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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:42 PM
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official House thread #3 - CSPAN
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:42 PM
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1. i hate Phil Gingrey, i'm just wanted to say that again.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:43 PM
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Well said indee.

He is Gollum with a mustache.
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:45 PM
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14. Yea his the Rhett Butler wannabe from Georgia.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:43 PM
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Okay, what just happened? n/t
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:45 PM
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16. I was watching and I'm so confused. They are counting some votes now. n/t
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:43 PM
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7. Did they just give that vote to the yeas instead of the neas?
Did I just hear that right?

Peace.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:44 PM
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11. yes, Gingrey asked for the yeas and nays recorded.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:44 PM
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10. I hate Gingrey & Kingston. They shame my state. :( n/t
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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:45 PM
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19. So do I
He is disgusting and unfortunately from Georgia.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:43 PM
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2. ok, now they are voting on whether it can be brought to the floor
Is that it?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:44 PM
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9. Wether it can be voted on the same day it's introduced. n/t
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:43 PM
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3. Yeas and nays requested...15 minute vote.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:43 PM
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4. Yeas and nays requested. Why is the Repub guy talking at light speed?
Lots of yelling from the Democrats. This feels bad. :(
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:45 PM
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23. He sounds like an auctioneer.n/t
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:46 PM
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28. That is exactly what he sounded like. It's shameful. n/t
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:46 PM
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25. Proof positive the fix is in, The Republican Corruption machine
is steadily grinding it's greasy wheels on our nations democracy...
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:43 PM
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5. was it defeated? was it was it?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:43 PM
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6. That pile of shit from Georgia needs to be pooper scooped
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:17 PM
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97. I'll get G. Gordon Liddy to pooper scoop that pile of shit from Georgia.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:22 PM
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I dunno...they might breed
and create an even bigger pile of shit
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:44 PM
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8. YEA 34 NAY 77
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:45 PM
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17. I showed up to the party late - what exactly was this resolution?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:44 PM
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12. this is not the final vote
This is a vote to vote on it today.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:46 PM
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29. Didn't he say
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 05:47 PM by mutley_r_us
"This is a vote on the resolution as amended"? Or did I misunderstand? He was talking so damn fast!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:47 PM
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31. i think everyone is confused.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:53 PM
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54. I think I'm confused.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:58 PM
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63. Okay, they're voting to see if they are allowed to vote on the
resolution on the same day it was introduced.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:58 PM
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65. this is not the final vote
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 05:58 PM by LSK
It is a procedural vote whether is can be moved to the floor to be discussed further and voted on today. They do this often with bills.
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evirus Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:44 PM
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13. we are on number 3 hmmm
why dont they just add a house and senate section to the forum and have all the threads from a previous session moved to an archive section
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:46 PM
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30. this doesnt always happen
But this is a HUGE debate going on. We get these massive threads on special events a few times a year.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:45 PM
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Not one Dem has voted YEA yet
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:45 PM
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Not one Dem has voted YEA yet
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:45 PM
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15. Whats the vote looking like, Tv-watchers?
This Brit only has the tiny internet screen to use
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:45 PM
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18. Dems seem united so far. 86 nays.
4 Repubs voted nay.

As of 5:45pm.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:45 PM
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20. The callers are amazing
"Since when does an email ... guide how they should conduct their business?" Great question.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:47 PM
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34. Yeah, caught that one. Good call.
Still haven't quite figured out what's going on and unfortunately, have to leave for awhile.

Keep the threads, going - please, so I don't miss too much.

Thanks.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:45 PM
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21. Not one Dem has voted YEA yet
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:45 PM
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22. I just gor home and put on c-span - lemme make sure I have this straight
They are NOT voting on the actual resolution right now, correct?

What is the amendment or whatever they are voting on now?

Thanks!
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:50 PM
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41. I think they're voting on whether or not they can debate today.
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 05:51 PM by CottonBear
Hmm. 2 Republican callers in a row and now a conservative is calling on the Democratic line but maybe she's OK...she's talking about (depleted) Uranium poisoning of the troops in Iraq...hosts pretends he doesn't know about it...
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:53 PM
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50. Thanks!
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:51 PM
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44. Currently voting on whether or not they can bring a resolution for a vote
the same day it's introduced. Vote currently Rep 86 yea 6 nays. Dems 0 yea 113 nays. Total yea 86 nay 117
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:53 PM
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52. Thanks!
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Kralizec Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:46 PM
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24. Good call from a former military member.
He made a good point that the repukes should not be using an email of a Lance Corporal to guide them.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:47 PM
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32. "For someone to think that Bush lied...people have to be crazy"
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 05:48 PM by Hobarticus
"To blame the President, and tell our troops they're there for a lie, is a terrible thing"

Guzzle that Kool-Aid, big fellah
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:54 PM
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56. No to lie and tell our troops they are in Iraq to protect Americans
IS A TERRIBLE THING!

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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:57 PM
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59. Damn straight, mzmolly... n/t
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:46 PM
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26. Didn't C-Span just mischaracterize Murtha's amendment?
I thought I heard "immediate withdrawal" attached to his name.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:52 PM
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45. What happened is Duncan Hunter (Repug) put this bill up...
... saying what he thought Murtha meant.

It recharacterizes what Murtha said, requesting immediate withdrawal. It's an attempt to frame the Dems as 'cut and run' cowards, basically. In fact, Jean Schmidt(R-OH) basically called Murtha a coward, and had to apologize.
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:46 PM
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27. We won the voice
vote, will we win the numders vote?
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:47 PM
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33. Dems voting unanimously NO now.
YEA 48 NAY 94
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:48 PM
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35. 4 Republican NAYS so far...
this one will be close.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:50 PM
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40. Now 5.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:49 PM
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36. 58yea/97nay
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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:49 PM
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37. The mental defectives are out of the woodwork now
Democrats are traitors blah blah blah...
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:49 PM
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38. it's idiot call in time!!!!
Yippeeeeeee!!!!

with a few people who are paying attention in between
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insanity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:52 PM
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47. Exchange of the day
"Uranium posioning.... Where does that come from?"
"From uranium"
"Thank you caller"
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:54 PM
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55. I heard that
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:58 PM
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66. No kidding
That one guy's accent sounded like Chalabi, and he called the 'libral' Democrats communists.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:00 PM
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72. Got to wonder how they cross the street by themselves
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:49 PM
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39. Do I have this right? This vote is to...
...agree to changing the same-day vote rule, so they can vote on hastert's resolution in support of the troops tonight. Democrats don't want that, they want to vote on the resolution for immediate U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq.

8 minutes remain
67 yea (all republicans)
99 nay (97 dems, 5 republicans)
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:50 PM
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42. Another Repuke voting NAY! (5)
Dems unanimously voting NO (100)
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jane_pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:52 PM
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46. No wait..6!
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 05:52 PM by jane_pippin
it's 93 yea, 127 nay
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:52 PM
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48. 93-126
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:51 PM
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43. Please stop supporting my soldier you idiots
your support is killing people
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:58 PM
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64. I know this is heartfelt, but it still makes me chuckle...
Please, ANYBODY but the GOP, support my soldier.

:hi:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:02 PM
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77. Well, it is so sad it's funny
so I understand the chuckle. :hi:
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:07 PM
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91. Bless your soldier, Solly...bring 'em all home safe
:pals:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:08 PM
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94. Thank you. Yes, bring them all home safe and sound!
:hug:
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:52 PM
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49. 93 yea, 127 nay.
And 6 Republican dissenters at the moment. I'm loving this.
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:53 PM
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51. Yea 99 nay 134 n/t
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:53 PM
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53. The Republicans are holding back their votes....
common practice I assume.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:54 PM
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57. the media won't explain that this was the Republican resolution
that Dems are voting down.

It really is a new low point in more than
9 years of lowball Republican politics.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:56 PM
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58. Why are idiots allowed phones?
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:04 PM
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82. you'd think c-span voters would be smarter ...
:shrug:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:06 PM
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88. No kidding!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:57 PM
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60. Vietnam vet REPUBLICAN supporting the DEMOCRATS!!!
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:57 PM
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61. Yea 162 nay 172
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:59 PM
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67. Repugs still have 56 votes left; Dems 31 n/t
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:59 PM
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68. Hopefully more Repukes will not vote than Dems.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:58 PM
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62. We didn't support Patton? What Kansas history book is he reading from?
DAMN ... and these people can VOTE!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:59 PM
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69. he also said we should pull out when the goal is reached
WHAT IS THE GOAL?!?!?!?
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:59 PM
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70. 183yea/189nay
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:00 PM
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71. that moron did not just compare Iraq to the Civil War
No - I didn't hear that correctly....I could not have. No one is that dumb.
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thefloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:01 PM
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74. Oh no even more absurd
Caller states "What would happen if we retreated from the Civil War"
Jesus.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:03 PM
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80. I know! My husband rolled when he said that!
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:01 PM
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73. 202-202
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:02 PM
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76. Can't believe it. nt
204 Rep. 202 Dems
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:02 PM
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78. Republican votes are changing from nay to yea....
Pressure is being applied...
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:03 PM
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81. The Dems' vote is unanimous. They've made a strong statement here.
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:01 PM
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75. yea 202 nay 202 votes left Rep 22 Dems 7
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:03 PM
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79. we lost vietnam - how do you guys feel about our rulers the vietcong???
:sarcasm:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:04 PM
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84. LMAO
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:04 PM
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83. 209yea/203nay
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:04 PM
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85. ergh
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:04 PM
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86. yea 211 nay 203 votes left repugs 14 dems 6 n/t
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:05 PM
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87. Yea wins.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:06 PM
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89. so it passed? vote tonite?
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:07 PM
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92. yep
ugh
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:07 PM
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93. hour of debate, then vote. n/t
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:07 PM
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90. Read this
Whereas, Congress and the American People have not been shown clear, measurable progress toward establishment of stable and improving security in Iraq or of a stable and improving economy in Iraq, both of which are essential to "promote the emergence of a democratic government";

The GOP can't afford a debate on whether the war has been waged badly, and whether securing the region would require enough more troops to require a draft. Hence the desperate deception about this being "Murtha's Resolution".

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2005/11/murtha_res_upda.html#more

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:22 PM
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98. This is going to backfire on the Republicans.
Just watch. Their poll numbers just got lower as they attempt to contain dissent which is essential to our democracy.
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LondonReign2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:12 PM
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95. What are all these other bills they are talking about??
They've come back from the vote and started in on other bills??
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:14 PM
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96. they are just getting them out of the way
They were supposed to cover those bills anyways.
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