Is the Republican party imploding?

[mestup]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/10/AR2005111001940.html

The Moderates Go to Extremes
By Dana Milbank
Friday, November 11, 2005; Page A10

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The lights were up. Spectators filled the galleries. Legislative clerks stood at the ready. Binders with the day's legislation -- a $54 billion spending cut -- were on the leaders' tables.

There was only one thing missing from the House chamber yesterday: lawmakers.
...
After five years of relative quiescence, centrist Republicans in both chambers chose yesterday to make a stand. At the Senate Finance Committee, Olympia J. Snowe (R-Maine) forced Republican leaders to cancel a committee vote on a $60 billion tax cut. In the House, a rebellion by a few GOP moderates shut down the chamber for nearly six hours and led leaders to abandon a vote on budget cuts
...
While the chamber was immobilized and GOP leaders pleaded for votes, the moderate Republican Main Street Partnership gathered at the Capitol City Club to claim responsibility for the chaos. The group, often ignored, was not quite ready for the crush of reporters: There were problems with the microphone, and the group's banner was draped clumsily over a bookcase.

http://www.republicanmainstreet.org/about_temp.htm

[rpannier]

1. I went to their site

Their membership includes Sens Murkowski, Stevens, Isakson and Coleman. From the house they have Dreier, Weller and Tom Osborne. And they include Gov. Romney. How are these persons moderates?

[mestup]

2. "Moderate" = which way do I shift to get re-elected? n/t

[Skittles]

5. there's no longer any such thing as a moderate republican

they all went along with the theft of democracy, lying their way into a way, thieving America - they're all slime and they all SUCK

[izzie]

9. I think their is some truth to that but more of this----

THey are more like IKE republicans. Old time ones. This far right have really made up the party on these last 20 or so years. Look how the right hate Snowe and others like her. Maine keeps voting her in and we think she is another breed. Collins even wants to help kids. The last I heard the GOP was trying to find some one on the far right to run against Snowe. I frankly do not vote for her but she does not make me mad that she is in their.

[opihimoimoi]

3. The RePubs were going along just fine when along came Rove

and Bush. ....who....

Bought a Ranch, a wife, the governorship, and now the White House.

The Pubs were suckered into this and now they pay in spades as Bush goes about fucking with America as if it was his TOY.

Fidgety and nervous, the Pubs are indeed self destructing...due to their weak philosophy and nefarious paths.

[Hekate]

7. An unholy menage a trois and the alimony is going to be hell

The Repubs got themselves all mixed up with the neocons, the corporatists (way beyond the usual), and the ultra-fundys. Many promises and deals were made.

Now this "marriage" is on the rocks and they are contemplating divorce.

Good luck, fellas. :evilgrin:

Hekate

[opihimoimoi]

11. Like a festering sore getting worse by the hour..the Pubs have revealed

their weak and deadly side of things, mostly incompetence and self interest. The self centered philosophy they have is a killer and now the Nation realizes the scam job has serious consequences.

Never trust those Pubs... while they have a few good ones who think altruistic....most are not.

[Lasher]

4. Many are thinking of the 2006 elections

I think the morans are committing political suicide by continuing this type of folly. That is to say, the $54B spending cut (mostly in social services?), together with yet another tax cut for the rich. Maybe this same thought has occurred to some Repugs.

[Mountainman]

6. I think that less and less people believe their lies anymore.

[roguenkatz]

8. $54 Billion spending cut - $60 Billion tax cut = $6 Billion borrowed

What kind of math is this? Money doesn't just appear out of nowhere. This president has borrowed more money from foreign governments and financial institutions in the past four years alone than all the other 42 U.S. Presidents COMBINED! From 1776 to 2000, the first 224 years of U.S. history, 42 U.S. presidents borrowed a combined $1.01 trillion. The Bush administration has borrowed $1.05 trillion. Where is the outrage?

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=\\Nation\\archive\\200511\\NAT20051104b.html

[newyawker99]

19. Hi roguenkatz!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[radfringe]

10. Tuesday's elections

and smirk-boy's numbers have them running scared...

[leftofthedial]

12. "moderate Republican"?

after 5 years of relentless evil, attacks on democracy, illegal war, 100s of billions of $$ transferred to the wealthy at the expense of the rest of us, wholesale environmental destruction and rendering civil liberty meaningless, there is no such thing as a "moderate Republican." There are only accomplices to crimes against humanity.

[rman]

14. Not all Repubs (and repubs) do equally support

"relentless evil, attacks on democracy, illegal war, 100s of billions of $$ transferred to the wealthy at the expense of the rest of us, wholesale environmental destruction and rendering civil liberty meaningless".. etc

Much like not all Dems (and dems) are equally progressive...

[Toots]

15. The elections don't seem to prove your point

America had a chance to stop all those things listed that had been ongoing but chose instead to increase their majority in the Congress and put Bush* and Cabal back in for four more years. I would say your comment is without merit or proof.

[rman]

16. Voting for Bush doesn't mean agreeing with everything the admin does.

I imagine quite a few repubs had second thoughts about Bush, but could not bring themselves to vote Dem.

At any rate, 49% of "America" (i'd rather say "American voters") did not vote for Bush - do you think none of those people were republicans?

So what proof do you have that "there is no such thing as a moderate Republican"? Do you really think that all repubs are neocon reli-fundie free-market fundamentalists?

[leftofthedial]

17. show me the repuke who has opposed any bushturd initiative

Iraq?

Patriot Act?

Tax Cuts?

"moderate"? Bullshit.

[rman]

18. So you think all repubs are the same?

Do you also think all dems are the same?

[leftofthedial]

20. I think all repukes are accomplices in the pattern of crimes

their reighn has inflicted on the world.

they have stayed in lockstep and need to be held accountable.

[rpannier]

21. Shays

Congressman Shays has opposed about 50% of what scrubbie has done over the past 5 years. He's about it.

[rman]

13. Will the neocons call these moderate republicans "socialists"?

As they do with anyone who's not either in the neocon-defined "center" or to the Right of that.