Who is the worst Traitor in American History?

[ck4829]

A. Oliver North

B. Karl Rove

C. Other

[mattclearing]

1. Howard Dean. He should be 'hung'!!!

:D

[Nitrogenica]

4. Perhaps he is "hung".

[havocmom]

14. He is! He must have the biggest ones in the party!

:evilgrin:

[SteppingRazor]

2. How bout Lee Harvey Oswald?

Benedict Arnold?

Jefferson Davis?

Julius Rosenberg?

[ck4829]

5. That's what 'Other' is for

:D

[SteppingRazor]

10. Yeah, I know... just pointing out some likely "others"...

I mean, outing a CIA agent is pretty bad. Getting a couple hundred of your fellow Marines killed because you were selling weapons to their enemies -- even worse.

But assassinating the president? Probably worse than that.
Selling the A Bomb to a communist dictatorship? Also very bad.
Oh, and then there's splintering the country and becoming head of the new rebel nation state -- yeah, as far as traitors go, I guess I gotta give Jefferson Davis the prize. How can it possibly get more traitorous than that?

[mattclearing]

11. What did Lee Harvey Oswald do?

And don't give me any of that magic bullet stuff. :)

I'd put John Wilkes Booth up first.

Nixon's a good second.

[maveric]

31. How about the guys LH Oswald worked for?

[Squatch]

3. Benedict Arnold.

I'm still pissed off about nearly losing West Point to the Brits.

[ticapnews]

20. The irony is

if Arnold had been killed when wounded at Bemis Heights he would be one of America's greatest heroes. He survived, took command of Philadelphia, met Peggy Shippen and the rest is history...

His treason ranks up there with Jefferson Davis.

As much as I dislike them, and do consider them traitors, Rove and North are small fries compared to the likes of Arnold, Davis and Lee.

[AntiCoup2K4]

6. Prescott Bush

Fucking piece of shit made millions from funding HITLER and yet his drug dealing son and terrorist chimp grandson are treated like royalty.

[TomInTib]

18. Got my vote. And isn't one son President of the US-Chinese

Chamber of Commerce?

Talk about wrecking our economy and costing jobs.

[blm]

7. Everyone who kept the BCCI books closed and kept the BFEE in power.

.

[MsFlorida]

8. C. Other - Joe Lieberman

maybe he was really a gop plant during the 2000 selection

[Oceansaway]

9. Dubya....

[librechik]

24. yeah, only a TRAITOR would accept the presidency

after losing the popular vote--let alone FIGHT AGAINST A FULL COUNT while CLAIMING there was no reason to recount because we had "counted and counted."

What a disgusting evil jerkoff--from Dec 12 2000 I have had NO RESPECT for that thief. He is the biggest traitor ever because he is the so-called President and he used his office to betray us over and over again--ignored the PDBs, rushing to war, lying to protect the leaker in his government, telling Bandar our war plans, blowing the cover on Al Qaeda investigations before they are complete just to boost his ratings....ON and ON and ON!!!

He is the WORST AMERICAN EVER!!!


next to Cheney.

[Initech]

12. My vote - Pat Robertson

He supports murerous dictators, calls for the assassination of people who dont agree with him, all while keeping the masses docile and ignorant thanks to his weird, sick, psychotic version of "Christianity" he practices. Oh, not to mention he makes millions of dollars every year and pays almost no taxes.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

13. There was a bunch of folks down south who killed a lof of Americans.

They were called Confederates. And, resumed power 12 years after being defeated. Most were never brought to justice.

[ticapnews]

22. And when talking about that war, some of their great-grandsons say

"Who says it's over?"

A couple of weeks after the 2004 election I was at a gathering with our Congressman and he joked that considering the electoral map, maybe it was time to rethink Lincoln's wisdom in fighting a war to get the South back...

[noonwitch]

15. Ronald Reagan

Oliver North was just taking orders from Reagan's administration. It was the higher-ups' idea to arm our enemy in order to fund the drug-dealing and nun-killing contras.

[DeaconBlues]

16. Robert E. Lee

To anyone who glorifies the Old South - SUCK ON IT!

[SkiGuy]

17. C. other Cheney

[GreenArrow]

19. whichever Supreme Court it was

that created Corporate Personhood.

[StellaBlue]

28. ooooh good one n/t

[bigmonkey]

36. Here's the weird thing.

Somebody correct me if I've got elements messed up here, but I wish as many people as possible knew this. Thom Hartmann went down to D.C. to look up the decision in question, presumably as a preliminary to preparing to argue that it should be overturned. He ran into a problem: there was no Supreme Court ruling that gave person-hood to corporations. There was a _summary_ of the Santa Clara decision which listed entities that had person-hood, and those that didn't. (It's important to emphasize that summaries have no legal force.) The only two that did have it, in a list in the summary, were human persons and corporations. But here's the rub: the summary was variant from the arguments. That is to say, the question of corporate person-hood was never discussed that day, but the secretary, an old Railroad man (the 19th century predecessor of our Oil men) _asserted_ corporate person-hood in that no-legal-force summary he made.

You might think that this is subject to interpretation, but Hartmann made another discovery. He found a note, written in the hand of the Chief Justice at the time, that reiterated that no such legal conclusion or assertion of corporate person-hood had occurred in their discussions that day. So, it was mere arrogation of power by a corporate shill, in other words.

Since that day, however, the Santa Clara "decision" has been cited many times, and so a precedent of corporate person-hood has been established. My question is, how can a decision that was never made have legal force? My other question is, contrariwise, how do you argue against a decision that was never made?

[yurbud]

21. Other Bush/Cheney. When public connects Sibel Edmunds & 9/11...

and the other evidence that is the public domain, Bush and Cheney will win by a country mile, just as they already do for the worst administration in American history.

When you look at all the evidence, it's not hard to see how a few well-placed agent provocateurs could steer the genuine nuts toward doing something like 9/11 right when the neocons and big oil needed it most.

[bigmonkey]

23. The fugitive criminal John D. Rockefeller.

He gelled this corporate influence era, against the express intent of Jefferson and Madison. Bribed the government of New Jersey into making his crimes legal.

[FiveGoodMen]

25. The Southern Baptist Convention

[StellaBlue]

26. GEORGE FUCKING W BUSH

[Loonman]

27. Another vote for Prescott Bush

Nazi lover, Hitler fan.

[Toots]

29. The men in the conspiracy to kill JFK, RFK, and MLK

I am convinced they are one and the same...

[graywarrior]

30. Katherine Harris

[Vidar]

32. shrub

[Captain Hilts]

33. Robert E. Lee nt.

[onager]

34. Henry Kissinger

Author of the original "October Surprise." He leaked the proceedings of the Paris Peace Talks in October 1968, infuriating all parties and ensuring the collapse of the talks. That virtually ensured the election of Crookback Dick (Nixon), though the election was one of the closest in American history.

At least until 2000.

Then there was Kissinger's whole cockeyed theory of "the political axis," which he enjoyed using to insult diplomats from South America and other swarthy parts of the world. You may be amazed to learn this, since you and I are just ignorant proles, but the "historical axis of power" runs from Moscow thru Paris, London, Berlin and Washington DC. Or something like that.

Kissinger spouted this nonsense while he was enthusiastically planning the overthrow and eventual murder of Salvador Allende in Chile. Among others. ("I see no reason why we should allow a country to go Communist just because of the irresponsibilty of its citizens." He was talking about the election of Allende.)

Is it any wonder $hrub tried to jam this walking turd into the leadership of the 9/11 investigating committee?

This jerk should have been subjected to a Nuremberg-style trial back around 1971. At the very least, that might have discouraged other incompetent right-wing academics like Condi Rice from following in his gory footsteps.

[WI_DEM]

35. Many many traitors in our history

hard to pin one down as the worse.