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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:13 PM
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thank you Europe
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 02:02 PM by G_j
for forcing Condi to lie here ass off over and over again!
(about torture)

You don't believe her. That is smart!
:applause: :thumbsup:

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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:39 PM
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1. Thanks... BUT most governments knew and went along with it.
What the mighty USA want the mighty USA gets... Only now when members of the European parliament and the (mainly leftist) opposition in some countries is raising a stink there is finally open talk about it. But, yes, it is now publicly known over here that Rice is lying :)

There is an article (in English) about the response here in Germany on Spiegel online:
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,389057,00.html

snip
"Condoleezza Rice gave the best example of this by adopting what almost seemed like a blackmailing tone in saying that whoever discloses the work of their intelligence services would have to live with a higher threat of terror," stated an editorial in the liberal daily Süddeutsche Zeitung. "Rice came to Germany to begin a new era. She has resoundingly failed to do so."

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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:50 PM
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2. I suppose one factor may be
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 01:50 PM by G_j
that the voice of the lefties is at least not completely censored by the media in Europe. Am I correct in this?

Of course, there are plenty of people who know she is lying here also.
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:17 PM
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3. Not completely censured, no... but increasingly hard to hear.
The main problem is press concentration, more and more publishing houses not having any money left.

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