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MsConduct Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 03:01 AM
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FASCISM...
http://mwcnews.net/media/flash/Fascism.html

It ain't just politics as usual.
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ronatchig Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 06:34 AM
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1. Indeed
The reality in America is that we are subjugated by Fascism. The leaders of the Fascist movement in this country are so comfortable with their grip on the American people, they are intent on exporting their rule to the rest of the world.
Without a concerted effort to throw off the shackles of oppression, it is only a matter of time before a new "final solution" will become necessary. Indeed the Fascist requires a group to vilify so that the rage built by the policies of the rulers can be redirected away from themselves.
While it is normal for people to seek comfort over freedom, the abdication of the peoples power in this country is a recipe for the utter destruction of every ideal we as a people have held sacred for generations.
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MsConduct Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:46 AM
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2. I'm in a state of constant shock these days. I can't believe
there are so many in this country who actually believe what's going on is just dandy. I had no idea there were so many blind and ignorant people either. I thought raygun, nixon, bush's 1 and 2 were the exception, not the 'norm'. I liked my fantasy world better.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:49 AM
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3. kicking for those who haven't seen this before
:kick:
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MsConduct Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 12:13 PM
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5. Thank you. n/t
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:55 AM
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4. Some of my friends get perturbed when I use the term "fascism"
But it is so obvious to me. Mussolini said we should call it "corporatism."

A good current example of this is the Medicare drug plan, which was written by and for Pharma. That's another example of Fascism.

I have challenged my friends to find a definition of fascism that excludes the Bush administration. So far, no takers.

--IMM
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MsConduct Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 12:18 PM
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6. People just don't want to know the truth. If they did, they might
have to do something about it.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 01:07 PM
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8. Yep. They would rather call me a commie pinko...
than face the truth.

--IMM
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MsConduct Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 07:23 PM
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10. Don't forget 'traitor' and 'terrorist lover'! n/t
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 12:28 PM
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7. Just ask yourself "Is this something Henry Ford would support?"
Edited on Sun Nov-20-05 12:37 PM by TahitiNut
Ignore, for a moment, that Henry once raised the pay of Ford Motor Company workers so they could buy their own products. Think instead of Henry hiring the Pinkertons to bust baseball bats over the heads of union workers and organizers. Think of Henry, along with Charles Lindbergh and Father Coughlin, extolling the virtues of Adolph Hitler and Benito Mussolini. (A portrait of Ford was hung at the Nazi party's headquarters in Munich.) Think of Henry writing an extensive tract about the "evils of International Jewry." Think of Henry as one of the foremost advocates of eugenics (core to the racial policies of Nazi Germany) - sterilization of genetically 'flawed' people - state controls over human reproduction equivalent to breeding cattle. Henry never believed that ordinary people had the 'natural right' to participate equally in their own governance. Henry believed that industrialists such as himself were 'naturally' better-equipped to decide what's best for America.


Henry Ford, center, is awarded the Grand Cross of the German Eagle by Nazi diplomats in 1938.
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MsConduct Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 07:21 PM
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9. Wow, that's an eye-opener! Thanks for the info. n/t
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:37 PM
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11. It's funny how many folks don't know that.
Edited on Sun Nov-20-05 11:40 PM by TahitiNut
It's also rather remarkable how much 'capitalism' has changed in such a short time. Henry realized something obvious. He realized that as long as he was buying sheet metal from another company, who was buying iron ore from another company and paying yet another company to ship it ... that Henry (the 'customer') was paying for not only the costs of mining, shipping, smelting, and rolling the product, he was also paying the profits of such enterprises. He figured on getting those profits for himself. So, he built the Rouge plant and bought the ore carriers and mines. Voila! "Vertical integration" of industry. Henry wasn't interested in sending profits to any other company ... or country!

Those were also the days when the industrialists effectively "owned" the banks, too. Manufacturers National Bank had such a heritage.

No longer. Now we have "borderless" ownership and conglomerates and overlapping boards of directors and globally institutionalized finance and shell companies. The goose of labor is laying golden eggs all over the planet for a very, very small (and getting smaller) group of "owners." Articles of incorporation are mere legal fictions, having very little to do with overall ownership and control -- but enormously facilitating the capital laundry that's global corporatism today.

All it took was two World Wars, several minor ones, and about 75 years.
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MsConduct Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 01:09 PM
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12. Fascinating (and sickening) stuff. Thank you for taking the time
to clue me in. Business, like higher math and physics, is a complete mystery to me. I feel a little smarter now!
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 01:12 PM
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13. And for Ford, the wage was just another way to control people
so he could keep on lining his pocket and abusing his power.
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