What started the idea that Dems want to take everybody's guns away?

[napi21]

I just read another post tonight, here on Du, where someone was talking about his neighbor voting for Shrub because the Dems want to take his guns away from him.

I remember my father in law, 45 years ago, voting Republican becaues "those damn Dems want to take our guns away"!

What started this BS? When did it start? And WHY can't we seem to make it go away?????

[cloud_chaser1]

1. Because to neo-cons

we are the bad guys no matter what the issue may be. Besides that, for far too many gun lovers, that gun is an extention of their manhood and to take it from them, emasculates them.

[napi21]

5. It well may be an extention of their manhood.

And that's fine. My husband is a hunter, & loves his guns, but I've convinced him that the Dems are the good guys.

It doesn't matter why they love their guns. I want to know what makes them think the Dems want to take them away!

It's NOT the neo-cons. This started decades ago.

[Lefty48197]

2. Stupid assed Reps telling impressionable people that Dems are going

to take their guns away, and then fighting to ensure that there won't be an intelligent discussion on the topic.

[catmother]

3. good question. i lived in new york city most of my life and we

couldn't have guns unless you were a jeweler or someone who carried a lot of cash for business and then you got a special permit. so i didn't know much about it. as soon as we moved to arizona, we bought our first handgun. it was soooo exciting.

[nankerphelge]

4. It's ignorance...

if people want to know which party does a better job of protecting the bill of rights, they should look at the republicans track records in attempting to gut all the other amendments.

[pinniped]

6. I hear that a lot, too.

Those presidunces in 1986 and 1989 banned a lot of stuff.

Hardcore pro-gun nutz conveniently seem to forget this fact when stating their position.

[aquart]

7. The same policy of extreme lies

That tells people we favor huge bloated inefficient government and sky-high taxes.

[insane_cratic_gal]

8. NRA started that

I know it's a big issue for My dad too.. I reassure him that is not the case, gun control against assault riffles doesn't measure up to his shot gun.

NRA donates heavily to republicans as well. They didn't give their approval to Bush until he allowed the assault riffle ban to lax.

[niyad]

9. because these morans cannot tell the difference between gun control and

the complete elimination of guns.

besides, how EVER would they get hard without their rods?

[Bouncy Ball]

10. I have NO idea.

But as a gun-owning Democrat, I certainly don't want to take anyone's guns away.

I think posing for pictures with them (except if they HAPPEN to be in the shot, such as hunting pictures), naming them, masturbating to or with them is a bit much and that's something I've noticed about right-wingers and their guns, but hey, whatever melts your butter, you know?

[seabeyond]

11. a lot of people on this board support it, so i would imagine it is

supported in the party. there have been laws restricting it. some cities are not allowing handguns? so it isnt imagined and the rw grabbed onto it and planted the fear, nra hyping the dems have come to take your guns away ha ha hee hee......they show an example of england and have tiredlessly promoted this

[jwirr]

20. No hunting guns in England? I have seen Prince Charles

in pictures with a gun when he and the boys are hunting.

[napi21]

22. They have some weird laws there . I'm not sure how it works,

But I think you can own guns, but you have to keep them somewhere in a State controlled facility. They have no problem with hunting, but I know you can't keep your guns in your house.

[Orangepeel]

12. same thing that started the idea that we want to kill babies

republicans seeking to exploit a wedge issue

[merwin]

13. Boston Legal had a great quote from William Shatner on gun control:

This basically explains the right wing's point of view... from the episode a week or two ago "A Whiff and a Prayer"

Denny Crane = William Shatner
Shirly Schmidt = Candice Bergen

Congressman Raymond Jacobs: May I ask, Denny? How do you feel about gun control?
Denny Crane: For communists.
Congressman Raymond Jacobs: What about banning assault weapons to the private sector?
Denny Crane: As soon as you say it's OK to ban assault weapons my friend, even in the private sector, you make it easier to take guns away from hunting and personal protection. Soon the military and police are without firearms.
Shirly Schmidt: By banning assault weapons in the private sector, the military and the police would lose their guns?
Denny Crane: And the dominos. It's the whole theory. She's a liberal. Can't even hunt.

[stepnw1f]

14. NRA Propaganda

Crap.... I have to see ONE shred of evidence to back their accusation.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. NRA for the last 30 or so years

and a lot of the sane gun control legislation comes from our ranks... as well as some of the more insane legislation.. but remind the Freepers it was the Feds who confiscated weapons at NOLA

[girl gone mad]

16. What happened in San Francisco earlier this month...

couldn't have helped our image with gun owners.

[JJackFlash]

17. the NRA

And yes, it's about the stupidest reason for voting repug there is, but there ya go.
Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the merkan people.

[Montauk6]

18. Probably the same ones who said that Dems are weak on crime.

Complete RUBBISH, of course.

Wasn't Clinton a big proponent of "Three Strikes"?

Aren't Repubs always griping about enforcing "hate crime" legislation?

Was it conservatives who argued that rape is a crime of violence?

Whenever there's an effort (any effort) to deal with gun violence (and these efforts NEVER involve gun confiscation, though you'd think otherwise hearing these Chicken Littles), who's the first to start crying "SECOND AMENDMENT!! SECOND AMENDMENT!!!"?

They claim to stand for law and order ("Rodney King wouldna got beat up so bad if he only obeyed," remember?); yet, David Koresh also refused to cooperate with federal agents; to this day, we never fail to get reminded of Janet Reno's savagery. Note, I believe that Waco Massacre was wrong but I know there was a lot of hypocrisy in the rhetoric; I remember hearing conservatives praising to the hilt Philly's then-Mayor Wilson Goode ordering a similar hit on MOVE back in the mid-80s ("Dirty commies had it coming," etc.)

I'm sure there are other examples of how full of it the GOP is.

[jwirr]

19. The desire for gun control coupled with survivalist

propaganda regarding the idea that "we the people" need guns to defend ourselves against "whatever". The former was misunderstood and the latter spread the word about the terrible Dems for the right wingers long before other issues became the focus of politicians.

[mitchum]

21. Another repub tactic to get the have-nots to vote against their...

own economic interests.
I long for the day when Wayne LaPierre has a "tragic" gun-cleaning mishap.

[LeftCoast]

23. It's a states rights' issue

Let each state set their own laws...