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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:31 PM
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OFFICIAL HOUSE THREAD #5
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 09:32 PM by LSK
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:33 PM
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1. You're the best - and fast too!
Thank you. :hug:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:34 PM
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8. This is a vote on the rules of the debate (150 dems say no--an hour
of debate for this important cause is NOT enough).
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:35 PM
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13. 27 seconds left
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:36 PM
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18. since when has THAT mattered to this rethug congress?
:eyes:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:36 PM
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19. mod is equally fast closing the old threads
Thanks mod! :thumbsup:
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:39 PM
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41. Happy to help, LSK! You're doing a great job!
:thumbsup:
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:33 PM
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2. What time does the vote close?
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:34 PM
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5. but he is
BLANCHE!
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:34 PM
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6. one more minute
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:34 PM
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10. Did I just hear this is the vote to end the discussion and they will have
ANOTHER vote on the resolution right after???
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:37 PM
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33. As they pointed out last night, the time set for the vote is a minimum
there is no maximum as they have proven time and time again.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:38 PM
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36. Do you think they'll replay this on Cspan tomorrow?
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:44 PM
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63. They might show highlights
They geared up a highlights tape and began showing it during the recess a while ago. They might do that again tomorrow.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:34 PM
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3. So now another hour of "debate"
before the Repubs vote For the resolution.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:34 PM
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4. Lets remember that the Hunter resolution is non-binding
So it's not like this would have actually gotten the troops out
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:35 PM
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15. This whole thing is "Drama"
It's an exercise in the Repubs calling the Dems Traitors and Cowards.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:34 PM
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7. Contact Rollcall: Let GOP lap dog Erin Billings have it!
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 09:36 PM by fearnobush
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:34 PM
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9. WTF, I hope like hell the dems vote for it, but I know they won't
This sucks

Announcer just said, that after this vote, they get to yell for an hour, then the actual vote takes place
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:35 PM
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11. Man, I tune out all the callers.
9 out of 10 are stupid or geeks. They need a nickname. How about 'Span Freeks?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:36 PM
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24. really. How dare anyone question anyone?
I mean really, after all , he is our President!
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Midnight Rambler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:37 PM
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Repub callers aren't even making any arguments
Support our troops, support our Commander-in-Chief. Oh my god, they are so brainwashed, it's not even funny anymore, it's just sad. They've got an IV drip full of Kool-Aid, and they keep pressing the button for more.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:38 PM
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37. Yes, but they sure get emotional. n/t
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GOPNotForMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:35 PM
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12. Shut up, Grandma.
Ugh, "I trust President Boosh."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:36 PM
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17. she prob. listens to Fox.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #12
20. Geez, I thot you were talking to me
wish I were watching this!!!
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GOPNotForMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:43 PM
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58. No, no way! Was talking to BushBotGrannie. nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:36 PM
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21. The fundie goons are busy
tonight.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:37 PM
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27. Is it wrong to hate such hatemongers like gramma killemall?
is that wrong?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:37 PM
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She said we united behind a Democrat president who lost
"a million" soldiers and we should do the same thing behind Bush.
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:35 PM
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14. Good work Lou!
You found your calling! :beer:

DK speaks for me!
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astonamous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:36 PM
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25. Compared Iraq invasion to WWII. Lawdy what an insulte to
WWII vets.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:37 PM
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28. glad you found us Paulie
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 09:38 PM by LSK
Ive come a long way from that "other" place lol :hi:
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:36 PM
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16. God where from out of the woodwork do they get these republican callins?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:36 PM
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26. time is out. dems were ahead till now.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:37 PM
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30. it is tied 185 to 185
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:36 PM
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22. I'm going to malloy in 30 minutes
liveoaktx, hope you're recording :hug:
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:36 PM
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23. love these old southern repubs who call in to c-span....
well i used to be a democrat, 'til they started helpin' all them niggras. now i'm a proud reagan republican and i just love george bush!
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:37 PM
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31. the worst one so far was that broad from Utah
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:37 PM
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29. Artist's Reconstruction Of The War Debate


I Hate Duncan Hunter!
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:40 PM
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43. hunter: "i'll teach you to mess with my menus!"
.
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IkeWarnedUs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:37 PM
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32. looks like time is up
When time was up the Nays had it - will they keep it open until they have enough votes and then cut it off?
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:39 PM
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39. they rarely close it after time is up.
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 09:40 PM by Endangered Specie
sort of like stoppage time in Soccer
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:37 PM
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34. 7 R's now against
Anyone get they're names? I'd like to thanks them!
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #34
35. back down to 6. Catch and release probably going on...
sigh.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:41 PM
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53. Bummer- some spineless pug.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:39 PM
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38. my screen still says 6
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:40 PM
Response to Reply #38
44. only dems
have "rhetoric", i guess
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mirror wall Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:39 PM
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40. So are there any good montages of all the screaming that apparently went
on today?

I heard a bit of it on NPR, but CSPAN.org is a mystery maze to me. I'm sure something will pop up on crooksandliars soon... But maybe there are other places to look?
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:40 PM
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45. OMG these callers
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 09:41 PM by Moochy
(R) are so scared. you can hear it in their voices, they are about to cry.

"Today is a day of reckoning" so the god warrior bitch says.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:42 PM
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56. The minute anyone says "nukular" they're branded as idiots imho n/t
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:40 PM
Response to Reply #40
46. I am so embarrassed
to live in Arizona. :/
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:39 PM
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42. What is the tally?? I cant read it!!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:40 PM
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47. 202 Yea 202 Nay 30 votes left
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:41 PM
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48. 202 to 202 n/t
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:41 PM
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49. Y:203 - N:202
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 09:41 PM by Endangered Specie
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:41 PM
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50. 203 yay 202 nay now n/t
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:42 PM
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tied 203 - 203
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:43 PM
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59. repubs who voted with dems
Simpson
Jones
hostetler
gilchrest

and one more...I missed it.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:44 PM
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64. gilchrest is Maryland....isn't hosteltler Md too?
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:45 PM
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66. oops no Indiana
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:41 PM
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51. Gawd .....shut this lady up!!!
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:42 PM
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57. new it was a repuke by the stupid slow talk...had left room for a
minute and got irritated just from the stupidity oozing from her voice
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #51
70. They gave her lots of time to ramble on
and as usual, she was uninformed. What a waste of long distance lines!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:41 PM
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52. can someone tell this stupid b*tch caller
to STFU?" had to turn the volume down on the idiocy.
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thefloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:41 PM
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54. The lady
on the phone is crazy. Nuclear bombs. No more dictators in Middle East? Jesus. Whole Middle East filled with Dictators
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #54
65. Doesn't it inspire you to want to go door-to-door
seeking out these people and try to talk reason into them?

that's my first response to hearing this idiocy. they just haven't been exposed to the truth in a long time
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #65
71. and they are scurrred
really scurred.
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thefloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #65
78. I agree
Her voice and reason were based on fear. You could tell just based on her voice. She is still drinking the Rove kool aid
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:42 PM
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55. The "Memorandum".
Wow. That's some uneducated koolaid. Tried to use some big fancy words... d'oh.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:43 PM
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60. The vote on "consideration of the Resolution" from earlier is up
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:43 PM
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61. 5 of the Republicans voting nay:
simpson IN
jones ID
hostetler IN.
gilcrest MD
leech IA
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #61
69. crap
lost one of the repubs

204 - 202
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:44 PM
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62. the democrats are united
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #62
72. they need to walk out together, the dems and repugs that support
their position. its the only way. Unless of course I am not getting something here.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #62
79. Indeed!!!
Everything the GOP does is a positive. Their efforts will just get turned on its head. They are not just fighting the DEMS, they are fighting everybody, reality itself. I am glad to read some of the Dems responses to the GOP's tactics.

Things are looking up!
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:45 PM
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67. So, what this vote really means is
that Repukes are supportive of a "RUSH TO JUDGEMENT"

idiots
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:47 PM
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76. good way to frame it
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:45 PM
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68. someone jumped ship
Like a stupid little kid who wants to be popular.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:47 PM
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wonder who it was.
I'm pretty sure it's not Walter Jones.
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #68
77. they just told them
their name was just read on Cspan and they soiled.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #77
83. yeah, cleanup crew on the right side of the aisle
Brownout in progress.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #68
80. Well, I can say I am sure it was not Walter Jones. n/t
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GOPNotForMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:47 PM
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73. Did that one psycho AZ woman actually say that ...
we ("the left") love gangs?

When did I miss that meme? Oooh, can we make that part of the '06 platform? "More Gangs. Stronger Gangs."
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:47 PM
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74. Arm twisting...
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 09:47 PM by Stand and Fight
The Republicans got someone to change their vote! From 203 - 203 to 204 - 202 with 22 NV on Republican side and 6 NV on Democratic side.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:47 PM
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75. repubs will have to make this fail by one vote, so they can claim that...
"we tried, but those unpatriot dems wouldn't let us bring y'all home. nevermind that this thing was non-binding."
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:49 PM
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81. this is not the final vote
ITs a vote to continue debate. I was fooled too. Rules of the House lol
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:49 PM
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82. It looks like the repubs are passing it to me.
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 09:50 PM by K-W
That is the procedural vote. They will vote against the resolution and not pretend to support it. They are not trying to give anyone the impression they will bring the troops home.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:50 PM
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85. Is this vote time being extended??>
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #75
84. fight!
fight!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:51 PM
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88. I think they just cheated on the time again!
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:51 PM
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87. The Yeas have it -- 205 to 202.... No changing... 210 to 202...
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 09:51 PM by Stand and Fight
There is a ruckus going on now.

Who the hell is cackling like the Emperor from Star Wars.... More votes coming in now -- all have been ayes.

The ayes seem to have the vote. The Republicans will get their stunt...

210 to 202... The motion to reconsider is pursuant upon the table.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:52 PM
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90. It Doesn't Matter... Integrity and Truth Trumps Perception
...all in time. The public already lost trust in the GOP. Only their base will believe this was a good move by the House Retards, just for it's adolescent demeanor.
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:52 PM
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94. 210-202
resolution is adopted. motion to reconsider laid on the table, HR 308 adopted.

There will now be an hour of debate before final vote on Duncan's resolution:

HR 572 will now be considered "Expressing the sense of the House that the deployment of U.S. forces in Iraq be terminated immediately.

Hyde (R-IL) and Lantos (D-?) get 30 mins.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:51 PM
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86. 210 - 202 Yeas have it
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:52 PM
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92. gee o whole hour for this serious deadly debate. how stupid!
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:51 PM
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89. So what's the downside of dems voting aye to the resolution?
it won't pass, of course, but why shouldn't they just vote fot it?
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:52 PM
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91. okay, here's the real one.
.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:52 PM
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93. oh geez, they've wheeled hyde out of the crypt!
!
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:53 PM
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95. Thread number 6 is up and ready
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