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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:35 PM
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Who do you wish the GOP would nominate in '08 and who do you fear most?
Candidate I wish they would nominate: (tie) between Allen and Gingrich

Candidate I would fear the most: (tie) between Hagel and McCain
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bottomofthehill Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:38 PM
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1. Hope Ashcroft fear McCain even at 72
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:38 PM
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2. I wish
In 2008 the Repukes would nominate Condi because she'd lose in a landslide.

I DON'T fear Howdy Doody Allen at all, if we don't get rid of Allen next year, I think he'll be the Repuke 2008 nominee.

I suppose in 2008 I'd fear Hagel.

I WISH this McCain 2008 stuff would STOP...UNTIL I'M BLUE IN THE FACE I KEEP SAYING: McCain will be 72 he'll be TOO old and he's already sick with his bouts of skin cancer.

MCCAIN WILL NOT BE THE 2008 REPUKE NOMINEE. END OF.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:40 PM
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5. I hope you are right about McCain
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:45 PM
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11. I am right about McCain...I'd EVEN bet money on it
That's how right I KNOW I am.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:44 PM
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9. I agree that McCain won't be the nominee
Primaries are voted on by the hardcore of the party, and they don't like McCain. While they might like Condi, I sincerely doubt the party of white males will nominate a black woman.

And I don't think Hagel has the gravitas to pull in the nomination.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:49 PM
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17. Condi Rice would lose
In a landslide because she's black and also she's NEVER been married, has no kids.

So she's black and obviously has no family values appeal. If she was the nominee, half of the Repuke voters would either stay home on election day, or they'd hold their nose and vote for our candidate.

Hagel could get it if he played his cards right. So could Colorado Governor Bill Owens.

My money right now would be on George Allen, which is why we need to get rid of him next year. We need to END his political career.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:40 PM
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3. I hope
they nominate Frist (unless indicted), then Jeb.

Fear they'll nominate McCain.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:40 PM
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4. Alan Keyes / Jerry Falwell 2008
That's my dream ticket
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:44 PM
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8. Fatwell and Robert-son-ofa. For the US Taliban ticket.
McCain is trying hard to get the nod.

How about McCain/Cheney? Watch them go in circles.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:42 PM
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6. I hope they nominate Frist
I fear McCain in a big way. Fortunately, the GOP is too extreme to nominate him.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:48 PM
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14. I guess you can run for President from jail!
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:59 PM
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24. McCain IS extreme, he's a Right-Wing Repuke, take a look at his
Voting record sometime. His voting record is VERY similar to Rick Santorum.

McCain is anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti-Labor Union, anti-UN, pro-Fundie stuff.

The man is extreme...don't be fooled by this Anti-Torture Bill he's pushing...the man has a black soul and he's got a lot of problems going up upstairs. He's not playing with a full deck.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 08:34 AM
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35. Lefty rhetoric aside, THEIR perception is that he is not an extremist
And THEIR perception is all that matters.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:43 PM
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7. hmm
Hope for anyone inside Washington already.

Fear unknown Governor with little track record.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:44 PM
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10. Want My Answer? Click Below
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:48 PM
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15. I agree with Mindcrime! It better not matter who they run.
We need to be able to beat WHOEVER they run, like a rented mule!

That means we need a strong candidate, a razor-sharp message, massive GOTV campaign, and most of all, BACKBONE (i.e., will to win, willingness to fight -- something that's been in short supply the last two elections).

Bake
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 06:52 PM
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34. Agree. And I'd like to add that our candidates better be able
to undeniably move some red states into the blue column. That's why I hope we nominate a good P and VP candidates from winable red states.
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:47 PM
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12. I wish they would draft* Cheney and make Jeb Bush VP nominee
I fear they'll nominate McCain and make Giluani his VP nominee.


*which would be the first "draft" Cheney ever deigned to enter.
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Kashka-Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:47 PM
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13. well thats where you and I are very different
Edited on Tue Nov-22-05 03:50 PM by Kashka-Kat
I absolutely dread another one from the BUSH crime family syndicate.

I wish they would nominate someone more moderate or center --Hagel or McCain.

That way youd see the entire political spectrum shift back to center... which would then allow "left" to exist allowed some validity and power...

Why do you wish to perpetuate these stark polarities which have been so damaging to our civic life here in the last couple of decades? Is allegiance to "party" really that meaningful to you? I don't know about anyone else, but I'm exhausted fighting for mere survival on such things as ANWR, Iraq war, torture/civil liberties, etc. If those things are not in peril ... then THAT allows us to move forward on such things as health care, etc.

There's this theory some lefties have been perpetuating for several decades now-- that things will get so dark and awful that people will revolt and embrace leftist revolution (or whatever). WRONG!!! Sometimes things get so bad that people give up, go numb... and then things get REALLY bad.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:49 PM
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16. I also fear Liddy Dole
although I don't think she'd ever get the presidential nod from the GOP. But she might snag the VP slot.
Especially if Hillary is on the Dem's ticket.
Cause Liddy will be marketed as the anti-Hillary.
And like most of the GOP candidates, she's not what she appears.
She's all "born again" and over-the-top sweetness and Southern gentility.
Except, of course, she and Bob were having a well-known affair while his wife of twenty years remained loyal and trusting.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:53 PM
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21. If the Repukes were to pick a woman for the 2008 Veep spot I think they'd
Edited on Tue Nov-22-05 03:54 PM by ...of J.Temperance
Pick Kay Bailey Hutchison. She's REALLY been sucking up BIG TIME to the crazy Fundie crowd...and she also voted NO on apologizing for the lynchings that went on pre-Civil Rights era.

She's also on the TV every chance, lying and bitching about ALL Democrats for TELLING THE TRUTH about Junior.

Yep, 'ole Kay is desperate for SOMETHING. Oh she also adopted a tiny baby a few years ago...her and her husband...so that'd look cute to I guess.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 04:53 PM
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27. You could be right
the Bushies and their entire cabal reward blind loyalty. Not competence or acumen. But steadfast, unwavering loyalty to the Reich. And, as you've noted, Hutchinson is desperately yipping and turning somersaults for her reward.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:50 PM
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18. The way things are going for the GOP right now ...
... with scandal after scandal being exposed, the 2008 Repub nominee might just be 'The Last Repub Standing' who ISN'T under indictment!
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:51 PM
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19. The ones we think to worry about can't win a republican nomination

You can't be a moderate like Rudy and Pataki and win, you can't be a conservative with an independent streak like McCain and win it. You also now can't be a more true conservative that challenges the neocons and win.

You have to be a neocon with the hardcore religious right and have the ability to appear somewhat moderate the way B*sh did in 2000. He found just enough to lie about to sound "not so bad" to moderate republicans and independents. That is who we worry about, and that is who they are going to nominate, I don't know what name the person will have.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 05:02 PM
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29. The Pastor Project
proves you correct. The Pastor Project is a pyramid scheme...you get 3 pastors to commit to the goal and they get 3 pastors...until the GOP is overrun with pastors who have enlisted their congregations to vote for Republican nominees in GOP primaries ONLY if they're completely fundamentalist. No more Bush, Sr. or Reagan type "wink wink" to the religious right. They want their very own hardcore Christian fundamentalistic nominees and only these folks will be supported in the primaries.
So. Moderates don't stand a chance of running if the Pastor Project prevails. They'll be closed out by their own party.
Actually. It's not their party anymore. It's been hijacked.
And they have Bush to blame. He catered so slavishly to the religious right to squeak by in the general election that he compromised the future of the GOP.

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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 05:12 PM
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32. And in most states they own the state gop party

In Louisiana it used to be the only republicans were lawyers wanting to get federal judgeships or prosecuter jobs from a gop administration. Then as they grew a bit and for the longest time the gop was run by conservative business types who had to two real goals they fought for, a pro business agenda and fight corruption. Starting in the late 80's and early 90's the far right wing and evangelicals began their take over at the parish and then state level. The old line republicans had the money but the far right took it using just the means you stated.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 05:23 PM
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33. They're relentless and smarter
than we've given them credit for...they started, as you've described, with grassroots efforts of getting on school boards and other local government offices. They've been patient. And worked hard.
Now. They expect their payoff.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:51 PM
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20. Let´s see, will it be real, say Dupont, or mean Delay, or could it be..
Ayatollah Dobson, our defacto demented dictator will still be de-leader.

And he´ll ban anything delovely like me.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:55 PM
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23. Yeah, what about James Dobson/Ralph Reed '08
Heck, that'd be the ULTIMATE fantasy :)
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 03:54 PM
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22. I wish they would nominate Dan Burton..
Candidate I would fear the most would be McCain.. I fear he would get a lot of votes from uninformed democrats..
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 04:02 PM
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25. MCain will be tough
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 04:03 PM
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26. Dream ticket: Tom DeLay, Karl Rove.
:evilgrin:
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Tony_Illinois Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 04:56 PM
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28. How about Tom DeLay and MEAN JEAN SCHMIDT?
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 05:05 PM
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30. Hope - Frist, fear - McCain
If Frist gets nominated like he is so desperately wanting to, that would be easier than running unopposed for the Dems!

If McCain gets nominated, say hello to another 8 years of fundamentalism!
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 05:06 PM
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31. McCain and Jeb Bush
McCain might actually do a decent job.

Jebbie is just another BFEE.
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Kashka-Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 12:01 PM
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36. I JUST DONT GET IT
Yikes was this ever an eye opener. You all would prefer the possibility -- no, certainty-- of the extremist slime branch of the repub party taking (yes, "taking") the presidency again rather than the possibility of a moderate republican getting nominated/elected?

Let me tell you if the slimes get the nomination, then they WILL get elected (or do I mean "installed") as they have the last 2 elections, no matter which dem is running against them.

If a moderate-- that would signal to me that POSSIBLY something's shifted within the repub party to thwart the power of the extremists. And, in my book-- that would be a GOOD THING!!!

I just don't get your thinking AT ALL.

Sheesh. I thought this was forum for "progressives", not just party adherents?

Yah I know the drill-- I won't let the screen door hit me on the way out!
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-05 12:03 PM
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37.  I dont want to see a senator mccain sen clinton match up.
That would be disastorus for the dem party.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:27 AM
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38. I want them to nominate Cheney
Not a chance in hell, I'm aware, but damn that would be sweet! We could nominate anybody then and win. Hell, we could nominate a rock and it would win against Cheney.

Ah, what a dream.

Who do I fear the most: McCain. He's still got street cred, just not with me.
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:32 AM
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39. McCain: The guy is a certifiable lunatic, with an anger problem.
He is a loose cannon on the deck, or I never saw one !
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