OFFICIAL HOUSE THREAD #2

[LSK]

#1 here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5398420&mesg_id=5398420

[rodeodance]

1. thanks for this thread.-------Miller (repug)---is having a fit now.

[rodeodance]

3. ==says Irag is making remarkable progress.

[evirus]

god

god im going to vote her out in a year shes terrable, i posted in the other thread why

[ncrainbowgrrl]

Thanks for helping to get her out of the house!!

:patriot:

[Cats Against Frist]

4. I cannot stand her -- glad that was short.

[rodeodance]

17. she sure talked fast (wanted her 2 cents in).

[rodeodance]

25. getting a lot of ---the Dems said....dah dah dah

[FreedomAngel82]

56. Don't they all?

[KingFlorez]

2. Other thread got kind of big

[rodeodance]

6. are Dems going to vote with the Repugs as Palosi requested?

[LSK]

7. we will probably have 3 or 4 threads on this tonite

[dweller]

38. and that Kucinich praise !!! ...hoo boy

can't have that here.

dp

[mattomjoe]

5. "Why didn't he just plant the WMDs?"

fucking moran....

:banghead:

[rodeodance]

8. rhetorical comment by the Repug

[RepublicanElephant]

11. yeah, she should ask val plame about that. n/t

.

[KingFlorez]

15. The answer is

You thought of it too late. They'd have planted it in a minute if they could.

[Sydnie]

16. that is a question my 13 year old asked ... shows where their intellectual

abilities can be measured, huh?

[Greeby]

9. Unintentional truth there, that Repuke just now:

"Why didn't the President just plant WMDs while he was at it?"

Sarcastic snide remark against Dems, but it's a good question :think:

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[MelissaB]

12. I'm saying it again...Tonight I'm a black woman and a man from Ohio.

God, I love these people!

:woohoo:

[FreedomAngel82]

62. Mel Watt was awesome

:D

[AuntPatsy]

13. This partisan sdie show dividing our nation, so true..no name

[LSK]

14. an honest republican? LOL

[DearAbby]

18. Walk the hell out.

When the Pigs are ready to continue with THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS, Otherwise dont plan their game. WALK OUT!

[LSK]

19. Duncan Hunter will not vote for his own resolution

[Coexist]

a "proud veteran"

Ooh - contrasting Murtha and Hunter's resolutions.

Hmmm... this is getting interesting.

[RepublicanElephant]

20. why with friends like this guy, murtha doesn't need enemies.

!

[Cats Against Frist]

21. Renza wants to sell me a car

What a slimy-looking guy.

[LSK]

24. bring out the quotes from 1994 lol

[evirus]

could they

could they just pool are their time to dennis and have him yell tell he blows up? hopefuly that would shut everyone up.... probably not though

[uppityperson]

33. I would love to hear that.

not to have him blow up though, just be very very verbal.

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. This is the debate we needed to have BEFORE OIF

[GOPNotForMe]

23. Rick Renzi reminds me of a used car salesman.

No offense to any here of course.

[KingFlorez]

28. He reminds me of Stan Zbornak

Dorothy's husband on the Golden Girls

[KingFlorez]

26. Hey, Rick Renzi, where Katherine Harris?!?!!

Shouldn't you be canoodling with her?

[rodeodance]

29. was it wise for Palosi to say to vote with the Repugs?

[LSK]

32. we dont know she said that

Its rumors.

[rodeodance]

37. here--read this story

I missed most of what went on today and am confused.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/24hour/front/story/2915302p-11577199c.html
House GOP seeks quick veto of Iraq pullout

By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer
Friday, November 18th, 2005 03:13 PM (PST)


WASHINGTON (AP) - House Republicans maneuvered for swift rejection Friday of any notion of immediately pulling U.S. troops out of Iraq, sparking a nasty, sometimes personal debate over the war and a Democratic lawmaker's own call for withdrawal.
Furious Democrats accused the GOP of orchestrating a political stunt, leaving little time for debate and changing the meaning of a withdrawal resolution offered by Democratic Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania.

For those reasons, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi sent word to rank-and-file Democrats to vote - with the Republicans - against immediate withdrawal of American troops.

Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., said of the nonbinding resolution, "We want to make sure that we support our troops that are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. We will not retreat."

[LSK]

39. we'll see what they do

[rodeodance]

47. yes, we will--but Pelosi says this GOP resolution changes the meaning

on Murtha's resolution.


Furious Democrats accused the GOP of orchestrating a political stunt, leaving little time for debate and changing the meaning of a withdrawal resolution offered by Democratic Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania.

For those reasons, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi sent word to rank-and-file Democrats to vote - with the Republicans - against immediate withdrawal of American troops.

[FreedomAngel82]

70. I remember that video

Ew. "Hatred for the president of the United states"? Asshole! Why is Rep Slaughter called on and than she yields?

[Greeby]

27. Quote the Clinton cabinet? Typical

:eyes:

[Greeby]

30. Rahm Emmanuel

nt

[LSK]

31. and Kerry has a plan too

[hippiechick]

34. Argh. Rahm.

Dude, you lost all cred with me with that comment this morning ....

:puke:

[LSK]

35. what he say?

[uppityperson]

36. we appropriated and didn't ask the questions.

americans have asked us to stand up and ask questions. our soldiers deserve a policy of something and oversight

[LSK]

40. THE ENEMY WASNT IN IRAQ

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. Details, details, you care for details?

:sarcasm:

[uppityperson]

41. Joe Wilson (R, NC) is here as a parent?

hey, many of us are parents. Face the enemy overseas rather than here in america..

[LSK]

42. ask the British about his logic

[ncrainbowgrrl]

71. R-SOUTH CAROLINA.

He's not from NC.

[CBHagman]

102. He's parroting Frank Luntz talking points.

I read about 18 months ago that Frank Luntz, the pollster, came up with the "we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" shtick. It's a dangerous and foolish claim to make, as "fighting them over there" didn't help the people of Bali, London, and Madrid. In fact, it's totally illogical.

God forbid that anything should happen here, but the Iraq war actually increased the danger, rather than diminishing it.

[K-W]

44. Why is no one talking about Afghanistan?

BECAUSE THIS IS A RESOLUTION ABOUT IRAQ YOU TWIT

[FreedomAngel82]

87. When I heard that

I wanted to bang my head against my computer screen. Doy!

[RepublicanElephant]

45. ...and that's why we should have STAYED AND FINISHED the job...

in afghanistan.

now both countries are a mess.

[HereSince1628]

46. Dems seem to have a long summary planned.

[spanone]

48. Who's this dick from Iowa? Afghanistan is where the Taliban was.

Jeez this is one SMF

[LSK]

49. habitat of terrorist breeding??? THERE WAS NONE IN IRAQ

NOW ITS GROUND ZERO.

[uppityperson]

50. Kin (r, Iowa) why no one complaining about lives lost in Afghanistan?

erased some of the habitat that breed terror. free people don't go to war against free people. not attacked here since 911 for good reasons, can't seperate the troops from the mission, can't support the troops and not the mission, blah blah blah

[K-W]

Did King just argue that we should stay because it will be like vietnam?

I dont think he meant to, but quoting Sadr promising that we will leave like we left in Vietnam really doesnt help the victory argument.

[stop the bleeding]

51. WTF was that from the Senate? n/t

[rodeodance]

66. it was one of those 'quant' rules--to let the House know what the Senate

is doing.

[RepublicanElephant]

52. hey the entire gop civil rights policy was just announced...

...a statue for rosa parks.

hoorah!

[Solly Mack]

53. Now Rosa Parks was fighting for our freedom

the troops in Iraq AND Afghanistan are NOT.

They're just dying for nothing.

[uppityperson]

54. Biggert (R, Illinois)

immediate withdrawal from Iraq, will support.

[spanone]

55. C'mon Dems....the clock is ticking. Get your asses up to the mic.

[stop the bleeding]

It isn't who beats their chests loudest/hardest it is who beats their

chests last and think she is reserving her time for a final statement from Murtha

[LSK]

57. shes letting all the repukes go at once

I guess so we dont get cut-off in our rants when its our time.

[Sydnie]

64. She wants the closest last word possible

makes sense to me.

[FreedomAngel82]

104. Good idea!

[Greeby]

58. Tancredo? Shouldn't you be off nuking Mecca about now?

:puke:

[Stand and Fight]

59. Judy Biggert is a moron.

She just brought up how she talked to a woman who lost her son and a body guard, and how Americans take these sorts of freedoms for granted...

Tell me this -- just how many here have the money for a bodyguard? That's one freedom I've never had and hopefully will never have to experience.

[KingFlorez]

60. Crazy ass Tom is up!

Tancredo needs to be in the psych ward, not the House

[nadinbrzezinski]

61. wow I am impressed, the list sounds out of... wait for it

Vietnam 1973

[mtnester]

63. Tancredo - if ALL he says is DONE

then he makes the case for us to LEAVE! Turn it around on this stupid Repub

[HereSince1628]

69. Good point...

[uppityperson]

65. and iraqi kids have soccer balls!

check out snopes for this "did you know" bs. Tancredo

Did you know... No, I didn't because it ain't true! Did you know black is white? now, all he needs is "unpatriotic"

[uppityperson]

77. ended with "don't let your hatred of bush get in the way of best for usa"

[lyonn]

96. There they go again, telling all that the Dems only hate

Bush and that is what this whole issue is about!! My gawd, this is more GOP trash talk.

[Stand and Fight]

67. Crazy Crazy Tom Tancredo is up -- what a nut. n/t

[rodeodance]

'do not let your hatred of Bush get in the way of your love of this countr

something like that says one repug.

[AuntPatsy]

68. Oh tom Tancredo, Did you know that more than half of Iraq

citizens are without running water, electricity, jobs, proper medical care?

He is so full of it, making it look like iraq is nothing short of one of the finest cities in this world?

[AuntPatsy]

72. Oh my god, now he says this is all because they hate the prez?

Why is this always about him personaly?

sorry, much going on here, and trying to give infor and watch the television at the same time..

[stop the bleeding]

73. I thought Iraq was a country? n/t

[AuntPatsy]

84. It is, but he mentioned cities in the country. of iiraq

[Coexist]

76. it reminded me of those "The More You Know" PS spots!

LOL.

[AuntPatsy]

90. So true...seriously though, I think they are trying to spin this all

as being personal against the president?

[LSK]

74. Walter Jones is lost??????

[KingFlorez]

81. He's opposed to the war now

[LSK]

83. yeah, just assumed

He is lost i guess.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

103. Nope, I think he found his way...On this topic, anyway.

He is standing up where many would not. Good for him for finding his voice on this topic.

[Solly Mack]

75. What mission? Tell me what the "mission" is?

People keep saying "mission" and "continue the course" ...but what is the mission, what is the course?

[Greeby]

78. Walter Jones speaking for our side

:woohoo:

[ncrainbowgrrl]

79. Walter Jones ("Freedom Fries") up- yielded to from Democratic side.

[Stand and Fight]

80. Rep. Walter Jones is up speaking on Dem. time...

One of the good Republicans.

Kind of reminds me of the term given to Hitler's architect -- "the good Nazi."

[Bill McBlueState]

82. huh, Dems give time to Jones (R-NC)

interesting.

[KingFlorez]

85. He wants exit strategy

[Stand and Fight]

86. He's one of the good ones... Do your homework, Bill. n/t

[stop the bleeding]

I'm surprised he is still alive n/t

[Bill McBlueState]

93. dude, what the hell.

I know who Walter Jones is.

[nadinbrzezinski]

88. There are still some good ones

and quoting Governor Bush, ironic, yes, irony will be missed on the rest though

[libnnc]

89. he's been outspoken for a timetable and withdawl from Iraq

he and Ron Paul are the only two R's who have criticized the administration.

edit to add:

He's from "down east" NC, and I believe represents folks around the big military bases here in NC

[vickitulsa]

91. Zel Miller's "good twin"??

[FreedomAngel82]

92. Walter Jones just quoted Bush on Clinton and the time table

Wow! And he was a republican? Not an attack on any member of the body? Duh! Stupid! Why are they doing this NOW THAN?

[Idioteque]

99. Not only is he a Republican, he is the freedom fries guy!

He is also one of the nicest people in Washington who always votes with his heart.

[Stand and Fight]

94. Rep. Phil Gingrey is flustered!!

What an idiot.

Islamofascist... Terrorist... Islamofascist... Terrorist... Islamofascist... Terrorist... Islamofascist... Terrorist...

Fight them there so we don't have to fight them here. Translation -- let the brown people die!

[greekspeak]

101. The puke he yielded to asked it be stricken.

Harsh

[K-W]

95. Those Islamo-facists are so bad I cant even take it!!!! EOM

[LSK]

100. and they want your freedom!!!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

97. Islamo fascism... I was waiting for the talking point

[uppityperson]

98. islamo-fascists?????!

:rofl: boooooooooooooo

[KingFlorez]

107. They crack me up!

These fools should do stand up comedy with they're stupid talk!

[Greeby]

105. Gene Green

nt

[Sydnie]

106. New thread please .. thanks LSK n/t =-)

[LSK]

108. you wish is my command :)

[Greeby]

109. Gibbons? ho boy

:puke:

[ncrainbowgrrl]

110. Locking- time for thread #3

It's over here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5399242