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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:06 PM
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“Able Danger” to testify publicly before Congress"
Support grows in Congress to allow testimony from 'Able Danger' on pre-9/11 intelligence
Larisa Alexandrovna

Rep. Curt Weldon (R-PA) expects to secure a majority of House signatures in support of a letter calling upon Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld to allow members of the former intelligence program “Able Danger” to testify publicly before Congress, RAW STORY has learned.

“Able Danger” was a Defense Department program that purportedly identified Mohamed Atta, the lead hijacker on 9/11, over a year before the attack.

Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer and Captain Scott Phillpot, the officers that led the program, have been ordered by the Pentagon not to discuss any information regarding their work. The program operated under the aegis of the United States Army Special Operations Command.
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Support_grows_in_Congress_to_allow_1117.html

Raw Story includes letter at this same link from Weldon to Rummy

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:08 PM
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1. Woo hoo! Truth is our most powerful weapon!
Peace.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:09 PM
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2. The Congress is feeling the heat!!!
Awesome News!!!
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:10 PM
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How is this awsome news?
This will help bush and hurt Democrats.
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:15 PM
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6. How do you know that, until they testify?
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:21 PM
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11. Truth, baby. Whoever it hurts politically, I don't care. nt
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:10 PM
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3. Yes, illegal domestic military ops would be something you'd want to keep
a secret away from the public's representatives, don't you think ? Time to disregard illegal orders if you value your country.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:11 PM
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4. No one ever answers when I ask this:
Who exactly is their testimony supposed to hurt? They never told any Clinton people about this, or so I've heard. Bush dissolved the group shortly after his inauguration. Didn't any of them tell any Bush people? If I had fingered the hijackers and didn't do anything about it, I would be trying like hell to cover that up, instead of proclaiming from the rooftops that I could have prevented a national catastrophe but forgot to tell anyone.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:12 PM
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5. This will be used by the right to put the blame for 911
on Clinton and his administartion. It will give bush a pass.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:19 PM
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9. That's right. That is the ONLY reason Weldon is pursuing this. n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:20 PM
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10. This is why Weldon is pushing it so hard.. It's just another ploy
to "push back" the dates to the "previous adminstration". EVERY interview he does, the following words are uttered, and pointedly:

Jamie Gorelik
previous administration
Clinton
cover up


Weldon is a tool..

My question is this?

If he had known about this for such a long time, why is he only NOW coming forward?

He could have said something a lot earlier, but remained silent until most(if not all) "evidence" of what he's saying, was conveniently lost, destroyed, discarded..

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:28 PM
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12. Weldon is trying his best to blame Clinton/Gore & deflect Bush's failures
of 9/11. Since day 1. He would push back the tragedy of 9/11/2001 to 9/11/1999 if he could get away with it. I don't know who he's trying to fool.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:09 PM
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14. SCHOOMAKER NEVER TOLD CLINTON
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 03:14 PM by seemslikeadream
Able Danger is a Pandora's Box that will blow up in the RW's face.
Re-open the 9/11 investigation? BRING IT ON! Here's why:

So the responsibility for stopping DIA program Able Danger, which had Identified Atta and 3 other hijackers and linked them to 56 other al-Queda terrorists overseas, has been laid at the feet of Bill Clinton--except he and Richard Clarke were never told about it at all.

That's right. Bill Clinton was never told about Able Danger and the ID of Atta because Richard Clarke was never told about AD. How do I know? He never wrote about it in his book, nor did he testify about it's existence before the 9-11 Commission!

You see Richard Clarke was known for being obsessed with Osama Bin Laden and HE was the guy the neo-con moles did not want to find out about Atta and the gang. Schoomaker and the neo-cons knew telling the FBI would inform Clarke and then Mr. Laser Beam himself, President of the United State William Jefferson Clinton, would have gotten involved--and the Pearl Harbor-type attack would never take place (the neo-cons talked about the need for a Pearl Harbor-type attack before the PNAC Plan would be accepted by the American people--so when one presented itself, they let it happen).

General Pete Schoomaker, who were later heavily rewarded by the neo-cons in the Bush Administration, blocked the upward motion of the DIA information by having Shaffer and Philpott meet with Pentagon lawyers opinions--lawyers who were rubberstamping ridiculous legal opinions to carry out the neo-con plan. These certain people were neo-cons in the Clinton Administration, covertly carrying out the PNAC plan to let a Pearl Harbor-type attack occur so Iraq and 6 other countries could be invaded.


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/24/124834/678






BUDDY BUDDY
http://www.gsnmagazine.com.nyud.net:8090/images/aug_05/atta.jpg
DO THE MATH

24 MINUTES

THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A MILITARY ORDER
WATCH THIS VIDEO

http://www.bushflash.com/buddy.html


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/24/124834/678


DIA Agents were ordered to put yellow Post-its over Atta's face and the face's of 3 other 9/11 terrorists

"We were directed to take those 3M yellow stickers and place them over the faces of Atta and the other terrorists and pretend they didn't exist," the intelligence officer told GSN."

Intel agents Michael Shaffer and Scott Philpott have confirmed Rep. Weldon's claims that a chart with Atta's face, soon the photos of 3 other members of the 9-11 terror team, were known to DIA team Able Danger by early 2000.

This diary will show that Pete Schoomaker and Philip Zelikow are two of the main Perpetraitors in this scandal, that they deliberately withheld information from the President of the United States that would have prevented 9/11, that they and their neo-con rulers Let It Happen On Purpose.

Of this there can no longer be any doubt.



MUST READ - RE: ABLE DANGER INFO
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4447706

Hopsicker: Able Danger Intel Exposed "Protected" Heroin Trafficking
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x149481


Able Danger: Short Time-line
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4441903

Was Able Danger Shut Down After It Detected Condi-PRC Spy Ring?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4494524



Senate May Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing
Thursday, August 25, 2005


Able Danger (search) is the code name for a military-intelligence unit that apparently learned a year before the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks that lead hijacker Mohamed Atta (search) and other terrorists were already in the United States.

One of the central Able Danger claims — that military lawyers blocked the sharing of the Atta information from the FBI in the late summer and early fall of 2000 — will be a focus of the committee's if a hearing takes place, FOX News has confirmed.

Some analysts involved with Able Danger have recently gone public with their findings, saying they were discouraged from looking further into Atta, and their attempts to share their information with the FBI were thwarted, because Atta was a legal foreign visitor at the time.

"This story needs to be told. The American people need to be told what could have been done to prevent 3,000 people from losing their lives," said Rep. Curt Weldon (search), R-Pa.

Weldon drew attention to Able Danger by speaking about it on the House floor and publicly calling for the Sept. 11 commission to explain why the intelligence information wasn't detailed in its final report.

Some Able Danger analysts, including Army Reserve Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer (search) and Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott (search), claim that in October 2003, they told commission staffers of the presence of Al Qaeda operatives in the United States in 2000.


more
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166800,00.html


Senate May Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1727804&mesg_id=1727804




Condi in Middle of Able Danger ‘Cover Up’"

Weldon is now saying that the Pentagon cover up of able danger “will shake the country to its roots."

...

If the claims made by the Able Danger participants and Rep. Weldon are confirmed, former National Security Adviser Rice and other Bush Administration officials will face a barrage of questions. First would likely be an inquiry into why the administration unceremoniously axed the Able Danger project in May of 2001.

During an August 20th interview on C-Span’s Washington Journal, Able Danger member Lt. Col. Schaffer posed a question of his own:

"The American public should ask themselves: Why would the leadership of DoD shut down, terminate, a project which was aimed at targeting al-Qaeda offensively? ...

"Why would they shut that down, four months before 9/11? That’s the big question right now, we have to ask that. I don’t know the answer to that question because I know my side of the story, I know that when a 2 star general got in my face and said, “I’m a 2 star general and you are not. You are to stop your support of Able Danger.” That’s what I know personally. But the question has to be: Who told him to do that? ...

"And why did the rest of the project, I’m talking about Special Operations Command and the Army portion of this, why was that terminated?

"Those are the questions that need to be asked."


more...

http://www.theinternationalpost.com/z30082005.html

Congressman Weldon -- Why now? Why ever?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4500623

Three more assert Pentagon knew of 9/11 ringleader By Will Dunham

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Three more people associated with a secret U.S. military intelligence team have asserted that the program identified September 11 ringleader Mohammed Atta as an Al Qaeda suspect inside the United States more than a year before the 2001 attacks, the Pentagon said on Thursday.

The Pentagon said a three-week review had turned up no documents to back up the assertion, but did not rule out that such documents relating to the classified operation had been destroyed.

Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott and Army Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer last month came forward with statements that a secret intelligence program code-named "Able Danger" had identified Atta, the lead hijacker in the attacks that killed 3,000 people, in early 2000. Pennsylvania Republican Rep. Curt Weldon (news, bio, voting record), vice chairman of the House of Representatives Armed Services Committee, also went public with the allegations.

Pat Downs, a senior policy analyst in the office of the undersecretary of defense for intelligence, told reporters that as part of the review, the Pentagon interviewed 80 people.

Downs said that three more people, as well as Phillpott and Shaffer, recalled the existence of an intelligence chart identifying Atta by name. Four of the five recalled a photo of Atta accompanying the chart, Downs said.

Pentagon officials declined to identify the three by name, but said they were an analyst with the military's Special Operations Command, an analyst with the Land Information Warfare Assessment Center and a contractor who supported the center.

Downs said all five were considered "credible people."

But officials said an exhaustive search of tens of thousands of documents and electronic files related to Able Danger failed to find the chart or other documents corroborating the identification of Atta. Phillpott has said Atta was identified by Able Danger by January or February of 2000.

"We have not discovered that chart," Downs said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050901/pl_nm/security_attacks_pentagon_dc


Three more assert Pentagon knew of 9/11 ringleader
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1744982&mesg_id=1744982

Specter Wants Answers About 'Able Danger'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1796658&mesg_id=1796658


NYT/Reuters: Pentagon Blocks Testimony at Senate Hearing on Terrorist
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1795221&mesg_id=1795221

NOW - ON CAPITOL HILL - Able Danger Inquiry CSPAN3 9:30am et
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4836496

Able Danger ties Condi Rice to Chinese espionage! (really!)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4846388&mesg_id=4846388

VIDEO-the Senate Judicial Committee ABLE DANGER saga
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?

Official: (Curt Weldon) Attack on Cole foreseen (ABLE DANGER)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1915365&mesg_id=1915365

New 9/11 Timeline update, with new Able Danger page
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?

Weldon on Able Danger Lou Dobbs transcript-
Weldon's faced criticism from 9/11 commission member Tim Roemer for his call for an investigation into the Able Danger claims.

"The way he talks about Able Danger these days, you'd think it would have prevented Pearl Harbor and maybe had Congress spend money responsibly or develop some kind of immigration policy," Roemer told CNN's Lou Dobbs on Monday.

Weldon joined Dobbs on Tuesday to discuss Roemer's remarks, as well as his call for an Able Danger investigation.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2252742&mesg_id=2255496
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/16/weldon.able.danger/index.html
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:38 PM
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15. The way it will be played by the right is that
regulations put in place by the Clinton administration would not allow the sharing of intelligence between various agencies.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:38 PM
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18. Good job
That's how I see it also.

The RWwill try to spin it as a clenis problem but the truth is they kept him in the dark.

I would like to ask Clark what he knows.

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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:05 AM
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20. .
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MrDale Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:17 PM
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8. from what i have heard
clinton knew about able danger. the reason the republicans are allowing this testimony is to take heat off of them and once again - blame clinton.

republicans want to rewrite history! and what better way than to blame the clinton presidency and say that clinton could have prevented the 9-11 attacks had he used the able danger information.

if i'm wrong and there is information saying i am wrong...please post me a link or something because ive heard this crap from neocons for the past 6 months.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:33 PM
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13. You just need a better "crap filter"
Consider the source...(neocon?) and keep reading a variety of things and watching more than Fox.

and welcome to DU :hi:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:11 PM
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16. Only 33 FAA Air Marshals on 9-11...Bush read PDB Aug. 6, '01 and does what
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 04:13 PM by EVDebs
? Does NOTHING. Blame Clinton ? What for, if Bush wanted to DO something he'd have hired FAA Air Marshals prior to 9-11 like they were going outta style.

After 9-11 from the SF Chronicle we now hear that there are 'thousands' of FAA Air Marshals.

Maybe no one was supposed to notice the wargames on 9-11 either or the Saudi software firm Ptech with access to FAA and intell computers.

It made things sooo much easier to 'compartmentalize'. Post #14 this thread NAILS it. Freepers pursue at their own risk.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:22 PM
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17. Correct me if I am wrong, but Clinton was NOT in office in 2001-bu$h was .
Also recall how Richard Clarke and others were dismissed when they attempted to bring to light warnings prior to the attack (all on the record).

Could it be that Weldon is truly upset that our national security was ignored and this is not about politics? I for one want the TRUTH to come out regardless of who is responsible. Perhaps this is true of Weldon. I know he is a Republican but maybe he is the kind (unfortunately few and far between these days) who put their country first before their allegiance to the Republican Party.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:46 PM
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19. Wrong!
Weldon started blaming Clinton the night of 9/11. He doesn't want the truth. He's looking out for his republican party and GWBush.
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Eagle_Eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:16 PM
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7. I say SO WHAT!
This administration has said repeatedly that they have far too many reports of impending attacks to act on them all, but here comes some conservative that says 20/20 hind sight shows that 'THEIR' report was correct.
SO WHAT? File it with the other 999 reports that also went by the way side and quit trying to deflect attention away from the Bush crew that is plowing up the works.
Curt Weldon has too much free time on his hands.
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