, right?

[Toots]

27. They have to have something/someone to hate or they are not complete

Hatred is their mainstay. It is what they have been raised to do. They know no other way of being....