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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:26 PM
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What brings people to support the GOP?
A. The talk about banning abortion and fightin' for the Pre-Born (No mention of the POST-Born though)

B. The idea of going back to the days when women couldn't vote and certain folks weren't allowed on the Golf Course

C. The idea that we should follow the teachings of the Bible and the interpretation of the Bible which CLEARLY says that every Fetus should be equipped with an Assault Rifle

D. Tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts

E. Other
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:28 PM
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1. E. Other:
Anger, fear, desperation
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:30 PM
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2. GUNS GOD & GAYS, but mostly
just gays gets them going.
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BobBoudelangFan69 Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:30 PM
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3. Greed, Graft and Grief
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:31 PM
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4. Money and greed
I know many Republicans, good people, who have left their party because it has left them and their ideals. They don't cotton to the concept of helping only the rich.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:31 PM
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5. Money, money, money, and more money
The desire to acquire money, to keep money, to not give money to any less fortunate, to have "stuff," to have better "stuff" than one's neighbors, to not let poor folk have any good "stuff"--it is how they define themselves, with their things, the services provided to them by forelock tugging serfs, their lives of ease, and their perception of their place in the pecking order of life.

The irony is, they think they can cheat death by having more money and stuff than the other guy. It doesn't work. No matter how much money ya make, sooner or later, yer gonna DIE! And ya can't take that money, or that stuff, wit' ya!!!!
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:46 PM
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13. Not true
There is a religion out there that tells these people not only can they buy them a place in heaven but they can drive their caddies and Beemers right to the gates, with all of their stuff in tow.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:50 PM
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15. That is just what they tell themselves to keep the Boogeyman of Conscience
at bay. They KNOW in their hearts it isn't true, because if they really believed it, they'd be kinder folk, figuring that if life really IS eternal, and they could take it with them, and indeed, get more on the other side, they would not be in such a hurry to acquire things in this life.

Instead, they'd spend more time working those Commandments here on earth, and modeling their lives after that guy who got nailed into those two pieces of wood.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 04:15 PM
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24. Only Reason Why There Are Log Cabin Republicans (n/t)
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:33 PM
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6. Some people fall for the lies
and vote against their own interests. Why would a blue collar worker vote Republican? he buys the crap about the Democrats wanting to take his gun away and also feels the Democrats go out of their way to help people who don't work ("lazy bums" he might call 'em). If he is white he might think that white men are having their rights/freedoms taken away in favor of women and minorities.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:34 PM
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7. You know actually trying to understand the other side
would be wrong. Rather just piss on them. If they aren't smart enough to be liberals they can all go to hell!

Now if we can just get those useless morons to vote for us.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:34 PM
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8. Republican supporters fall into 7 main categories.
Edited on Mon Dec-05-05 02:37 PM by Tesha
Republican supporters fall into 7 main categories (with some
substantial overlap amid the last six):

1. The truly rich. This is the real constiutuency of the Republican
Party and the only cohort for which a Republican vote really makes
sense and isn't the equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot.

2. Ignorant people who think they'll be rich someday (either because
their number finally comes in in the lottery or because someone will
finally recognize their value and pay them "what they deserve".)

3. Anti-abortion zealots

4. Homophobes

5. Racists

6. Xenophobes

7. Men who can't come unless they're stroking their long, hard gun(s).

Tesha
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GrumpyGreg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:36 PM
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9. You must know some Republicans. Ask them. How would we
know,assuming you really want the information.


Catholics,traditionally Democrats,are not pro-abortion so the abortion issue tell you nothing.

Catholics and Jews were also banned from many elite golf clubs and yet they are usually Democrats.

I know many Republicans who have never owned or fired a gun in their lives. These folks are all in the Northeast,though,so that may make a difference.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:38 PM
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10. Ignorance about the real issues
Edited on Mon Dec-05-05 02:41 PM by RagingInMiami
Most Americans are unaware and bored by the real issues so they vote on superficial reasons, i.e, morals, family values, because their parents voted republican, etc.

In their minds, convervative vs. liberal is not greedy, corporate elitists vs. regular working Americans. It's decent, hard-working people vs. promiscious, self-indulgent people who want to mooch off the government.

You see, the repubublicans have done an excellent job on reversing the truth because in reality, who are the self-indulgent people who mooch off the government (through tax breaks)?





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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:38 PM
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11. Why did Tom Riddle become Voldemort? Why did Anakin become Darth Vader?
One word: POWER
(also, in this case, racism, sexism, homophobia, love of war and guns, the idea that you have to be a Repub to be a Christian, and abortion)
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:38 PM
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12. I have never supported the GOP but my parents did
and I will describe what led them to it. Keep in mind that they were 89 years old when they passed away a few years ago! But I'm wondering how much their mindset prevails.

My parents were not wealthy. My mother never had shoes until she went to school and never had indoor plumbing until she got a scholarship to the U of Alabama. My dad was the son of a Carpenter. They both finished college and entered the post-war life. It was possible then to "make it" on one salary. My mother went to work as a teacher when I was in grade school, to help out. They were just regular, hard-working people. I never heard either of them criticize minorities. They went to church regularly but left it at church. My dad was a scientist, a chemist for DuPont. "Democrat" in our house meant FDR and that was not a good thing. Democrat meant welfare and that was worse. Democrat meant unions and organized crime and that was scary. VERY scary. They were good people. But they just believed that everyone should take out their garbage once a week, cut the grass and have a job. I don't think they thought about it a lot. Abortion wasn't on the agenda and either were gay rights, back then.

And I think there are a LOT of folks out there with similar philosophies who just don't think about it a lot. We can call them stupid or we can try and GET them to think about it just a little bit, and they are ours for the taking. I believe that if Bushco happened ten years ago, with just a big of cajoling I could have gotten them to vote Democrat.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:49 PM
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14. Deep down, you all know its...HATE and nothing else.
They even make their god hate, even though the Bible says, God is love.
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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:50 PM
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16. I went off on one of my email rages this weekend.
In it I asked all the Bush voters in my email list to let me know why they voted for him, and if they did, did they get what they paid for.

One of my points was how much better off they are not that in some states Gay couples can't marry, did it decrease their gas prices, utility prices, cost of living, etc.

I also asked how the killing of masses of Iraqi civilians along with our own troops has benefited them.

Amazing thing...no one has answered me. Uhm...I wonder why!? I am sure they are compiling their lists and it is so extensive that it is just taking them a while to type it out. :shrug:
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 02:57 PM
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17. My two closest friends are Republicans as well as one close co-worker.
We just steer clear of politics and religion, they both feel they work very hard and have good morals because they go to church(even though both have slept with married women).

My co-worker I do not know as well and have really only talked politics once with and she basically said "ow your a liberal, that damn Hillary is going to get elected with her health care bullshit".

So here it goes:

Friend #1: Baptist, just over 30 womanizer. He votes Republican because of 'all the damn welfare bums', Democrats want to take away all of his guns with a side of gay hate thrown in. The main thing though is taxes and how it all goes to bums.

Now I tried to point out the contradiction when he himself took unemployment for 6 months(for being fired for frankly being lazy himself) but that never sunk in. Even while this guy did back breaking construction work for 10 bucks an hour after loosing his 30+ hour job he said "Guys doing this job shouldn't make much they need the motivation to get a better job." Okay...

Friend #2: Catholic, well thats about it he is Catholic. It all comes down to abortion for him. I cornered him once in a debate and basically said if Kerry did XYZ the three things my friend used to say why he didn't like him would he get his vote... nope because of abortion. The rest is just smoke and mirrors.

Co-worker: Combo of homophobia, racism and welfare bums. Husband is a dittohead. I believe in some ways she may actually be the most salvageable. An example: "Rising company health care premiums is because we now allow gay people to get as partner to use an employees insurance."
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Kashka-Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 03:01 PM
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18. historically- white southern democrats who didn't like civil rights
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 03:08 PM
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19. Racism, bigotry and xenophobia. n/t
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 03:09 PM
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20. Fear.
Other than the truly rich Fear is what keeps the masses in line: Fear of their money going to those who "didn't earn it", fear of teer-wrists, xenophobia, fear that someone will take away theair "freedoms", fear of commies, fear of the loss of their values (which are lost anyways).

Fear.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 03:11 PM
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21. A garden-variety of various nuts, ideologues and religious zealots coupled
with some almost/wanna be-affluents who think they too disproportionately benefit from tax cuts for the wealthiest.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 03:18 PM
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22. Need to control others, fear of others taking something from them
both of those pretty much cover the religious nutcases, oppression of anyone not a heterosexual, white, male, and the rabid welfare / taxes / bums haters.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 03:22 PM
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23. I know some good people who are Republicans
but pay little to know attention to what the Rethuglicans do vs. what they say and what they have become. They still consider Eisenhower the model for the party and Nixon was just a blip. Reagan brought pride back to the Country after the failures of Nixon, Ford and (in their eyes) Carter. No one can really explain Bush I. :eyes:

Now? How can they support Bush II*? Denial and homer rooting. Politics has turned into such a sport that you love your "team" in up years as well as down years - some folks will be Republicans just like some fans will always be Royals fans. (sorry, Royals fans, just using a team close by that isn't the Twins :D).

I've lost a lot of respect for those who refuse to see the sheer evil and corruption behind the Rethugs of the last decade or two, but that thinking is what keeps that part that still gives the 37% approval nod to Bush*
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