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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:02 PM
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Black Bodies Remain Still.....Part II

http://scoutprime.blogspot.com/2005/11/black-bodies-remain-stillpart-ii.html


Imagine this...
You watch on TV the news that your mother's city has been destroyed by the latest disaster. For days you wait to hear from her. Days pass into weeks but still no word. Your hope of finding her alive fades. Frantically you call everyone in government but to no avail. You tell yourself to let the rescuers do their job. You await word from the morgue but it does not come. You hear they are backed up so you wait. Two months later you are allowed to go to her home. Hoping to retrieve what you can..... documents, the precious family photos, you enter her home only to find your mother's decomposing body in her living room. You stumble out and fall to your knees in anguish asking.... "Why, How could she have been left like this?"

This would never happen in America you say? It is.

On Oct 3 the search for bodies in NOLA was called off despite the knowledge that bodies remained in unsearched homes in NOLA's 9th Ward (see previous post) The plan was for people to call 911 if they found a body despite the fact that people were not even allowed into the 9th ward. On October 12th, parts of the 9th Ward were opened for a "look and leave." The death toll rose as bodies were found. And the lower 9th ward, perhaps the most devastated area of NOLA, will not open to residents until December.

-snip-


FRANK MINYARD, ORLEANS PARISH CORONER: Yes. And I think it's -- it's going to come in for a good while. There's so much rubbish around that they might find people in the rubbish. DORNIN (voice-over): They already have. And there are still many bodies left unidentified and unclaimed.
SNIP
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) COOPER: You warned us October 3. When the state stopped house- to-house searching for -- for -- for the deceased, you said, it was a bad idea, that there were more people out there. Now the death toll, it turns out, has jumped by 104. And -- and families are returning to find the bodies of their loved ones still in their homes. How does -- it's got to infuriate you.

-snip-
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to all the dead still lying in N.O. - I am so sorry you are not regarded. if I could remove and bury you I would. but, for you, I can keep knifing the criminal bushgang until they are gone from america.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:04 PM
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1. Sad, sad, sad!!!!
I just don't know what else to say.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:57 PM
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17. Operation Drown the Negroes
SOP.
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:05 PM
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2. That is deplorable. Terrible.
Beyond words that anyone should have to find decomposing bodies of loved ones. I cannot begin to imagine the horror. My heart goes out to anyone who has to face that situation. Like you, I would honor those dead, and will do so by fighting to fix the system that let them die, and left them there. Absurd, and insane.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:16 PM
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3. Kick
We have lost over a thousand of our citizens and no one seems to care. I hate to think that it's only because the majority of them are black. I remember all the outpouring of grief after 9/11 and the newspaper spreads with pictures and short obits of the dead. The dead in New Orleans can't even have the dignity of being found let alone being properly memorialized. My heart is just sick over this.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:39 PM
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24. The whole thing is disgusting
I think there were more like 10,000 dead but it will come out in such a filtered fashion that the public will never hear it.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:27 PM
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4. Deplorable n/t
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:32 PM
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5. The lower 9th ward will open in December?
My God.Where is the outrage?Where is the media?Still they drone on endlessley about one missing woman in Aruba.WHERE ARE THEIR FUCKING PRIORITIES?!
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:45 PM
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6. "look and leave"
And even during that "Look and leave," people weren't allowed to actually go in their houses. Instead, they were herded like sheep into buses that "toured" the ruined Ninth Ward without stopping, and dropped off again at the station. I saw this on ABC News - one woman complained she couldn't take anymore buses. So the police stopped searching the Ninth Ward for bodies, then wouldn't even let residents in to their homes to search. These people could still be there for all we know. And I think it's highly suspicious that they decided to "call off" the search as the death toll neared 1000 - wouldn't want the casualty list to get too high.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:03 PM
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8. Unreal, isn't it?
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:59 PM
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7. I'm just sick over this
I don't even know what to say. :(
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:10 PM
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9. I'm outraged and disgusted...but not surprised.
I knew this was gonna happen. Bush Co and Fema could give a damn...they proved that to us all from day one. And the corporate media whores cared just long enough to get some good ratings and some good advertising bucks. :puke: But if the media whores had stayed on top of this story and shamed Bush Co and Fema to the point of action, many of those people would be alive today.

I am absolutely sickened by what this country has become. :puke:
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:15 PM
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10. The "Culture of Life" my ass! This is beyond unacceptable...
It's criminal.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Peace.
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:15 PM
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11. This would NEVER have happened in a WHITE neighborhood
People would have had such a sh*t-fit and the corporate media would have been all over it, like, erm, white on rice.... And for those of you who say it's more about economic disparity than race, then why are the two so closely tied?

Where are the talented tenth and why have they been so quiet?

URGENT! Timing is critical to save earthquake victims before winter!
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BJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:35 PM
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12. But I Thought * Was Going to Personally Oversee Katrina Response
efforts? Remember the pledges? The tours? The promises?
Hmmmm--I wonder what happened????
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:49 PM
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15. He got busy catapaulting some propaganda.
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:58 PM
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13. We have sunk to a level of barbarism well below 3rd World
status. Truly, I'm sure the dead were better attended to after the tsunami.

There was no good reason to call off the search on October 3 except perhaps to limit the numbers of official dead.

This is genocidal (continuing that theme from the inattention immediately after the hurricane), barbaric, beyond belief.
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Kailassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:48 PM
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14. Heartsick at what the neocon traitors are doing to America. n/t
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:51 PM
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16. This breaks my heart
can you imagine this happening under Clinton's watch? No way. :cry:
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Aimah Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:18 PM
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18. I don't think they want the real number of dead out there.
They figure that they would slow down the removal of bodies. They think that by the time the official number comes out people will be looking the other way.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:25 PM
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21. Someone here once posted that they will never let the number
officially go over 3,000, the total killed on 9/11.

They don't want this meme out there: "our own government's neglect killed more Americans than the terrorists did."

I fear it may be true.

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north houston dem Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:35 PM
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19. This is disgusting. This is America?
we leave the bodies of our dead to rot in their homes? :mad:

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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:45 PM
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25. Brownie and company...
Were probably spreading lye on the bodies, instead of retrieving them (all at the taxpayer's expense)

They (bushit and company) will be bound and determined not to let this dwarf the almighty *911* death toll.

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:21 PM
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20. K&R (nt)
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:25 PM
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22. What is the current death toll and how many are still
unaccounted for? I have not heard these numbers in a long time.
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:33 PM
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23. remember the 25,000 body bags ordered by mayor nagin?
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 10:33 PM by DubyasWorld
it's his city.

he's seen the computer model casualty predictions for years.

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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:19 PM
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26. "Katrina's death toll is anybody's guess" - they just stopped counting
"Katrina's Death Toll is Anybody's Guess"

NEW ORLEANS TIMES-PICAYUNE
BATON ROUGE -- Hurricane Katrina stopped killing people Oct. 1.

That's the date state health officials have assigned as the cutoff for an official Katrina-related death for people who evacuated the New Orleans area because of the Aug. 29 hurricane and died in another city.

It is just one of many guesstimates in the state's hurricane death count, a number characterized by unknown and under-researched data, a high level of secrecy and a lack of communication between parish coroners, state health authorities and the public.

The state Department of Health and Hospitals as of Monday had "recovered" or received reports on 1,067 bodies. But because of gaps in the data, no one, not even at the agency, considers that an official death count.
...

Not on the list

In addition to those at St. Gabriel, the state has reported that 193 bodies are "deceased victims reported by other parish coroners," the majority being elderly or terminally ill people who died after evacuation, possibly because of the stresses of the move.

But for no reason that the state health agency can identify, it lists only 13 parishes with victims of that type, although it acknowledges that evacuees died elsewhere.

Lafayette Parish, for example, counted about 10 deaths of Orleans-area evacuees but is not among the parishes reported by the health department. "I have no idea why we're not on the list," said Roy Provost, chief medical legal investigator with the Lafayette Parish coroner's office. State health officials couldn't say either.

Even more glaring is the omission of Houston, another major evacuation destination not counted or even researched for subsequent deaths by the state health agency, health department officials said. Guidry said Tuesday the health department had not counted any deaths of New Orleans-area residents displaced to other states but that the agency would begin looking into it.

http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-4/113091550371970.xml
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:04 AM
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27. One of these news shows needs to keep a running tab--just as
they do with Iraq, and just as Lou Dobb's does with the Broken Borders series he runs. Also what happened to all of the displaced kids? They are really dropping the ball on this one.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 04:20 AM
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28. Kenyon are scum
The article said it was Kenyon doing the work with the bodies
Lookout..I wrote this about Kenyon
http://www.unknownnews.org/050917d.html#915upits
http://www.democrats.com/node/5960
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41298,00.html
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/FEMA_outsources_Katrina_body_count_to_firm_implicated_in_bodydumping_scan_0913.html

The Bushies knew full well they were leaving the Katrina Victims to rot.
They don't care,and besides they can sell unclaimed body parts,like the bones.How decomposed will the bodies be by december?
http://www.boneroom.com/bone/humanbones.html
http://tcs.ntu.ac.uk/body/abstracts/7(2-3).html
http://www.taphophilia.com/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=2108
How sick can it get?
http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/hilda/ssd/humbn.html
Bush ids a Bonesman of the sickest kind
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DaveColorado Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:01 AM
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29. nt
So many of the people...here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working well for them.

-Barbara Bush
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DaveColorado Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:02 AM
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30. nt
"So many of the people...here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working well for them."

Barbara Bush
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:05 AM
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31. Yup, Fed. Govt. is much better at handling large disasters,
then local govt. thanks to all the resources at its disposal.

:sarcasm:
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