If we are still in Iraq in 2008 Wes Clark should be on the ticket

[Quixote1818]

as either President or VP. Even if we are not in Iraq but are still in the war on Terror we will want a General on the ticket.

In War time who do you turn to for leadership? Who else but a General!

PS. Wes Clark is against carting Wal-Mart! He stated so in his speech to the Armed Services Committee in 2002!

"So I think General Clark simply doesn't want to see us carting Wal-Mart and he has thrown out as many reasons as he can develop to that but the bottom line is he just doesn't want to take action. He wants to wait."

[in_cog_ni_to]

1. I agree! Do we know yet if he's going to run? n/t

[Quixote1818]

2. It looks pretty good. See this link

http://jmora.forclark.com/story/2005/4/17/01050/9995

Clark announces '08 Presidential plans in L.A
By JMora
Posted to JMora's weblog on Sun Apr 17th, 2005 at 12:10:50 AM EST
General Wesley Clark announced at the Figueroa Hotel in Downtown Los Angeles that he will run once agian for President of the United States. It was, for the most part, a small gathering. The only notible that I saw there was Lt. Governor of CA, Cruz Bustamante. As the General was addressing the growd he said, "some of you have been asking whether I am going to run in 2008" (not an exact quote) and the crowd went wild and started chanting "Go Wes Go". Clark said "I am". Somewhere in between he cracked a joke about how he was drafted late '03 and blamed us. Then Clark said that he thought if he ever got drafted again he would make sure to get an early start and then followed with THIS TIME he wants to make sure that he gets enough funds, so he won't be in '04 situation. Clark 08!

[AndreaCG]

7. Hooray!

Best news all day!

[in_cog_ni_to]

13. You just made my heart skip a beat! WooHoo!

Go Wes Go!:woohoo:

Now I'll have to get me a new bumper sticker!:bounce:

[kevsand]

19. I don't think that's exactly what he said.

Reference this DU thread from the same day:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=235&topic_id=6318&mesg_id=6318

I remember watching the video of the event, and he did not say directly that he was running. He did, however, make clear that he was willing and ready (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) should the circumstances be favorable.

[Eurobabe]

3. He's running, my friend showed him my license plate

and he said good, we need all the exposure we can get in OHIO!!

GO WES!!

[bowens43]

4. Why should we have a general on the ticket?

I can't think of a single reason to want that. It seems to me, that after the cluster fuck in Iraq the last thing we need is a career military man in the oval office. Especially one that was emphatically supportive of the current administration. He's either a liar or a fool. Either way, he's not presidential material. Of course , like last time, he won't stand a chance in the primaries so I'm not too worried about it.

In war time who should we turn to for leadership? A peacemaker not someone who spent thirty years of his life looking for military solutions to political problems.

There is a reason that our commander in chief is a civilian.

[dogman]

5. It seems you've described yourself.

You lie and write he has "spent thirty years of his life looking for military solutions to political problems." When you write "There is a reason that our commander in chief is a civilian." you seem foolish enough to be endorsing the current pResident.

[Quixote1818]

6. You obviously have no idea who Wes Clark is and what he stands for

so why bother posting on a subject you know nothing about?

You said:
In war time who should we turn to for leadership? A peacemaker not someone who spent thirty years of his life looking for military solutions to political problems.

So what do you call wanting to negotiate with Iran and Syria to figure out a way for us to get out of Iraq and save face? What do you call him being against the war in Iraq as stated in his speech to the Armed Services committee?

You also said: "There is a reason that our commander in chief is a civilian."

What on earth are you talking about??? Bush and all the Neo-cons are civilians and they were the first ones to take us to war. Need I remind you that it was MOSTLY Generals who were against the war with Iraq because they understand how horrible War is. They have seen people blown apart right in front of them.

[Catch22Dem]

8. Know what you're talking about before you rant

First of all, Clark is a civilian.

Second, Clark was bashing this administration long before it was "cool" and long before most of our ELECTED leaders, so to say he emphatically supported it is an outright lie, or a gross misunderstanding of his position. Either way, you're wrong.

Third, he's one of the few people to actually voice a plan, so if you're looking for a reason to "want" him, perhaps you should read it.

Last, it's evident you have no idea what Clark spent 30 years doing. Read the man's policy papers. Don't just assume.

[Quixote1818]

10. Exactly, remember when Clark stood up for Michael Moore when

no one else would? And how about when he told Bill Maher he was a "liberal". Both took GUTS and thats part of why I admire Wes Clark.


Your post is right on the money! Thanks

[in_cog_ni_to]

15. And when he took on the FAUX News guy that was interviewing him.

He was the ONLY candidate to stand up to their bullshit questions. :)

[in_cog_ni_to]

12. LOL! I am so shocked! Shocked, I say, That you posted on this thread!

Go Wes!

Do you have an alert system on your puter that buzzes every time someone starts a thread about Wes Clark? :crazy:

[Quixote1818]

14. So then this poster always responds to Clark threads?

How funny!

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. Indeed. He HATES, HATES, HATES Wes Clark. Always has.

:shrug: He never lets a Clark thread go by without posting something he hates about Wes. :(

[indie_voter]

18. He is a qualified leader, General or not.

Bush never fought in a war, yet look where we are now!

Clark is neither a liar nor a fool. He might have made a mistake in speaking kindly of this current administration soon after they were selected in 2000. That shouldn't nullify everything he has done and said since.

He has stood up for Democrats and progressives time and time again.

I'll vote for any democrat in '08 but I hope to be able to cast my vote for Clark and see him President. The country would be lucky to have him.

[0007]

9. I hate to think that we'll still be in Iraq in 08.

Then again I don't seethe U.S. walking away from those fourteen military installations no matter who's prez.

[MissWaverly]

11. I like Clark

I saw he was on Fox and refused to do Bushspeak on the prez lie and
smear veteran's day speech. Even if we are not in Iraq, I think it
would be good to have him on the ticket. Someone has to have the
spine necessary to clean these chickenhawks and neocons out of our
government. I think it's sad that Able Danger had vital information
on possible terror strikes and the Pentagon is still sitting on this
information. (This also occurred during Clinton's administration).
Whatever happen to government for the people.

[longship]

17. Long time til 2008

It's still *way* to early to be supporting individual candidates. We have 2006 first. I like so many Dems for president for 2008 and more will come out of the woodwork between now and then. The front runner in 2008 may be nobody anybody is considering now. That may even be likely. I'm still looking for somebody who exhibits extraordinary leadership qualities. I'm not yet sure any of the current top contenders satisfy that.

I think somebody else is going to look at the situation in the pure white light of day and jump into the fray. He or she will not be anybody people are now considering as a front runner. It may happen like Bobby Kennedy's candidacy, he or she will have an epiphany and will jump into the leadership vacuum. If I were to select one reason why Dems have done so poorly electing presidents in the past thirty years it is the lack of leadership. The only one to exhibit the quality was Big Dawg. We need an FDR or a Bobby Kennedy, or a liberal Big Dawg.

Right now I very much like Clark. And Al Gore, too. A very remote maybe for Kerry. But I'm truly holding out for somebody else. Possibly a woman; possibly a minority woman. (No, *not* Hillary who is definitely *not* a leader and could never win the presidency anyway.)

[mb7588a]

20. So should feingold. He was the only one who had to vote,

and got it right. He'll be in the field.

Feingold/Clark or Feingold/Richardson!

The first option is the all-Rhodes all star ticket.