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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:38 PM
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Post your feelings about Bob Woodward here. It's therapeutic.
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 05:38 PM by David Zephyr
Personally, I feel that Bob Woodward is beyond redemption for the treacherous deceit that he participated in since the result is over 15,000 American young people wounded for life, over 2,000 dead and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens including children who found themselves "collateral damage" because of the Iraq War that Bob Woodward helped facilitate.

How do you feel about Robert Woodward? Don't hold back.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:40 PM
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1. How about this?
:puke:
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:42 PM
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3. LOL
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:44 PM
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5. He is lying and I hope
he goes go jail for it, He is a rw b.....d. What a snake. Trying to get libby out of trouble. But they won't be able to. Lets all shout out "snakes be gone."
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Halliburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:42 PM
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2. he's an asshole
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:43 PM
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4. Shameless self promoting asshole that will do anything or hold
anything back in order to keep his precious access to those in power.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:44 PM
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6. Just another has been
now just an arse kissing hack.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:44 PM
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7. Brownnosing power junkie too high on himself for words...
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:44 PM
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8. He evolved into a media whore
who is only out to make $$$

Thankfully his former partner Bernstein is still fighting the good fight.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:46 PM
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10. You know he really believes that rw stuff. He is one of them.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:46 PM
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9. Weasel Woodward is losing credibilty at faster rate than his hero Bush.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:47 PM
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11. Self-serving, principle-less, money grubbing anti-patriot
If he gave a damn about this COUNTRY, he'd stop covering up for the WH cabal.
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cloud_chaser1 Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:48 PM
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12. As a journalist, I am very disappointed in Woodward.
When Watergate was going on, Woodward and Bernstein were considered the idols an young kids in Journalism schol aspired to be just like them,intrepid researchers, role models, knights in shining army, riding white horses to the rescue. Alas, the young journalists idolized the wrong man.
I believe Bob Woodward has been covering the Washington scene a bit too long and he has caught the disease of governmental dishonesty and coverup. He has become exactly what he has been writing about.....
a person not to be trusted.
It began to show with that book about John Belushi, called "Wired". Its wasnt a true book...it was tabloid journalism, and it has gotten worse.
Woodward is a good reporter, when he wants to be. Problem is....he no longer wants to be.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:52 PM
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16. I'm a journalist, too, and you're right

Woodward is so thoroughly in bed with the Establishment it makes me want to peuk. Really really bad for someone who seemed to epitomize integrity when I was in journalism school in the 1970's.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:36 PM
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18. "He has become exactly what he has been writing about....."
Just like Animal Farm's pigs, huh? Thanks for your perspective as a journalist, cloud_chaser1.

Woodward and Bernstein were once giants in my eyes during the 1970's. Woodward, to me, is now lower than the scum he exposed back then.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:46 PM
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20. Have you seen "Digby's Hullabaloo" Blogspot on Journalists who came
of age and their whole focus was on emulating Woodward/Bernstein? It's an interesting post...I'll dig it up. Disillusionment with Woodward was the theme. Heartbreaking when our "Hero's fall." When they become "stenographers."

But..it's a sad fact of life. The "good life calls" over a life of Penny Pinching Squaler. :shrug:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:02 PM
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21. Here are some links and a quote that "journalists" would enjoy!

Here's the link about what a what a hero "Woodstein" was to folks way back when from Will Bunch who was 14 and addicted to Watergate Coverage:

http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/002488.html
-----------------------------------------------

(AND, here's Digby's view of what's going on...and you will need to scroll because I couldn't find a "permalink" for this comment of his)

FROM DIGBY/HULLABALOO:

I don't know why all the other reporters who were being leaked this nasty bit of business didn't write articles with that lead, but they should have. As we all know, that was the story then and it's the story now. Instead it's only after the long arm of the law reaches into the newsrooms that we find out dozens of reporters, including some of the most famous and powerful, were involved in this little episode.

It turns out that Bob Woodward, who worked hand in glove with the administration to create the hagiography of the codpiece, has known for years that the White House was engaged in a coordinated smear campaign against Joe Wilson. Indeed, he was right in the middle of it. In the beginning he may have thought that it was idle gossip, but by the time he was on Larry King defending it as such he knew damned well that it had been leaked by Rove, Libby and his own source all within a short period of time. He's been around Washington long enough to know a coordinated leak when he sees one.

Novak took the bait and dutifully regurgitated the information. Matt Cooper smelled a rat and wrote about it. It's amazing how many other journalists heard the tale and dismissed the significance or went out of their way to "protect" sources by talking about the case on television every chance they got while pretending they were uninvolved. But none pooh-poohed the story and its significance in public with quite the same fervor as Bush's friend Woody.

I had thought that Tim Russert and Andrea Mitchell were the Lawrence Olivier and Vivien Leigh of this story with their endless "speculation" about an investigation in which they had information that could clear up many of the questions they were fielding. Woody takes the cake. His has been an Oscar worthy performance to rival Meryl Streep. He chewed the scenery so many times on Larry King that he should be given a lifetime achievement award:
(Cue "Battle Hymn of the Republic")

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:49 PM
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13. I still thank Woodward for his role in exposing
the corruption in the Nixon administration.

But something happened to him in the transition from hungry reporter to wealthy author.

I hate it when the good ones go sour.

:thumbsdown:
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:50 PM
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14. did ya ever listen to him talk
He sounds like he rode to school on a very short school bus.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:52 PM
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15. I have never read his books and don't know
his whole background, though I am reading he was part of the CIA way back and actually helped the republicans who wanted Nixon out.

When I have seen him briefly on talk shows, he seemed quite arrogant, and this didn't seem to fit with the legend I had heard of the "Woodward and Bernstein heroes".
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:10 PM
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17. turncoat whores like him are the worst....we know they know
better but the sell-out is something to behold. He's as bad as Dennis Miller...and that is really bad.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:42 PM
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19. GAAACKIKKKK....(Expelling Fur Ball) ...I'm a cat owner...
Having read everything back and forth on all the liberal Blogs and here on DU about Woodward's past and present and future....I can only do what my cats do when there's something uncomfortable in their tummy's.

Sorry...I just don't have it in me to be more erudite..on Woodward, tonight.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:11 PM
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25. GAAACKIKKKK works just fine.
:hi:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:38 PM
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34. Digby's Blogspot "Hullabaloo" has great links about Woodward and
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 09:41 PM by KoKo01
comments of his own. I enjoyed the read...and you might, too. You have to scroll for Digby...but Will Bunch's youthful view of what "Woodstein" was to so many is a good read...at the first link:

---------------
Bob and me

I've never been very trendy, but there was one time in my life when I did find myself swept up by a trend, a big one. And so today I come here to confess: I am a charter member of that '70s show, a generation of starry-eyed idealists who became newspaper reporters all because of Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein.

It all started in the summer of 1973. I wasn’t a total geek when I was 14 -- just a total Watergate geek. I still remember getting home from shooting archery (badly) and swimming laps (slowly) at summer rec camp every day, and racing upstairs to our black-and-white set so I could catch John Dean’s testimony to the Senate Watergate Committee.

The next year, on a family camping trip to the Catskills, I stayed up with a flashlight in my cot, pouring over the paperback edition of Richard Nixon’s White House tape transcripts while raccoons foraged underneath. As I remember it three decades later, my first girlfriend even dumped me in the parking lot outside a showing of the film of “All the President’s Men.” (Maybe that was a bit of foreshadowing -- associating Bob Woodward with disappointment.)

By the time that movie version of Woodward and Bernstein’s reporting exploits came out in 1976, I had already made the irrevocable decision of a lifetime: To become a newspaper reporter. I’d like to tell you about the day I blurted out, “I’m going to be just like Bob Woodward someday,” except it didn't exactly happen that way.

For one thing, I’m really more of a Bernstein -- the scruffier one, the better writer but not the one with the best sources, the one who would embark on a more erratic career path. And the truth is that, for someone who loves to write, who still gets an adrenaline rush from breaking news, and occasionally test drives the latest "conspiracy theory," I didn’t really need Bob Woodward to convince me to become the ink-stained wretch that I am today.

But he and Bernstein were American heroes to me. And I very much wanted to do what they did -- to wrestle the powers that be from the bottom position, and win.

Well, at least that’s what I thought Woodward did.

Looking back, I can't tell the exact moment that I realized that Bob Woodward wasn't the crusader and role model that my generation of eager-beaver journalists so foolishly thought he was. Maybe it was when he wrote his only non-political book, "Wired" -- a John Belushi bio that had all the charisma of a World War I-era anti-pot film. Or maybe it was his 1987 CIA book "Veil," with its reeks-of-phoniness-or-worse deathbed confession by Bill Casey of his role in the Iran-Contra scandal, because "I believed."


http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/002488.html
-------------------------

DIGBY/BLOGSPOT/HULLABALOO!
I don't know why all the other reporters who were being leaked this nasty bit of business didn't write articles with that lead, but they should have. As we all know, that was the story then and it's the story now. Instead it's only after the long arm of the law reaches into the newsrooms that we find out dozens of reporters, including some of the most famous and powerful, were involved in this little episode.

It turns out that Bob Woodward, who worked hand in glove with the administration to create the hagiography of the codpiece, has known for years that the White House was engaged in a coordinated smear campaign against Joe Wilson. Indeed, he was right in the middle of it. In the beginning he may have thought that it was idle gossip, but by the time he was on Larry King defending it as such he knew damned well that it had been leaked by Rove, Libby and his own source all within a short period of time. He's been around Washington long enough to know a coordinated leak when he sees one.

Novak took the bait and dutifully regurgitated the information. Matt Cooper smelled a rat and wrote about it. It's amazing how many other journalists heard the tale and dismissed the significance or went out of their way to "protect" sources by talking about the case on television every chance they got while pretending they were uninvolved. But none pooh-poohed the story and its significance in public with quite the same fervor as Bush's friend Woody.

I had thought that Tim Russert and Andrea Mitchell were the Lawrence Olivier and Vivien Leigh of this story with their endless "speculation" about an investigation in which they had information that could clear up many of the questions they were fielding. Woody takes the cake. His has been an Oscar worthy performance to rival Meryl Streep. He chewed the scenery so many times on Larry King that he should be given a lifetime achievement award:

(Cue "Battle Hymn of the Republic")


http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:05 PM
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22. A picture is worth a thousand words....


(credit to billmon)
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:12 PM
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26. Spazito! He's prettier than Judith Miller, too.
Hmmmmmmmm.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:15 PM
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27. LOL, it is rare, indeed, when a picture says EVERYTHING I feel
about both Woodward and Miller in one fell swoop, this one certainly does!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:17 PM
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28. Thanks for sharing billmon's photo!
Man, I am going to e-mail this to everyone I know! :rofl:
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:07 PM
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23. Total sellout. Another Judith Miller. More
worried about "access" and vainglory than reporting facts. A real whore.
Edward R. Murrow wouldn't respect Woodward.
Woodward has now officially become a laughingstock. Before, he was merely a tool.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:10 PM
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24. The way Woodward has sold out, by the time he arrives in Hell....
....he's going to owe Nixon an apology. :grr:
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:21 PM
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29. He should be prosecuted for obstruction.
For real.

He was EVERYWHERE, pushing his book and saying how this Plame affair was "minimal" and not important, etc., etc...

And at NO TIME did he come forward with the info he had.

He should have disclosed this, just as financial reporters disclose what they have an interest in.

What a slimy POS. Too bad Robert Redford went and made him look good in that movie, because it's obvious to me now that all Bob Woodward is is an opportunist and a egomaniac.
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:27 PM
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30. Very Disappointed
I think fame went to his head, & he started getting in with people he never would have associated with in the past. I admired Woodward & Bernstein so much growing up. I was in elementary school while Watergate was going on, but I liked reporters who would expose the truth
(what they used to call "investigative reporters"). Hey, I liked to watch the news & read from a young age, so sue me!:) I have been hurt & disappointed so much in the last 15-20 years that I guess I'm a little numb about Woodward. It's just the same old stuff, I guess. Someone or something always lets me down. At least Bernstein doesn't seem to be a sellout. I hope it stays that way.

Tammy
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:33 PM
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31. I loved him in the "Horse Whisperer".... n/t
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:35 PM
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32. I feel nothing towards or about him.
However, a discussion on PBS's "The New's Hour" pointed to the fact that Washington based journalists' cultivation of insiders in the White House to get some information led to this. They forgot their first duty was to keep the public informed.

I do hope we get some new, braver journalists who won't be compromised again. Woodward has finished his career in disgrace, as someone else said, a stenographer for the Bush Administration.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:36 PM
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33. Jerry Rubin became a Puke, so Sell-outs happen.
Woodward is a whore for the Bushies.

End of story.

He has forgotten what he knew as a young man, and old men sometimes do that.
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