Anyone have the text of Murtha and Hunter bills??

[Rick Myers]

Not yet available from CBO, I'd like to see the differences.

[roguevalley]

1. I believe dailykos has them. www.dailykos.com

[Rick Myers]

2. Thanks RV!!!

[man4allcats]

3. This may help.

Check out Murtha and Hunter. In the Hunter link, click on the pdf link in the first sentence entitled "this astonishing resoulution."

[Historic NY]

4. from & earlier post.......

Murtha's REAL resolution:

Whereas Congress and the American People have not been shown clear, measurable progress toward establishment of stable and improving security in Iraq or of a stable and improving economy in Iraq, both of which are essential to "promote the emergence of a democratic government";

Whereas additional stabilization in Iraq by U, S. military forces cannot be achieved without the deployment of hundreds of thousands of additional U S. troops, which in turn cannot be achieved without a military draft;

Whereas more than $277 billion has been appropriated by the United States Congress to prosecute U.S. military action in Iraq and Afghanistan;

Whereas, as of the drafting of this resolution, 2,079 U.S. troops have been killed in Operation Iraqi Freedom;

Whereas U.S. forces have become the target of the insurgency,

Whereas, according to recent polls, over 80% of the Iraqi people want U.S. forces out of Iraq;

Whereas polls also indicate that 45% of the Iraqi people feel that the attacks on U.S. forces are justified;

Whereas, due to the foregoing, Congress finds it evident that continuing U.S. military action in Iraq is not in the best interests of the United States of America, the people of Iraq, or the Persian Gulf Region, which were cited in Public Law 107-243 as justification for undertaking such action;

Therefore be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That:

Section 1. The deployment of United States forces in Iraq, by direction of Congress, is hereby terminated and the forces involved are to be redeployed at the earliest practicable date.

Section 2. A quick-reaction U.S. force and an over-the-horizon presence of U.S Marines shall be deployed in the region.

Section 3 The United States of America shall pursue security and stability in Iraq through diplomacy.


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The Republican sham resolution: (Hunter)


RESOLUTION

Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that
the deployment of United States forces in Iraq be terminated immediately.

Resolved, That it is the sense of the House of Representatives that the deployment of United States forces
in Iraq be terminated immediately.

[neebob]

5. So what's a quick-reaction U.S. force?

And what's an over-the-horizon presence of U.S. Marines? Coulda sworn I heard Jack Murtha say something about needing a draft in the speech last night where he read his original resolution before they voted on the other one.

I'll admit I don't know much about this - in fact, as I said on another thread, I never heard of Jack Murtha until yesterday - but I need help understanding why anyone who's not a crusty old Republican buzzard would support this guy.

[Historic NY]

6. QRF...........

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/army/qrf.htm

He did mention a draft as a means of saying the armed forces need more people. He also acknowledged that a draft would not happen too. The army is woefully over extended and is now unable to recruit what it needs to keep up.

[neebob]

7. Thanks, that helps some

and in googling the other thing I learned Jack Murtha's a Democrat. Somehow I got the idea he was a Republican. So at least now I get why non-crusty old buzzard Republicans are supporting him. Never mind! :)