OK West Coasters watching Daily,, are White Stripes..

[TomInTib]

the greatest band you have ever heard?

My dog just puked on the sofa.

[WindRavenX]

1. I don't get the White Stripes hate

I really don't.

[WatchWhatISay]

2. I don't get the White Stripes admiration

but they didn't bother me either, just not my cup of tea

Maybe you have to be young to understand?

[TomInTib]

3. I think you are right. Grateful Dead/ phish type of thing.

Real Deal vs Wannabees

[WindRavenX]

6. Maybe it's because I'm tired of mainstream crap

Listening to them is a unique experience because they don't sound like *anything* out there.

[progdonkey]

15. I'll agree with you on that... but only that

if you see my post lower on this thread, you'll see I'm no fan of the White Stripes, but I will give you that they do have a recognizable sound. You can't confuse their music with anyone else's and vice versa.

That being said, however, they aren't terribly inventive as far as song composition goes and they don't really have a whole lot of raw talent (repeating my other post, the drummer is especially atrocious). The songwriting (of their singles, at least--I haven't bought any of their albums) is just shit and their riffs and hooks are cliched at best and cheap plagiarism at worst. 7 Nation Army just had a cliched riff over and over and over again--it's a nice riff, but it was nice the hundred times I'd heard it before in other songs. Fell in Love with a Girl's "Ah" line is a basic line that's been heard a million times before. That's not to say they're the worst thing out there or that they're cookie-cutter, it's just that they don't deserve at all any of the accolades they've received over the years.

Yes, sonically they're rather unique, but from an actual content and talent point of view, they're nothing special.

[KharmaTrain]

19. I've Heard Them Called The Eurythmic's Illegitimate Children

That's ok...the same person called Savage Garden "Abba's Bastards"...so I guess this isn't as bad...

:rofl:

[killbotfactory]

4. Me neither

They play stripped down rock in an age of music that is produced to death. It's a nice change.

[kaygore]

5. Guests are much more appropriate

The show tonight was weak. Having a rerun segment and the the music meant that the writers didn't have to put much effort into tonight's show. I was disappointed.

[TomInTib]

8. Spot on. I was trying to figure this out. I think this is a cheap

cop-out.

Hope this doesn't start some trend in Stewart's show

[AntiCoup2K4]

7. I've heard worse, but what I don't understand....

...is how the fuck this guy is considered the greatest guitar player since Eddie Van Halen. Seems like pretty basic three chord stuff to me.

[TomInTib]

9. This guy just sucks. Anyone who thinks he can play..can't play

Good god allmighty!

[progdonkey]

13. they're both poor musicians; she especially...

He's usually out of tune, though he does play piano as well, so I'll give him some respect for that, but nothing he ever does with the guitar is very intriguing. He doesn't have the virtuoso chops of an Eddie van Halen or Randy Rhoads, nor does he have the inventive sonic tapestry of the Edge or Tom Morelo.

She's just an awful, awful drummer. Seriously. She can't keep a steady beat, nor keep a consistent intensity. She'll have very weak hits interspersed throughout, all while playing very basic drum patterns that any drummer should be able to play flawlessly after a few months, if even that.

The one thing I'll give White is that he does compensate for the lack of a bass, but he does so by just setting his guitar to octaves, so if you didn't know they didn't have a bass player, you'd just think they had someone playing extremely boring bass lines.

[Swamp Rat]

10. I am biased...

I didn't like the music.

It sounded pretty awful, so I left the room until it was over.

Maybe I need to get to know them better, and be more open-minded... I don't know. I have a masters degree in classical guitar (and I play percussion in a Brazilian group, among other things), so perhaps I am biased to that type of technical perfection. I am not going to just write them off, though upon first listen I actually got pissed that Jon had them on in the first place. I know desperate musicians in and from New Orleans who are technically much better and much more versitile (much better in tune, etc.), again MY bias.

I also know a lot of street musicians who play in a raw style, very similar to what I heard this evening, and I have learned to appreciate it for what it is... art, language, communication. Yeah, I learned every Van Halen and Jimi Hendrix riff when I was a teen, but I actually got sick of those styles too... another bias I developed. I even began to think Andres Segovia wasn't all that good! Hubris! Eventually, I quit playing after 25 years! See where my bias led to? Now, I am jammin' with street musicians, a lot like the ones I refused to listen to a little while ago. Go figure...

I guess some musicians (me) are moody? :shrug:

[TomInTib]

11. If you get to San Fran look me up. We will rip the skin off those

posers!
I left it alone after way too much time slogging.

But I had my fun. My street musician was Lightnin' Hopkins. Taught me everything I needed.

[Swamp Rat]

14. I've seen Lightnin' Hopkins play a few blocks from my house.

He roolz! :)

I spent a few months in SF playing in Washington Square Park, and many nights in front of Vesuvio on Columbus Ave., and recording with my brother in Marin (he shared a studio with Les Claypool, Neil Schon and a few other hep cats). ;)

I'm just staring to play guitar again. I can play a few pieces by Heitor Villa Lobos (and some renaissance pieces, for ex.), and I still remember some Rush tunes. I'm really more interested in Django and Brazilian chôro (jazz) and folk music from the Northeast of Brasil. Katrina kinda fucked that all up - I lost equipment, etc.

I did get a little money from MusicCares, so I want to buy an interface for my iMac for recording guitar, percussion and vocals. Got any suggestions on boxes under $200 and software? I used to compose music by first doing it in my head and on the guitar, and then just notating it in Finale (which I don't have anymore... so many of my arrangements and compositions are unaccessible now :cry:), VERY old school. What software can I use for recording AND notation?

[Swamp Rat]

16. Dupe... cuz even Jesus loves da Lightnin' Hopkins!

:)

[MuseRider]

12. I did not know that

about you Swamp Rat!

Percussion in a Brazilian group. Wow! I would LOVE to hear that. Classical Guitar too?

All musicians are moody. That is A OK, it is a job hazzard.

[Swamp Rat]

17. Come to Mardi Gras 2006!

I will be playing in a few parades and Mardi Gras balls. Last time, I played played with Cyril Neville and my band had the entire audience dancing their asses off! :D

[MuseRider]

18. No kidding!

That is so cool. We have a musician here who is displaced from New Orleans (big surprise) who has played on a CD with the Neville Brothers. I will have to ask my husband his name tomorrow and let you know, you may know him or of him. I don't know about Mardi Gras but if we can find a place to stay and if there is one we will be trying to make the Jazz Festival. We missed the last 2 and we MUST get back. I must get another chance to hear Nicholas Peyton in his avant-garde band again. Damn they were fine.

[REP]

20. Erm, No

Stuff being played badly out of tune tends to get on my nerves, and she's a bad drummer. Bad enought for me to notice.

I like the idea, but it was poorly executed tonight.

[400Years]

21. This whole thread reeks with jelousy

just sayin'
:nopity: