KO's Countdown is #1 show on MSNBC in November

[RamboLiberal]

It's program ranker time. FNC had 9 of the top 10 shows on cable news in November, with Bill O'Reilly averaging an impressive 2,552,000 viewers. H&C was #2, Greta was #3, Shep was #4 and Hume was #5.

CNN's Larry King was #7. He averaged 1,012,000 viewers in November. Notably, NewsNight with Aaron Brown averaged 795,000 viewers in November before it was yanked off the air; Anderson Cooper 360 averaged 632,000.

The #1 show on MSNBC was Countdown with Keith Olbermann. It averaged a strong 462,000 viewers for the month, beating HLN's top program, Nancy Grace. Hardball was MSNBC's #2 show, and Rita was #3.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/

Low Ratings For FNC In 25-54 Demo
Ratings for November 2004 were sky-high thanks to the election season. Compared to the year-ago, Fox News lost nearly half of its total day 25-54 demographic audience in November 2005. Their average of 227,000 viewers is their lowest in over two years, as this chart provided by CNN demonstrates:

[mzmolly]

1. Didn't some exec at MSNBC claim liberals don't watch tv?

Correction: Liberals don't watch shit. Give us real entertainment/journalism and we shall tune in.

GO KEITH!!!

[rockymountaindem]

2. I guess they'll be cancelling him soon like they did to Donohue

Evidently MSNBC just does that to all their top shows and it had nothing to do with Donohue's views.

:sarcasm:

[catmother]

17. they said he was too "liberal". n/t

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

3. On the same webpage...

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Brown: "I Think They Made A Mistake"
In today's NY Post, Liz Smith reports on her lunch with former CNN star Aaron Brown. She asked what he thinks of CNN's negative move on him:

"Of course, I think they made a mistake," he laughed. "But...they're entitled."

What's next? "I don't know exactly what I will do." He might write a book.

When Roger Ailes passed by their table at Michael's, "Aaron expressed admiration for the manner in which Fox beats the pants off its competitors. 'They are the most on-target, disciplined bunch I've ever seen!' he told Roger." Ailes made a lunch date with Brown...

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[RamboLiberal]

10. Also from website some more good news on PBS

Conservative-Leaning "Journal Editorial Report" May Move From PBS To Fox News

Later today, Fox News Channel will announce that the Wall Street Journal's "Journal Editorial Report" is moving from PBS to FNC. The news was leaked to FTV a few minutes ago.

The program is currently hosted by Paul Gigot, the editor of the conservative editorial page of the Journal. The program originally appeared on CNBC, but it was cancelled in January 2003. It reappeared on PBS in September 2004.

According to OpinionJournal.com, the program is currently presented by Thirteen/WNET New York and replayed on more than 300 public TV stations across the country.

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The "Journal Editorial Report" on PBS has been enveloped in controversy recently. A May 2 report in the New York Times said Corporation for Public Broadcasting chairman Kenneth Tomlinson "encouraged corporation and public broadcasting officials to broadcast 'The Journal Editorial Report.'" Tomlinson helped get the program on the air "as a way of balancing 'Now,'" the story added. Tomlinson was "instrumental in lining up $5 million in corporate financing and pressing PBS to distribute it."


http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/

[burythehatchet]

4. somewhere at MSNBC

there's someone who thought Rita Cosby in a speaking role was a good idea.

[Catherine Vincent]

5. Include me in that 462,000 viewer population.

:bounce:

[Patsy Stone]

6. Because he rocks

so hard! :loveya:, KO!

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

9. Very glad to see Keith is #1, beating Tweety.

I heard today MSGOP is cancelling "Connected" w/ Ron Reagan and Monica Crowley.

[Patsy Stone]

11. Could they cancel Throaty McHuskington, too?

What the hell ever possessed them to give her airtime?

I like Ron Reagan, but Monica Crowley needs to be stuck in an elevator together with Michelle Malkin for all eternity.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

13. I like Ron Reagan, too. Maybe he can get a show on AAR or

something. I'd like to see him on something (TV or radio).

[grasswire]

16. Me, too...

...although I can't stand to watch the show because of Dr. Crowley. She makes me puke. But I adore Ron.

[DainBramaged]

30. She admitted yesterday she's never been married

I saw her on something, maybe Imus, and she said she wasn't married, never had been.

Let's have a big

Hmmmmmmmmmm

:wtf: for a Repuke with an opinion who remains "single".

Let her stoopid rationalizing ass go back to the obscurity of WABC-AM on Saturdays.

[iconoclastNYC]

35. Yeah nice "family values" there.

Where are all the religious freaks to stone her for living a selfish anti-family lifestyle.

[Poiuyt]

7. So what does this say?

Bush's polls are in the tank, but O'Reilly leads KO but a considerable margin. Is it just that conservatives tend to watch news shows more than liberals?

This survey also refutes the notion of a "liberal" media.

[punpirate]

15. Uh, excuse me?

O'Really's Fear Factor is a news show?

Only if news is composed of him whining about someone he doesn't like.... :)

[Maraya1969]

26. A friend of mine from Oklahoma said she doesn't get MSNBC on

her cable. She is quite a liberal, can't stand * and would definitely watch MSNBC if she could. Maybe that is part of the problem. They might need to expand their coverage area.

[napi21]

8. The shocker is that Rita is #3!

Good lord. I was hoping they'd get rid of the idiot who can't talk!

Even my son, who was visiting last week, asked "Does she always talk like that?" I never listen to her, but hadn't changed the chanel after keith yet.

[CanOfWhoopAss]

24. Her voice is like Jim Carey's warrior princess character on

"In Living Color". Don't knock her she is making strides for the transgender community :sarcasm:.

[mod mom]

29. In Oct, Rita was # 1 and Keith # 2, I couldn't believe it.

[spooky3]

31. She benefits from the strong lead-in Keith provides.

And there is a always a big audience for tabloid trash like her show.

[liveoaktx]

12. I didin't notice Tucker Bowtie on that at all

[abbeyco]

14. Um, yeah - Tucker doesn't count!

:rofl:

[catmother]

18. love keith. remember when "the gates" were in central park and

he called them the orange shower curtains.

[alittlelark]

19. Are they gonna 'Donohue' him?

Donohue was their highest rated show. 9-11 happened and they cancelled him w/in 2 days.


Is he at risk of being 'Donohued?

[Ignacio Upton]

20. You're confusing him with Bill Mahr

Mahr's show Politically Incorrect was cancelled after he made a comment about how fighter and bomber pilots were the real "cowards" for not engaging in more direct combat in Afghanistan, although he wasn't being serious about the comment. Donohue had his show start in July 2002 and was cancelled in the run up to Iraq because MSNBC didn't want an anti-war voice on the air and cave in to Right-Wing rhetoric and fear-mongering.

[Jane Austin]

21. Did he really call them cowards?

I thought he said the hijackers were more courageous than bomber pilots because they were hands-on and died in the effort, rather than being a thousand feet above the destruction.

If he'd called our pilots cowards, I think I might have wanted him gone, too, and I remember thinking that what he said was quite true.

[Ignacio Upton]

36. I don't remember the exact quote

I just remember what was paraphrased by some...then again, after 9/11 I even trusted Freeper-types for info (I got swept up in the 90% of Americans who supported Bush's job approval, even though I was critical of him even beofre 9/11, yet I was stupid enough to give him a blank check.)

[Jane Austin]

37. Exact quotes aren't necessary,

but the difference between calling our pilots "cowards" and calling the hijackers "more courageous" is a big difference in meaning.

Google is your friend when you think you remember what somebody said, but don't have it exactly. :)



(edited to add bit about Google)

[NYCGirl]

38. Here's the exact quote from an interview with Bill Maher:

Last year, on the first episode of his "Politically Incorrect" show since the Sept. 11 attacks, he infamously compared the bravery of American politicians with that of al-Qaida terrorists. "We have been the cowards, lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That's cowardly," Maher said on the Sept. 17 episode. "Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it's not cowardly."

http://archive.salon.com/people/interview/2002/12/11/maher/

[Wordie]

22. I wish they'd bring Mahr's show back.

I heard that Koppel had something to do with taking Mahr off, although I don't know if that's true or not. It would be great to get Politically Incorrect back on the air. I wonder if there has been any discussion of it, now that events have shown Mahrs comments and questioning of our governments actions to be not so bad after all.

That said, back to the topic of the post (sorry)...

I'm really happy to see that KO did so well in the ratings. He is great. It occurs to me that FOX news may do better in the ratings because the relatively normal broadcasts have to share viewers, while FOX gets ALL the weirdos. ;)

[alittlelark]

33. Phil Donohue had the #1 rated MSNBC show.

His show was cancelled right after 9/11.. It also happened to Bill Mahr, but on another network. I was commenting on MSNBC.

[RamboLiberal]

44. Donahue actually was cancelled before * invaded Iraq

Couldn't have someone question the reasons! Networks were too eager to get those embeds in and garner the ratings from Shock 'N Awe.

[CanOfWhoopAss]

23. KO's rating would be higher but he goes against The Daily Show here. WTF?

Are they intentionally trying to split the ratings? Why not throw Scarbitch, Hardscum or Abums against TDS so we can see Keith's reall audience?

[spooky3]

32. same here (for TDS reruns). I wish Comedy Central would move it to 9.

[Pachamama]

25. MSNBC or NBC should hire Aaron Brown...

Between then having KO and Aaron, they could beat out Faux News and CNN...I'm not watching CNN anymore and Aaron Brown was the only reason to turn to it. The only reason I watch MSNBC is because of KO, occassionally to watch Tweety play softball and to watch Russert's Meet the Press. However, if they had Aaron on, I think it would balance out some of their idiots like Tucker Carlson and Rita Cosby and Joe Scarborough and I would make MSNBC and NBC a regular pit stop for news.

[drbtg1]

34. Absolutely

If only somebody could get word to new NBC News president Steve Capus to straighten out MSNBC AND CNBC, they could have a winner. Make MSNBC left-wing in primetime and CNBC right-wing in primetime, which could also make both sides in Congress happy with GE (Hello? McFly? Anyone home?)

Keep Olbermann where he is, followed by Rachel Maddow at 9pm, then Aaron Brown, and finally Ron Reagan. Then push Cosby, Scarborough, Carlson and Crowley to CNBC primetime. Maybe they could do a MSNBC-CNBC simulcast at 11pm with a show like Carlson and Press's old CNN show "The Spin Room". Then maybe on an occasional Sunday night, get the MSNBC and CNBC folks together at some college to duke it out.

[Pachamama]

39. LOVE IT! This idea should be sent to the Prez of NBC!

What would also be fascinating is to see who got the higher viewership and ratings....my bet would be on the more liberal/progressive slant...

:hi:

[drbtg1]

43. Thanks, but I doubt they would give a rat's ass about my idea.

While a MSNBC-CNBC ratings race might be interesting, it's would be more interesting to GE, I would think, in it's ability to market the channels. We have an incredibly polarized country, but nobody really markets to those demographics in major media. Even Fox tries to play it middle of the road ("fair and balanced") (although obviously an examination of the content betrays the marketing) and all that it has earned them is a viewership of 2.5 million on their most watched program. Considering the total nation's population, it's not that impressive. GE, with proper marketing, could win on both fronts.

As for the liberal/progressive slant winning, yeah it could easily win considering this side is incredibly underserved. BUT they need quality people! If they got someone like Garafalo, it'd bomb (she's horrible on TV).

While I'm pessimistic about their interest in my idea, I truly appreciate your compliment. I've read your posts before and have great respect for your opinion.

[Catchawave]

27. Go KO !

I think his numbers would be much higher if MSNBC were in as many markets as Faux and CNN.

Doesn't he get even higher ratings for the midnight rebroadcast?

[aaronbees]

28. The best news in there...

is Fox losing some of its 25-54 viewership. Let's hope that trend continues!

Not surprised KO is at the top for MSNBC; he's really had some good, hardhitting shows lately and knows how to make Countdown both informative and enjoyable to watch. That, plus his sly humor, makes him a winner to TV surfers. He's on the upswing, I think.

[Freddie Stubbs]

40. The highest rated show on the lowest rated channel?

Sounds like the world's tallest midget.

[Kingofalldems]

41. A snide slam of Olberman

Not surprising.

[Freddie Stubbs]

46. I find him entertaining

I just think that it is amusing how some are trying to spin his low ratings.

[WCGreen]

42. One thing you have to remember about fox....

Their top rated show still only attracted about a third of the audience for the lowest ranked Network NEws....

Also, more people watch Reba on the WB than watch Bill O'Reilly...

As for Tweety....

Put this in perspective... HE has about 400k watchers... That is about how many people live in Dayton or Toledo... So, if you compare the population of Dayton or Toledo to the population of the rest of the country.....

[Justice Is Comin]

45. I wish Keith would do the solid hour on zingers

of the politics of the day instead of all that other oddball odd ball stuff he does. Like Hardball is.

There's plenty of other shows to see that other tripe.