Who is the Senior Administration that told Woodward??????

[stop the bleeding]

Speculation Over Woodward Source Draws Denials

Here is the meat of it from the WSJ

Vice President Dick Cheney isn't believed to have talked to Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald since last year, nor has he given a waiver to Mr. Woodward. That removes him as Mr. Woodward's source. Also ruled out are President Bush, who was interviewed by Mr. Woodward for his book, and Dan Bartlett, a senior adviser.

Others suspected of being sources for Mr. Woodward yesterday denied their involvement. Douglas Feith, former undersecretary of defense for policy, said he didn't talk to Mr. Woodward about Mr. Wilson and his wife, as did Carl Ford Jr., former assistant secretary of state for intelligence and research. A spokesman for former CIA Director George Tenet and his former deputy, John McLaughlin, said neither provided that information to Mr. Woodward.

A person speaking on behalf of former Secretary of State Colin Powell said he didn't share that information with the reporter, and a National Security Council official eliminated Stephen Hadley, the head of the NSC, as a possibility. Spokesmen for Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who was National Security Adviser at the time, and John Bolton, a former top State Department official and now U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, said neither was Mr. Woodward's source.

Marc Grossman, a former undersecretary of state for political affairs known to have discussed Mr. Wilson's trip to Niger and his wife's CIA role with Mr. Libby, didn't respond to phone calls or an email seeking comment. A spokesman for Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, who remains under investigation in this case, said his client didn't discuss Ms. Plame with Mr. Woodward.

One official among those who knew of Ms. Plame's identify is former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage. He was out of the country and hasn't responded to recent requests for comment on this subject.

Why is Bush ruled out "Also ruled out are President Bush, who was interviewed by Mr. Woodward for his book, and Dan Bartlett, a senior adviser" the article acts like this is common knowledge. Is it, what have I missed?

Who else is a Senior Administration Official that has not been ruled out? This article seems to strike a lot of people off of the list and that list has to be getting a bit short by now. I think it would be helpful to develop a list such as this, anyone care to help?

[NNN0LHI]

1. If the WSJ says its Armitage chances are more likely it was Bush n/t

[stop the bleeding]

5. Well then I can say the next part of my morning coffee theory.

Remember that meeting that Fitz had with Bush's Lawyer the morning of the indictments against Fibby?

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Fitz talks to Rove's lawyer on Tuesday

Fitz talks to Bush's lawyer on Friday.

Up until indictment day it was a pretty good/strong rumor that both Rove and Fibby were going down.

What gave Fitz pause? - Woodward of course.

[H2O Man]

8. Timing is everything:

Indictments -- filed October 28.

Unnamed person's attorney contacts Fitzgerald -- November 2.

Tells about Woodward conversation -- November 3rd.

Woodward gives deposition -- November 14.

[stop the bleeding]

10. I knew this would get your attention.

Glad to have your input.

[H2O Man]

11. I've read that

RawStory has identified Hadley as the source. I know that they have had a good source on Hadley in recent weeks. More, while some White House sources have said it was not Hadley, he refuses to confirm or deny reports it was him. He has played coy, saying that he read reports it was not him.

Were I to venture a guess, I'd say that Rawstory is on target. However, I think we'll see that there is more to the story. If, for sake of discussion, we say it was Hadley, it raises a couple questions. He had already testified to the grand jury. He had been shakey in the ten days before Fitzgerald filed the indictments. I would suggest that his anxiety wasn't just because Fitzgerald knew that he had been one of the Cheney lap dogs, spreading rumors about Valerie to some journalists that Hadley had admitted to. I think he may have been nervous because he was not sure if Fitzgerald knew that there were things being held back.

There would have to have been some reason that Hadley contacted Fitzgerald, to say, "Oops! I forgot Woodward." They had to think that someone else had dropped dime. This summer, I posted an essay called "The Unknown Soldier" on DU:GD, about a former official that Libby despised, and who he and Cheney suspected was leaking to the media. Now, perhaps it is just coincidence, but the VP's office is trying to point fingers at Dick Armitage now.

Small world.

[stop the bleeding]

16. Tis a small world, and in the world of Fitz and the WH it is

getting smaller all of the time. There can't be too many senior officials left that fit the bill for Woodward's source.

I still think it could be:

1. Hadley
2. Cheney - just because the media did not see him, doesn't rule him out. Hell the guy only comes out of his bunker 3 maybe 4 times a year so he has other sneakier ways of commuicating.
3. Bush
4. Armitage until he can be ruled out.
5. Who else?

[spanone]

2. Remember GOP code: repeat a lie enough times, it becomes truth.

[dkofos]

6. That's what they always say

[tocqueville]

3. last time it took 30 years to find out

but Nixon had to go anyway...

[ThomWV]

4. True - But We Didn't Have Torture In Our Handbag Back Then

So send Woodward to Gitmo and see if he talks ....

[tocqueville]

12. it's true it's different this time

in the first case (to make it simple) a journalist investigates a crime and peaks out the culprit, but protects the source which is understandable

in the second case somebody commits a crime (an in a way a worse crime) and is the source at the same time... the journalist protects the source...

[lala_rawraw]

7. Stick to the people you trust...

Hadley is being discounted by a single anonymous source without going on the record himself:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051118/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cia_leak_hadley_3;_ylt=Ak.Y.V2_TT_49bFReiPYBDlqP0AC;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

This is to discredit us, as we are the only ones to report Hadley. We stand by that and I ask that you stand by us.

[stop the bleeding]

9. Sorry lala,

I do not want to step on Rawstory's toes, and Hadley is still on my list but I am trying to keep an open mind as to who is involved and how far up to the Oval Office it goes.

Part of this is being able to keep a "short list" of Senior Administration Officials who fit the bill.

Lastly I like everyone else is going crazy for information.

Thanks again for the work that you all are doing and I hope things are getting better in S. Florida.

[lala_rawraw]

13. I have no problem

With anyone keeping an open mind. I think you are correct in keeping all options open.

I am responding to the recent reports by WSJ and Reuters, which use single source gov. anon officials to speak for Hadley in order to quiet our story. As a result, many people have started to question us and my response was simply in hopes of asking that those who trust us continue to do so. I also included the link from the AP, which is really interesting:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051118/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cia_leak_hadley_3;_ylt=Ak.Y.V2_TT_49bFReiPYBDlqP0AC;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

"BUSAN, South Korea - National Security Adviser
Stephen Hadley won't say if he was the source who told Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward that Bush administration critic Joseph Wilson's wife worked for the CIA. But Hadley volunteered on Friday that some administration officials say he's not the leaker.


Accompanying President Bush at a summit here, Hadley was asked at a news briefing whether he was Woodward's source.

Referring to news accounts about the case, Hadley said with a smile, "I've also seen press reports from White House officials saying that I am not one of his sources." He said he would not comment further because the CIA leak case remains under investigation.

Leaving the room, Hadley was asked if his answer amounted to a yes or a no. "It is what it is," he said"

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14. I found the article interesting as well, and I thought to myself when I

read it. Is what a coy bastard-prick Hadley is "It is what it is", someone otta smack these people.

[lala_rawraw]

15. yes, because NSC head leaking

is outrageous and he is treating it as a parlor game

[Catrina]

17. Hadley seems the most likely

considering his refusal to either deny or confirm his involvement. Not to mention his involvement in the Niger forgeries affair. He had a vested interest in silencing anyone who might have raised questions about the information in the SOTU address.

If the reports from Italy are true, Hadley met with Pollari and might have have been the one who put the original 'Niger' information into Bush's speech, and perhaps after it was removed, changed the words and replaced them with the final controversial 16 words.

This WH official spoke to Woodward in June, 2003 ~ Woodward was writing a book about the War at the time.

And Hadley might have become worried once Libby was indicted. However, I still have a question about what legal jeopardy he might have been in by keeping that information to himself and not telling Fitzgerald himself.