Don't get mad - get even (from a poster in GD: Politics)

[DancingBear]

(This was written by Canadian DU'er "Robert Cooper" and posted in a thread in GD: Politics where we were complaining how so few Dems had backed Murtha's comments yesterday. As I sat in the forest, Robert showed me the trees. I asked him if it was OK to post his response here, and he said it was fine. It speaks volumes).


It is a curious thing watching American liberals deal with defeat: you're either bogged down with siege mentality or you're ready to quit.

When Brian Mulroney and his Tories won in the '80's, it was one of the largest RW landslides in Canadian history. The Liberals were down to a handful, politely referred to as the "Rat-Pack". We also went through two terms of this crap and, like you, we found their second term ripe with scandal and arrogance.

The third election, we wiped them out so bad we had to re-define parliament's definition for "political party" to continue granting the Tories "party status", there were so few of them elected.

The Tories split into two parties, and it wasn't until 2003-2004 that they re-united. The original "Progressive Conservatives", the party of Sir John A McDonald, our first prime minister, is extinct.

Can we hold back the conservatives? A recent poll places LW support at 55% to 26% for the RW. If not for the fact the Left is divided between two parties, it would be a cakewalk.

You don't have that problem.

Your RW is in disarray. Majority House Leader indicted. Majority Senate Leader under investigation. VP Chief of Staff indicted. WH staff under investigation.

You got Murtha's support, which is good. That's one more than you had the day before. You going to quit because everyone didn't immediately jump up and sing "Kumbayah" and light their candles? Fine gratitude shown to Murtha. Don't you think he needs you to support his position? Will quitting do it? Instead of having more supporters in the ranks of democrats, he'd have less.

How long was Churchill in the "Wilderness", and how would things have been different if he'd quit because no one was listening?

Who do you expect to fight your battles if you won't?

[lonestarnot]

1. Well sorry to disappoint, but many of us do not fall into either

of the catagories defined. We are here and we are fighting to the bitter end!

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and lately things don't look like such a bitter end

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[DancingBear]

3. We all are fighting

but some of us tend to see the glass as half-empty, and at times like this we need to be reminded that is half-full.

Because it is.

I join you in the fight.

[lonestarnot]

4. Proud to welcome you into the fight Dancing Bear.

[I Have A Dream]

5. Yes, I agree that it's half full. We're adding to our support...

rather than losing support. (If we were losing support, then I'd view the glass as half empty.)

[MissMarple]

2. Snaps to Robert Cooper!

"You going to quit because everyone didn't immediately jump up and sing "Kumbayah" and light their candles?"

That just sums it up so well. I'm not quitting, had no intention of doing so. Hurray for Murtha and sending e-mail to Pilosi, Reid, Howard and perhaps a few others, to suggest they get together, agree to disagree with each other, but do it in a way that brings cohesion and solidarity to the progressive/democratic message. I suggest we do the same.

I really dislike the song "Kumbayah". It's just way too sappy.

[Norquist Nemesis]

6. Thanks, DB! Here's a good example of fighting the battle

jackster has the right idea!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2259948&mesg_id=2259948