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Loonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:44 AM Original message |
Hillary backs 'ban' on flag-burning |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
1. This woman disgusts me! |
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cantstandbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Why isn't she spending her time trying pass legislation to help Katrina |
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wtbymark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
2. Who cares n/t |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Exactly. nt |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
3. It may boost cred in Red States, but . . . |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 11:14 AM Response to Reply #3 |
50. I doubt ANY RWer will vote for her ... surely not for this. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 04:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
77. Her negatives are so high among even the "moderate" right |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
4. If she isn't careful... |
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MemphisTiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:50 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. This is just one of the factors that will keep her from |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Agree with you |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 05:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
89. I'm beginning to wonder if she's going to be able to keep her Senate Seat |
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TallahasseeGrannie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
5. Bad move |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:18 AM Response to Reply #5 |
30. You're right. Flag-burning is pure political speech. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
6. She's the co-sponser of the bill. What do you expect? NY Post is spinning |
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long_green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
7. What are her negatives in the "red states?" |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. *ding* ding* ding*! |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 05:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
92. Remember, she doesn't bake cookies. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
11. Tell her to go enlist herself. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
12. She looks like she is trying to become one the most disliked senators by |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
14. Hillary: NY's version of Joe Lieberman |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 11:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
54. Both have historically fought against any proposed flag burning amendment |
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pdxmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
15. I've tried to stay open-minded about the possibility of a |
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bluedeminredstate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:17 AM Response to Reply #15 |
29. I'm with you. |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
16. I have just lost |
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OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
17. OK, now I think she's goofin' on us |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
18. Wow. She won over the 5 voters for whom this is THE big issue |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
19. gee, Hil, you are SO right - this really IS a major issue confronting |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
20. Why should I care what a Republican thinks? |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
21. Hillary is a 'red herring'...she's un-electable (woman;hated by many, |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
22. The first people we should arrest: All those damn Bushbots |
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TheFarseer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
23. Hillary, sweetie, no one on the RW is going to vote for you |
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montana500 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 03:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
69. you nailed it |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
24. *Groan* |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
25. "a move that will boost her credibility in the conservative "red" states. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
27. Video games and burning the flag. Yeah Hil, those are our biggest |
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montana500 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 03:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
70. lol |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
28. This strikes me as just a form of "red meat" for the RW base. |
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ChickMagic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
31. Why doesn't she suggest a mandate |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:40 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Now there's a thought! |
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chelsea0011 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
32. Does she understand that she should be solidifying the base, not |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
33. Lets Make It Simple...No One Who Voted For The IWR Can Be The Nominee |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
34. Is Hillary a Republican? |
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Bloodblister Bob (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:31 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Hillary is a power-hungry swine. n/t |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
36. Let's see here, pro-war, anti First Amendment, pro corporate, |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:37 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. That she's a former Goldwater Girl doesn't bother me... |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:55 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. The reason that I bring up the fact that she was a Goldwater Girl |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
37. Is there any pandering to the rightwing that she won't indulge in? |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
39. STOP THIS ILLEGAL WAR! oh, and gee, save us from flag-burning because |
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Seansky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
41. did any dem learned anything from the kerry campaign? |
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Redneck Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
42. "...boost her credibility in the conservative "red" states." |
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FVZA_Colonel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 03:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
67. I agree completely. |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
44. The difference between Consevatives and Liberals and she should learn this |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
45. I had many reservations with her. It's decided now: I will... |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 10:40 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Don't sit it out; vote Green |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 10:44 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. What do you say to those who attack you for splintering the vote? |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 11:04 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. My point is to (eventually) elect Progressives. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 06:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
97. Weak argument... |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 11:00 PM Response to Reply #97 |
106. Why don't you tell that to, oh, the other half of this website |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
46. How many ways can she prove she's not a little-d democrat? (NT) |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
51. Once again, the Hillary haters totally missed her true objective |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Amending the Constitution is not done by Congress alone |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 11:53 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. How is fighting any proposed flag burning amendment "surrendering"? |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 12:29 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. She co-sponsored a Republican bill to ban Flag burning |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. "Flag burning is an American Right. Freedom of Speech". Yes, that's why |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Oh I get it we need to destroy the village to save it.. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 11:50 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Worth noting |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 04:31 PM Response to Reply #51 |
79. Please. Stop it. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 11:40 PM Response to Reply #79 |
108. It's pandering to the heartlands and the south? I'll bet southern DU'ers |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
52. I've said this before: |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
57. Wonder when she starts giving the "anti-Bill" speeches |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
58. Is the story in anything more reliable than the Post? |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. The Post fails to tell the reason WHY Hillary is doing this |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. So, she wants to protect our right to burn flags by making it a crime |
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Duncan Grant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
78. Let's hope the political tide is favorable to GLBT people in '08. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
62. So does Dennis Kucinich. |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. Shhh. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #72 |
94. Darn, I forgot. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 06:56 PM Response to Reply #72 |
98. Be vewy vewy qwiet...thew hunting Hilawy.... |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 04:08 PM Response to Reply #62 |
75. So ? and if so he's wrong TOO |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 06:02 PM Response to Reply #75 |
96. My point is that we should consider the ENTIRE person and their record |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 04:10 PM Response to Reply #62 |
76. Evidence? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 04:43 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. He actually voted to amend the Constitution to protect the flag |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 05:59 PM Response to Reply #76 |
93. Sure |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:57 PM Response to Reply #93 |
100. Voted NO in 2005 |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:59 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. I didn't realize he flip flopped. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 02:56 AM Response to Reply #101 |
111. ...or, alternatively, changed his mind. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. I was joking. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 09:53 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. Well, you'll notice I didn't snarl at your comment. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 09:59 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. And I didn't snarl at yours... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 09:54 PM Response to Reply #62 |
99. He used to. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 10:01 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. He seemed quite passionate about his position at one time. |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 01:00 AM Response to Reply #102 |
109. Hillary seems to have switched on this issue herselfd |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #109 |
115. "Too bad, burning people doesn't bother her this much." |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
65. LOL- does she really think she can appeal to red states? |
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FVZA_Colonel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
66. Didn't the Supreme Court declare a Texas law that did the same thing |
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montana500 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
68. she can sell out all she wants... |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
71. The New York Post says that she's doing this to boost her |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
73. I've met evil and it is the utter banal wishy washy middle of the road |
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The Whiskey Priest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
74. Can Hilary do anything else to PO the left wing of the party....... |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
80. goddammit Hillary |
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Tactical Progressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
82. I'm guessing that by outlawing flag-burning |
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flaminbats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
83. these nuts will ban flag burning, but soaking a flag in the rain is fine! |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 06:17 AM Response to Reply #83 |
113. and standard protocol for a used up flag is burning. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
84. That does it! She's officially on my shit list! |
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seito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
85. Gotta love those red herrings |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
86. Why doesn't she just change her name to Hillary Robertson-Falwell? |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
87. It's a very limited bill. Check your facts. |
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flaminbats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 05:46 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. isn't that already illegal? |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
88. This is what I call a straight up Fascist move . Will New Yorkers Support |
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DanCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
90. It's a fine flag - direct your anger at the Bush Administration |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
95. Knocking out Hillary is the Progessives Most Important battle after 2006 |
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LincolnMcGrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
103. This surprises anyone? |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
104. The straw, methinks, that might have broken the camel's back |
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the_real_38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
105. She will not get my vote now.... |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-05-05 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
107. Kucinich supported a Flag Burning Amendment |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
110. Too bad |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-06-05 06:04 AM Response to Original message |
112. well, i've already washed my hands of her. so... |
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