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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:29 PM
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The Government's Concerned Deity, is he Yours?
In my often vain attempts to understand Justice Scalia I can usually reach a provisional understanding of his point of view. I have to admit being a little baffled when I finally had an opportunity to read his dissent in the recent Ten Commandment case. Justice Scalia wrote the following:

"With respect to public acknowledgment of religious belief, it is entirely clear from our Nation's historical practices that the Establishment Clause permits this disregard of polytheists and believers in unconcerned deities, just as it permits the disregard of devout atheists."

Of course Scalia is correct that prejudiced, ethnocentric, and even hateful comments by citizens do not violate the Constitution. The point that he forgets, I think on purpose, is that we are discussing governmental actions and laws, not religious speech by citizens. Scalia and many fundamentalist conservatives constantly prey on this misconception that we separationists are going to try to stop people from saying something religious in public. We want the government to leave religion to us and stay out of it.

But just what is an "unconcerned deity" and more importantly how do we tell what religion posesses the concerned deity? Who should make that decision? The people or the State? If we chose the later we would be no better than soviet communists and the governments that the early American colonists went to great distances to escape from.

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:32 PM
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1. Unconcerned deity = anyone but God
Now that's God with a capital G (like on the money), and not a generic god. I wish we could worship the Norse gods in school!

I pledge allegiance to THOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAAAAAAR!!!!
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:41 PM
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2. "I'm Thor" he said to the cute Valkyrie...
Edited on Thu Nov-24-05 10:41 PM by BiggJawn
"You're thor? YOU'RE thor??? Lithen buddy, I'm tho thor I can hardly pith! What a night!"
:evilgrin:
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:52 PM
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6. You forgot to say the cute Lisping Valkyrie....
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:43 PM
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3. Thor, is he concerned or unconcerned?
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:48 PM
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4. Today he is unconcerned.
Who knows about tomorrow. Stay tuned.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:52 PM
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5. I Am What they Refer To As A "Devout Atheist".
Edited on Thu Nov-24-05 10:52 PM by DistressedAmerican
I am not concerned about god as I do not think he exists. Not existing is the ultimate "unconcerned". What is there to concern yourself with if you do not exist?
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:55 PM
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7. This thing whatever the red god is that they worship is not Jesus.
My god is the prince of peace the god of reason a doctor and teacher.
A shepard who doesn't care if someone is his flock is gay or pro choice or pro stem cell because only he knows what's in thier heart. And my god disapproves of handlinks which keep the people away and thier self righteousness in.

My god is the god of the poor who keeps hungry feed and poor warm
My god makes sure the least is taken of first and the first taken care of last. And my god is one of quiet humility not vocal conservative nonsense.

I really don't know what chimp co has desocrated worse my religion or my flag. And am so sorry for all the crap that neo cons spew in his name. It's revolting. In conclusion all I know is that the more people that carry god in thier mouth have less in thier hearts.

Peace everyone :hug:
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 11:01 PM
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9. I agree and thank you!
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 11:00 PM
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8. What do you all think of that blog?
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