Be Gone Freeper!

[Nickster]

Just trying to enjoy some coffee this morning. Some how I my freep step-dad started to talk about how a real impeachable offense was getting a blow job in the White House! Blah blah blah, right wing talking point, blah blah blah.....

I said "you need to stop listening to Rush Limbaugh"

"I don't listen to him, I just know the facts...it's out there in the mainstream media"

"You mean the Liberal Media?"

"Well...umm"

I said, come see me when you do have the facts and took my coffee upstairs.:-)

[texpatriot2004]

1. Yuck, freepers in the house. Good luck nm

[hlthe2b]

2. good for you (not taking the bait)...

[xchrom]

3. lol -- indeed! -- shoo --

goway! scat! skeedaddle! scoot!

[Left_Winger]

4. Speaking of that...

I am a teacher and I had to confiscate a rather unflattering (i.e. counterfeit) state quarter from one of my students last week who was showing it around.

It was for Arkansas and had a depiction of Clinton receiving "gratification" behind a tree on the reverse side. I told the student that it was "inappropriate" for school and took it from him. Then I brought it home and melted it down with a hand-held blow torch. Now that gave me some real satisfaction.

[Independent thinker]

6. Yes I agree that quarter was wrong for school BUT

It wasn't your property, you had no right to destroy it.

The appropriate thing would have been to contacted the student's
parents and showed it to them.

Basicly I call your actions theft and destruction of private property.
How would you like it if someone destroyed something of yours?

[Binka]

7. Please see Post #3

Thank you very much. Enjoy your stay at DU.

[donheld]

19. Welcome to ...

[Left_Winger]

20. Do you have any more advice as to how I should do my job?

In response to your accusations, I refute with this:

Theft? In my state it is prohibited to bring on to school grounds any drugs, alcohol, tobacco, weapons or pornographic material (among other items). Therefore, it was my obligation as a school official to have confiscated this quarter. The "theft" part of your point has been shot, dead.

Your point that I should have taken this to his parents: When I asked him where he got the coin, he said “my father.” So, what type of reaction do you think that going to his parents would have produced or what kind of results would have been achieved?

If I turned the item over to the school and wrote a discipline slip, the boy would have been suspended for three days; and this is not the type of kid who needs to miss three days. He’s not a bad kid, not just the brightest. Think about it: The brighter ones never would have shown the coin to me in the first place. Duh! So, with the way I chose to handle the situation he gets to stay in school, stay out of trouble (which would have been on his permanent record) and continue on.

Now to your point about having something stolen from me, destroyed and how I would feel:
1. Over the course of my life I have been burglarized twice and once the house was trashed.
2. I have been knocked unconscious (from behind) and had $150 stolen from me.
3. Someone smashed my car one night, was able to drive away and I never found out who did it. How were they able to drive away? According to the witness it was a full-sized Ford pickup versus my ’79 Honda Civic.

So, yeah, I know how it feels to be the victim of a crime. And, I know I made the correct decision in how to handle this situation with the student.

You are entitled to your opinion, but you feel the need to make an issue over a stupid little pornographic quarter? Sad, very sad indeed.

[OnyxCollie]

9. It is illegal. U.S. TITLE CODE: Title 18,331.

Mutilation, diminution, and falsification of coins.

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 17 > § 331

§ 331. Mutilation, diminution, and falsification of coins

Release date: 2005-08-03

Whoever fraudulently alters, defaces, mutilates, impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales, or lightens any of the coins coined at the mints of the United States, or any foreign coins which are by law made current or are in actual use or circulation as money within the United States; or
Whoever fraudulently possesses, passes, utters, publishes, or sells, or attempts to pass, utter, publish, or sell, or brings into the United States, any such coin, knowing the same to be altered, defaced, mutilated, impaired, diminished, falsified, scaled, or lightened—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000331----000-.html

[Occulus]

12. I strongly doubt that would apply...

....if the "quarter" itself was fake. As in, if the relief on the quarter was obviously made that way, it wasn't a coin manufactured by or at the US Mint; it is a demonstrably fake coin which was never "real" and thus wouldn't fall under the law you cited.

NOW:

If it had been made in one of those coin-press machines- you know, the ones that put THE LORD'S PRAYER ON A PENNY whilst flattening it out and thereby defacing actual currency, you would have a valid claim.

The law you cited does not apply in this case.

edited to add: this is part of the reason why arcade tokens are legal, and why it is legal to exchange actual coinage- quarters- for token in an arcade.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Yes it does, if it can "pass" it is counterfeit coin

[soup]

13. You're right.

That kid should be in JAIL.

The teacher probably saved the kid from having a record as a felon. Good save, I'd say.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. That quarter was a federal offense

I hope you realize that... it was coutnerfit money. You should have contacted the good ol folks at the Secret Service... or at the very leatst your local cops... after informing parents that kid had counterfit coin.

Yes let them face the music for that...

[Fescue4u]

21. Obvious fakes are not counterfit and not illegal

You would have a hard time convincing a jury that the perpetrator expected people to believe that money with a picture of women performing a sex act is legitimate currency.

Besides, not exactly the sort of thing that a prosecutor would pursue, unless the perpetrator was activing trying to spend/pass it and/or making more.

[Art_from_Ark]

23. You were wrong to do destroy the coin

First of all, how did you know it was counterfeit? It could have been a real quarter that was turned into a "novelty" quarter, which is perfectly legal. The laws against defacing US coins only apply if the intent is to deceive. For example, you cannot punch a hole in a coin if the intent is to tie a string through it and try to cheat a vending machine. You cannot change a date or mintmark on a US coin in order to make it appear more valuable. You cannot alter a foreign coin to make it appear to be a US coin.

Furthermore, if the boy said he "got the coin from his father", it could very well be that he took it from his father without permission, in which case you definitely had no right to destroy it. If you felt so strongly about it, you should just have contacted the parents. If you thought it was a counterfeit, you should have called the Secret Service. But you had no right to destroy that which was not yours.

[Mend]

5. it is all they have left to talk about....their guy is a little weenie

who can't find his way through a door, besides being the "worst.president.ever".

[julialnyc]

8. tell him to move past the 90's and get a life

Isn't it wiser to make today a better world? The 90's are history!

[Nickster]

10. Ahhhh, the Freep has hit the highway.....I've been chanting and sprinkling

holy water around the house to purify it. :-)

"The power of Christ compels you!"
"The power of Christ compels you!"

LOL

[Crankie Avalon]

11. "Let he who has never been blown cast the first stone"...

...or something like that.

Otherwise, it sounds like the guy should stop vicariously tittilating himself while pretending to be outraged long enough to grow up and get upset over things that are actually important--like how his country was deceived into a war by its own government.

[hfojvt]

16. Nickster? Nickster?

Are you talking about Jessica Simpson?

[Nickster]

18. Like,Like, OMG! You totally read my mind! Can you believe that she left

Nick Lachey????

LMAO

[Lefty48197]

17. lmao

"You mean the Liberal Media?"

:rofl:

[NMMNG]

22. Oy, a BJ in the WH is an impeachable offense

Yet lying thousands of times to America, getting the nation into an immoral war that has cost trillions and resulted in thousands of deaths, and having the most corrupt administration in history isn't?


No offense, but your step-dad has some pretty skewed values.

[Don Claybrook]

24. Do the Raid people sell a fogger for this kind of problem?

On second thought, whoever owns Raid probably contributes heavily to the GOP.

[BlueIris]

25. Raid? It's gone a little far for that, don't you think?

If I post what's in my head right now, some poor mod's just gonna have to waste time deleting my post, so I...won't. Except to repeat again--Raid? Wouldn't be effective enough, in my view.