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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 01:28 PM
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-1% prison population commits 18% of murders: guess who?

http://alternet.org/story/27726/


Hate Crimes in Prison
Aryan Brotherhood members make up less than one percent of the nation's prison inmate population, yet the white power gang is responsible for 18% of all prison murders. Why?


Within the Ronald Reagan Federal Building and United States Courthouse is a courtroom called the "Nuremberg room," for its resemblance to the famous chamber in which 22 leaders of the Third Reich were tried in 1945 and 1946 for crimes against humanity.

Both halls of justice have three-tiered docks where multiple high-profile defendants are shackled to anchors in the floor by chains hidden from view, behind tables and podiums. Like the docks in Germany's Palace of Justice 60 years ago, the docks in Santa Ana this year have filled with self-avowed Nazis, Aryan warriors, and followers of Hitler.

But the Nazis standing accused in California are Nazis of a wholly different strain than Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal defendants like Hermann Goering and Rudolf Hess. They are white supremacist pimps, drug dealers and backstabbing shower-stall killers, glorified thugs with swastika tattoos. They covet power and oversee a criminal empire, but they are motivated less by furthering their die-hard racist ideology than satisfying their crude greed. They are the leaders of the Aryan Brotherhood (AB), the most notorious, powerful, and violent prison gang in America. Also known as the Brand or the Rock -- a reference to the Shamrock tattoos AB members favor in addition to Nazi insignia -- the gang in recent years has established criminal networks outside prison walls in cities, small towns, and suburbs across the country.

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and the cops say they can't stop them unless they can kill the ones that are in prison for life

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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 01:30 PM
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1. I'm not shocked
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 01:42 PM
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2. They are a good example of why respect and civility are better than "balls
"They are white supremacist pimps, drug dealers and backstabbing shower-stall killers, glorified thugs with swastika tattoos. They covet power and oversee a criminal empire, but they are motivated less by furthering their die-hard racist ideology than satisfying their crude greed....

"The white power thing is mostly just a good recruiting tool and a way to maintain structure and discipline," said Delgado. "These guys are more about making money than starting any kind of white revolution. They sell heroin to white people all the time. That's not very Aryan or brotherly of them."

Initiates to both factions swore lifelong allegiance to the gang with the same blood oath: "An Aryan brother is without a care/He walks where the weak and heartless won't dare/For an Aryan brother, death holds no fear/Vengeance will be his, through his brothers still here."
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 01:52 PM
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3. Not to be light about this . . .
. . . but do you think the asshole in the picture has a mullet?
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PerpetualWinter Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:16 PM
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5. Doesn't look like it...
but he does have a tattoo pretty close to one I plan on getting (no not the swastika :-P).
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 01:55 PM
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4. So who's responsible for the remaining 82%
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:28 PM
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7. I recon the other 99% of the prison population?
:shrug:
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:18 PM
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6. Wow
Edited on Tue Nov-22-05 02:21 PM by Loonman
Here I was thinking prison was mostly air hockey and crocheting. Oh yeah, white guilt, I'll get right on that.

I am guilty
I am guilty
I am...
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:31 PM
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8. Why would you feel any more guilt for these guys than say a black person
should because the bloods are mostly black and not a member? Give me a break...no one walks across the street to avoid you because you are white and there are aryan murders all over...
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:34 PM
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9. I thought is was all the reverse racism against you
Hard being white these days, is what you're saying?

:eyes:
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:56 PM
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10. Do you not see a difference
between yourself and white supremacists who form murderous groups?

Maybe you should read the article instead of spouting off nonsense - you might learn something.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 04:05 PM
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11. “This is a homicidal organization,” he said...
“That’s what they do. They kill people.”

He was accustomed, he explained, to murder cases, but he had been shocked by the gang’s brutality. “I suspect they kill more than the Mafia,” he said. “They kill more than any single drug trafficker. There are a lot of gang-related deaths on the streets, but they are usually more disorganized and random.” He paused, as if calculating various numbers in his head. “I think they may be the most murderous criminal organization in the United States.”

Thompson, who had only a high-school education, was being tailored for leadership. He was given many books, a curriculum that formed a kind of world view. He read Sun Tzu’s “The Art of War” and Machiavelli’s “The Prince.” He read Nietzsche, memorizing his aphorisms. (“One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly.”)

...Upon entering a new prison, Brand members would often carry out a “demonstration” killing or stabbing, in order to terrorize the inmate population. The Baron reportedly ordered that one foe be “taken out in front of everyone, to let these motherfuckers know we mean business.” Indeed, rather than conceal its murders, the gang flaunted them even in front of the guards, as if to show it had no fear of repercussions, of being shot or sentenced to life without parole. “We wanted people to think we were a little crazy,” Thompson said. “It was a way, like Nietzsche said, of bending space and reality to our will.”

Hmmm, Machiavelli - reminds me of another group... From an article in the New Yorker...

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/index.ssf?040216fa_fact6
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 05:56 PM
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12. "Prison murders plunge in US jails"
(The OP's statistic was from 1992)

The number of US prisoners who are murdered in jail or commit suicide has dropped dramatically since 1980, according to the government.
Murder in state prisons fell by more than 90% from 1980 to 2002, and suicide rates dropped by 60%.

Civil rights groups say the falling figures are due to a better separation of violent and non-violent inmates.

The report, compiled by the US justice department, compares death in custody in 1980 with 2002.

Murders in state prisons fell from 54 per 100,000 prisoners in 1980 to four per 100,000 in 2002, the department said.

It also found that, between 2001 and 2002, almost 43% of all prison murders happened in three states - California, Texas and Maryland."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4173046.stm


Also an article on Jessner prosecuting the Aryan Brotherhood:

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/05/11/features-duersten.php
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