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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 07:41 AM
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Under the dept of "Where have you been?" NY Times; people now sick of *.
Even his base is now bailing out ..... might we see polls in the 20s?

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/26/politics/26voices.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5090&en=45ac9cc5c8d37043&ex=1290661200&adxnnl=0&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1132974821-43ezW5w4u9xk1Z3HCTFtcw

<Then came the past summer, when the death toll from the war in Iraq hit this state particularly hard: 16 marines from the same battalion killed in one week. She thought the federal government should have acted faster to help after Hurricane Katrina. She was baffled by the president's nomination of Harriet E. Miers, a woman she considered unqualified for the Supreme Court, and disappointed when he did not nominate another woman after Ms. Miers withdrew.

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Many people who voted for Mr. Bush a year ago had trouble pinning their current discontent on any one thing. Many mentioned the hurricane and the indictment of a top aide to Vice President Dick Cheney, which some said raised doubts about the president's candor and his judgment. But there was a sense that something had veered off course in the last few months, and the war was the one constant. Over and over, even some of Mr. Bush's supporters raised comparisons with Vietnam.

"We keep hearing about suicide bombers and casualties and never hear about any progress being made," said Dave Panici, 45, a railroad conductor from Bradley, Ill. "I don't see an end to it; it just seems relentless. I feel like our country is just staying afloat, just treading water instead of swimming toward somewhere."

Mr. Panici voted for President Bush in 2004, calling it "a vote for security." "Now that a year has passed, I haven't seen any improvement in Iraq," he said. "I don't feel that the world is a safer place>
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HannibalBarca Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 07:56 AM
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1. .....
.."A Vote for Security"- Where does one begin with the idiocy of that statement.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 08:00 AM
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2. I don't know if you can make the case that his base is moving.
The people who voted for him last year included a lot of people who weren't in his base. I would guess that most of the hardcore conservatoids are in a bubble of denial, and will stay there.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 08:05 AM
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3. Having read the entire article...
they sound like morons apologizing for him.
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azureblue Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 08:30 AM
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4. They voted for Bush because--
He looked so confident / his words seemed to make sense / he is a christian

Nevermind what is his history and is what he is saying the truth!

Sheesh
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 08:44 AM
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6. Looked confident when he wasn't all
bruised up by his many spills;
words seemed to make sense (as long as he wasn't debating Kerry, was hooked up to his handlers, or had a pre-selected crowd to spew to), except in some instances (See
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5451918)

He seems Christian only when he knows cameras are going to be around; otherwise, I bet he doesn't even attend church on a regular basis.
He certainly doesn't act Christian!
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 09:12 AM
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7. Looked so confident? I must be nuts. I remember a nimrod moran who
drooled on himself, looked like a deer in headlights, screamed "You forgot Poland", and was wired for sound. A guy who was so insecure that he had to screen people before he let them in to hear his rambling incoherent speeches.

What guy was I watching?
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 10:07 AM
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11. Glad I wasn't hallucinating. I remember the
same dumbass as you. I also remember having a heated argument with a repuke I know over the wire the "moran" was so obviously wearing during the debates. He was convinced it had to be a bulletproof vest and became outraged when I said the asshole had to be fed his answers and even then he sounded like a tongue-tied third-grader with a bad case of stage fright - and that anyone who would even for one second consider voting for the imbecile had air between the ears.

This is exactly what I find so depressing about the US. Significant numbers of voters are uninformed idiots.

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 08:31 AM
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5. "That's just the media's fault, for not reporting the good news"
I can't wait until some Republican comes along and says this...
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 09:20 AM
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8. Mr. Panici, you're a dumb ass
Edited on Sat Nov-26-05 09:26 AM by RagingInMiami
"Mr. Panici voted for President Bush in 2004, calling it 'a vote for security'."


More like a vote for insecurity.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 09:22 AM
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9. And here is someone I would like to punch in the face
"Still, however much he may disagree with Mr. Bush's policies, Mr. Briggs said, he admires the president for standing by what he says."
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teamster633 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 09:40 AM
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10. "he admires the president for standing by what he says"
I seem to recall hearing a similar characterization about another megalomaniac that 'stood by what he said' right until the end, when he stuck a Luger in his mouth and took his own life in a bunker under the Reich Chancellery. Just because you refuse to admit you weren't right doesn't mean you weren't wrong.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 10:13 AM
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12. Lots of criminals are stubborn
Jeffrey Dahmer and Charles Manson also did what they believed was right for them.

They were very resolute.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 10:54 AM
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13. nope! he will give his speech on wed. in front of the troops and these
fucking morans will believe evey fucking thing he says. The chimp will get a bounce back to the 40s. Sorry but these folks will just lap up his lies again like they did a year ago.
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