I want the Democrats to vote "yes" for PEACE

[Generic Other]

I want them to stand up for their beliefs. For my beliefs.

I want an end to this war that Republicans started under false pretenses. If they want to call it cutting and running, that's fine. For them it is.

For me it is the righting of a great wrong. When this war ends, I will hold my head high, because I have opposed it with all my might every single day since the first pre-emptive strike, the first civilian casualty, the first dead American soldier.

I stand for PEACE. And I will stand proudly next to anyone in Congress who votes to end this war.

[goodhue]

1. me too

I want Democrats to vote YES to ending illegal and immoral war in Iraq!
Call the bluff!

[jsamuel]

2. The problem is their beliefs and your beliefs aren't necessarily exactly

the same

[Generic Other]

3. 70% percent of the American people oppose this war

Where is our representation?

[Mr_Spock]

4. Cool - me too. Hopefully they will allow Murtha's resolution some day!

I will support that!

[Generic Other]

5. I am sick of playing politics, strategy games and brinksmanship

I don't think I can bear see Dems go on record twice as supporting Bush's war (even with fingers crossed behind their backs). This is breaking my heart.

[Mr_Spock]

7. We should play to thier childish stunt then?

Yikes!

[Generic Other]

8. Anything that brings this illegal occupation to an end

I support. They have been hearing from me for 4 years demanding an end to this war. I have not changed my position.

[Mr_Spock]

9. So if the Democrats all vote yes, we will start pulling troops out?

Ya think?

[Generic Other]

19. Seems like it would bring us a step closer than voting "NO"

Ah, what the hell. Why do I give a damn? Might as well just give up entirely.

[Mr_Spock]

23. The debate tonight is a victory that will speed things up!

The sham vote is irrelevant at this point and an unneeded risk for the Dems since there is no chance of success.

[Generic Other]

24. It's not a sham to stand up for the truth!! This war is immoral, illegal

and a low point in the history of our country. I am so ashamed.

[Mr_Spock]

25. Oh, well - can't help ya then.

Idealism doesn't rule the day when the evil people are in control :shrug:

[Generic Other]

26. I can't tell who the evil people are anymore

The line is being blurred.

[Mr_Spock]

27. I feel for ya...

You are not seeing the need to have Dems in Congress in the future verses your need for a resolution - which was NOT Murtha's according to him. Why should the Dems vote for a joke resolution?

[Generic Other]

28. Because what we have done in Iraq is not a joke

Both sides have blood on their hands. And it's spilling onto me.

I object!! No in thunder!!

[LSK]

6. me too

We need to let the world know that we are the opposition party.

[Winston702]

10. Stand up for Principles

Vote to end the war - Bring them home NOW

[newyawker99]

39. Hi Winston702!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[AuntPatsy]

11. You do realize that if the dems voted yea they would still lose?

The stack is against them, at this time until more can be brought to the table, they must walk out and NOT vote period...

Otherwise we will lose all.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

13. What will we lose?

Seriously, I'm not being a smart ass. What do we now hold that we would lose?

[AuntPatsy]

15. We will lose the right to fight for a reliable time table to bring the

troops home if this vote is lost...

Its what they have wanted since the beginning, they know they have the majority vote, have you seen us win one yet?

[Lone_Star_Dem]

17. We don't have that right now, do we?

They hold all the power, we have none.

I think we should just let them have all the blood on their hands to go along with that power.

[Winston702]

12. Vote On Priciple

The truth is the truth. Why play politics with peoples lives. Do we need to play politics so more can be shot, more tortured, more secret concentration camps, more chemical weapons on civilians?

Enough is enough, end it now.

[Armstead]

14. This is a REPUBLICAN Poison PILL

No way should the Democrats vote "yes" on this.

It is a totally empty poison pill.

[Generic Other]

22. Why poison? More poisonous to be war criminals as we all are now

Time to have a conscience Armstead.

[Armstead]

40. It's not about conscience

If you've read any of my posts, you should recognize that I have no problem with such symbolic stands -- such as opposing a pre-ordained Supreme Court nominee on principle.

But in this particular case, there is no way to make a legitimate point by voting for a GOP mousetrap like that bill was.

[Swamp Rat]

16. peace

:)

[Generic Other]

20. Those of us who have 100% right all along will still be right

once our leadership votes once again against their own consciences.

Voting "no" on this resolution is supporting an illegal occupation. Anyone who votes twice to back a war they don't support are betraying themselves.

[Swamp Rat]

29. I just watched the debate on CSPAN.

The rethuglican veterans who were saying "stay the course" or "peaceniks and Democrats embolden the enemy," etc. are without shame. :puke:

[Generic Other]

30. Embolden the enemy!

I did not have any enemies until Bush came along.

[Swamp Rat]

31. "Embolden the enemy!"

Something a DUer just said:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5401066

[Generic Other]

32. Damn, are you trying to make my heart stop, SR?

WTF? Double the troop strength?

Are we on DU now to become the biggest cheerleaders for the war as a strategy to get us out of the war? Oh my god. There's not enough toxic kool-aid in Texas to get me on board with that idea!!!

[Swamp Rat]

37. Well, Rep. Sam Johnson was serving Kool-Aid in Congress just an hour ago.

US House, in Republican tactic, defeats Iraq pullout
19 Nov 2005 04:17:20 GMT
Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON, Nov 18 (Reuters) - In a maneuver designed to discredit Iraq war critics, the Republican-led House of Representatives overwhelmingly defeated a resolution on Friday to pull U.S. troops immediately from Iraq.

Republicans, who introduced the surprise resolution hours before lawmakers were to start a Thanksgiving holiday recess, said the vote was intended to show backing for U.S. forces.

Democrats denounced it as a political stunt and an attack on Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania, a leading Democratic military hawk who stunned his colleagues on Thursday by calling for troops to be withdrawn as quickly as possible.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N18156175.htm

[Generic Other]

38. We have become what we hate

If we were going to lose no matter what, seems it would have been sensible to err on the side of what was right.

[Generic Other]

33. dupe n/t

[Lone_Star_Dem]

18. I'm taking my stand for peace tonight

No more games, no more political maneuvering. All I want is peace.

[robbedvoter]

21. Me too!

[DanCa]

34. I want my ragged flag to wave proudly for peace as she was meant to.

It's a grand old flag, a high flying flag, and for ever in peace my she wave. A symbol of the land I love. That is my america, and I have enough of the republican bs. I want my country back..

[Generic Other]

35. Hear Hear!!

Our flag. Our blood. Our consciences. Not negotiable.

[Generic Other]

36. McKinney, Wexler and Serrano voted "YES"

:patriot: