Who is dividing the Democratic Party more : Lieberman or Dean?

[kentuck]

Bush praises Lieberman because he agrees with his ill-conceived war on terror. He disses Dean because Dean says the war cannot be won and contradicts Bush's claims of a complete victory. The Repubs talk about Lieberman in glowing terms on right-wing radio and shows like Hannity and Limbaugh. Dean is ostracized by the same shows and the Washington Post says he is dividing the Party. Who is most divisive for the Democratic Party: Lieberman or Dean?

[Loonman]

1. Lieberman

Dean is saying what needs to be said, but some Democrats prefer to kiss Bush's ass.

[LincolnMcGrath]

2. Joe

Hands down.

[Oceansaway]

3. Joe

[ananda]

4. Lieberman

Lieberman is so bad for Dems because he's not really a Dem at all. Hillary is becoming that way too. They both suck.

Dean is great!

[marmar]

5. Lieberman is doing the bidding of the Republican Party...

He's gone all Zell Miller on us.

[napi21]

6. Lieberman!

Much the same as McCain divides the Pubs. Both guys are detested by a segment of their own Party.

[efhmc]

7. Hmm, bush like lieb, bush no like dean. Me like Dean.

Of course, that neocon lieb is the more divisive person.

[wtmusic]

12. Me like what you say! Me no like Bush too!

Me like Dean! :silly:

[Cha]

19. You're funny, in a good way :)

lieberman is acting like a crazed person on bush's war on Iraq.

And causing "The Sleeping Bear" to awaken..

http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2005/12/the_sleeping_be.html

[Loonman]

8. There is no party split

It's just Joe, Zell Miller and fucking Hillary.

[wtmusic]

9. Depends on whose side you're on

S'all good...now we have a losing side, and a winning side. Time to choose, folks.

[Pam-Moby]

10. Lieberman and he should be ashamed of himself.

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. LIEBERMAN!

They need to isolate that man and keep him MUGGED. He IS NOT helping our cause...whatever the hell that is. Pelosi and Murtha say pull out in 6 months. Kerry and the Senate Dems say stay put until you have a plan. Then Lieberman is a Bushite saying "stay the course" for g-d only knows how long. :shrug: I just wish ALL THE DEMOCTRATS WOULD GET ON THE SAME PAGE, SEND OUT THE SAME MESSAGE AND SPEAK WITH ONE VOICE. That hasn't been happening and it makes the party look really, really bad and gives the RWers talking points about how we can't agree on the Iraq invasion.

[DefenseLawyer]

25. Is Lieberman getting party money

at this point? Does he even need it? I don't understand how a guy like him gets the backing of the party. It is one thing to be independent minded, and even conservative. It is quite another to go out of your way to attack your own party. Seems to me that if he thinks the republicans have it all figured out he would save us all the trouble and become one.

[Justice Is Comin]

34. .

:popcorn:

[asjr]

13. I am so tired of the media telling us that the Democratic

party is in disarray. When any Dem speaks his or her mind they point out we are in disarray. That is pure BS and shows the bias the media have. Lieberman will regret his stance regarding the president's actions. I think he will try for another run at the presidency and is positioning himself as someone who will be "bipartisan." He needs to keep his mouth shut. I have no respect for him whatsoever.

[Norquist Nemesis]

24. I think Joe's focus committee will tell him he needs

to join the GOP if he has any hope of having a successful run at the GOP. He wouldn't win there either, but it's his best shot the way he's going.

[OzarkDem]

14. Neither - the party is pretty united

Nice try, though.

[SkiGuy]

Agree

The press is dividing them

[kentuck]

22. The Party is not united.

But if you keep saying it over and over.....then perhaps...

But Liberman does not help by joining and holding hands with the Bush crowd, imo.

[OzarkDem]

26. Why are you repeating Repub talking points?

I've been active in my party for more than a decade and I've never seen people more united and motivated.

Strange that you see it the same way Republicans do.

[in_cog_ni_to]

31. OK. Look at the House. Look at the Senate. Neither are saying the same

thing. If that's not divided, I don't know what is. Then, throw Lieberman into the mix and it's even worse. This party is NOT united. We have the "Sensible Center" DLC wanting to kiss repuke ass, then we have the DNC and Dean speaking for the Progressive/Liberal/"wacko Left"/far left of the party. We are anything but united. Buy signing on to the cabal's illegal invasion, the Dems have put themselves in a box and are trying to get out. NONE of them can agree on how exactly to do that. It's pathetic.

[kentuck]

32. You're the one that sounds like Dick Cheney...

Yes, we have never been more united...Uh-huh...At least get your head out of the sand and face reality.

[BeachBuckeye]

15. Dean is a Democrat. Lieberman is not. eom

[Mutley]

16. The Leibster.

Dean is just getting the truth out there. If the DINOs don't like it, oh well.

[stray cat]

17. I think both men are doing what they believe

and like our leaders the Americans including dems and independents are also badly split. When no solution is a good solution maybe there is no perfect consensus.

[Arkana]

18. Lieberman.

He continues to support Turdboy's penis enlargement...er, war. That's divisive enough for me. The fucker carries water for them every chance he gets.

[AntiCoup2K4]

20. Lieberman.

But it can't all be blamed on Holy Joe. He's definitely one of the DLC's worst examples, but he's got plenty of company from those cancerous bastard leeches when it comes to dividing the party.

[Norquist Nemesis]

21. Neither

Leiberman's DINO and no one is signing up to be a Republican because Dean is head of the DNC.

The GOP holds up Lieberman knowing it's going to get a lot of Democrats pissed off...at Lieberman. It doesn't convince a single Democrat to jump on Bush's bandwagon just because Joe Lieberman asks Bush how high he should jump.

As far as Dean, some agree and some disagree. I haven't heard anyone say they're leaving the party because Dean made some comments that Bush doesn't like.

[havocmom]

30. BINGO

Show Norquist Nemesis the prizes!

[sandnsea]

37. WE are

When we let them divert attention from Bush with nonsensical stuff that doesn't really amount to a hill of beans. We need to stop repeating all of this garbage and get back to phased drawdown from Iraq. Demand Benchmarks and Target Dates Now. Everything else is just noise and that's exactly what THEY want.

[Perky]

23. LIeberrman obviously but diversity of opinion is probably a good thing

In that in inoculates us from being the party of "peace, love and granola".

The damage joe is doing is minimal . certainly no more tha Inhofe's comments.

[porphyrian]

27. Neither. The Party isn't dividing.

It just seems that some registered Democrats prefer republican policy to our own. They should probably join the party that better suits their sensibilities rather than distract us with their bullshit.

[sinkingfeeling]

28. Joe.

[Joe Chi Minh]

29. Lieberman's just the kind of guy you'd want to lead you

over the top, isn't he? "I came, I saw, I concurred...". (Wish the witticism about concurring was mine. Saw it in a letter to a paper today, directed at Blair in Europe).

[ladjf]

33. Lieberman isn't dividing the Democratic Party because no one

agrees with him.

[FreedomAngel82]

35. Lieberman

Dean is actually doing things to help the party.

[depakid]

36. Lieberman and other like him

make the Dems look pathetic- and because they vote with the far right so often, they've also insured that the Dems have been irrelevant in national politics.

Faster the party gets rid of its DINO's- or starts putting together a little discipline, the faster they'll gain back some relevancy. Won't happen until then.

[Pithy Cherub]

38. Lieberman has jumped the shark to Loserman

gaining joementum in a single bound...:crazy:

[Protagoras]

39. Lieberman

Dean is now speaking for about 80% of the American public who are thinking "WTF is going on in IRAQ?"

Lieberman just needs to slap on the elephant and move over so he can sink with the Bush Boat.

[Walt Starr]

40. Joementum n/t