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Robert Murphy Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:22 AM
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This Board Has Undergone a Wee Li'l Character Change...
...Since I've been gone.

While I surf all blogs compulsively; I'll admit that I have not hit the DU boards as of terribly late. (OK, eat me alive--I am posting this relatively ('tis almost midnite on the West Coast) late.) I must note the fact that the last time I commented on the character of this board, the moderators (and do note: here I neither disagree with nor fail to sympathize with their motivations) locked my post. Will they give this flamebaiter a second chance? (I wouldn't...) Anyway, this may be perhaps the last thing I will post on DU (Hey! I HEARD that applause!!) BUT:

Why is is it that so many of us liberals seem bent on acting out the ^%^#!$! lefty stereotypes that the likes of the moronic boobs of the wingnut world describe?

To Draw on my recent (admittedly limited) experience:

Perhaps it may be true that George Bush is one of the most damaging presidents we have ever had, AND that Hugo Chavez is a boob?!? Might some of us (however possibly wrong) not hold that Chavez is seriously bad news for Venezuela, as much as we may like his ballsy criticism of the W. Admin? Might there be two rotten leaders in the Western Hemisphere? Chavez and Bush?

And...

In a recent post, I criticisize (admittedly, a bit irreverantly) Maureen Dowd. I also allude in said post that my criticism would likely be lost on her editors...

A fellow who disagrees mocks my "wingnut ass." Re: he believes that I simply hath labeled the NYT as a liberal propaganda sheet...

Brother, I have no "wingut ass" to mock! Mock my Seattle toned, taut and sexy butt-cheeks, if you must!! (I am not gay, but... No, really!) A bit of irony here--I am alluding to the fact that it was the Times which printed all of Judith Miller's most credulous reporting before the war; that the Times thus ultimately contributed to the war...

Seriously, for both of you who have read to this point, do I need point out what is wrong with this picture? I am NOT asking for anyone to sympathize with me against anyone else who posts here, believe me. Yet in the (again, admittedly limited) time I have returned this board I have encountered marked dogmatism and intolerance. This 'tain't us!

Let dogmatism be a characteristic of the right--if the beliefs we hold cannot be defended in civil discourse, here we need NEW IDEAS, not those more capable of arguing them...

Come on liberals, let us stay right! Let us not forget how to stay that way...

Robert
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:29 AM
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1. I agree
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:32 AM
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2. True.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:36 AM
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3. "Come on liberals, let's stay right!"
Maybe it's the language. :)
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:08 AM
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20. The language, yeah, it's got an "accent" that speaks of faraway places
:freak:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:20 AM
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24. Or, a very fine Merlot.
:)
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:30 AM
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27. Or it could have been his idea of a cute pun... n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:55 AM
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31. True. Sometimes my sense of humor goes awol. n/t
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:37 AM
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4. We first burn some......... .......................... ..................
:smoke: then we try to leave our noses and look waaaay beyond...


up up up UP HIGHER and HIGHER...to see the Levels beyond that can take us to the solutions.....

we can do it...all we gatta do is try.....
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ShrewdLiberal Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:38 AM
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5. Hear...hear...
Dogmatism leads to myth and lunacy, if not based on facts. History depends on facts--good or bad. The wise should reject dogmatism.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:39 AM
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6. Stick around. It's true that some posters are crude & intemperate...
...but not all of us are Beavis, nor Butthead.

Some of us are finely-honed and intemperate! And everyone deserves an off-day, even me and thee.

So stick around. Sometimes it's the best game in town, with popcorn thrown in for good measure. :popcorn:

Hekate
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:42 AM
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7. Forgot to mention: DU has had a population explosion, too
Waves of immigrants will always change the culture somewhat.

Well, it's a theory, anyway.

Hekate
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 05:42 AM
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16. seriously though, how much of that is legit
I mean it was clear especially around last year's election that a huge chunk of the new users signing up daily were freeptards trying to 'fool' us.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:45 AM
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8. OK, at your invite, I'll mock your tone
It's kind of annoying. I'm not familiar with your past posts, but maybe, in future, if you address a topic seriously, you could engage thoughtful debate. I've seen it done here. Just a suggestion.
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:46 AM
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9. Umkay, you accuse us of dogmatism and intolerance?
Hope you enjoy the reign of Bush Nazism..
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:52 AM
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10. There are thousands of new members since you've been gone.
It's a rich, diverse community. Since you've been gone, we have raised funds for brothers and sisters in need. We quarrel like family, we love like family, but we're family. I invite you to post more than a few random posts now and then and experience it wholeheartedly. You'll be frustrated at times, but you can also be rewarded.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:57 AM
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11. Maybe people just don't care for your Parenthesisitis.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 05:08 AM
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13. ...
:spray:

:)
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 05:39 AM
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14. Ha! Really. It was the cute asides that got me as well. Too precious.
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Robert Murphy Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:25 AM
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25. Just Between...
...You and me:

You have hit upon an amateurish quality which plagues my
writing...

Along with... ellipsisitis... ;)

Cheers,

Robert
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:27 AM
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26. That's the spirit.
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 05:07 AM
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12. Shall We Maximize Our Minimizing And Minimize our Maximizing....
to maintain the staus quo?
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 05:40 AM
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15. "Seattle-toned" butt cheeks?
I guess that's better than a Milwaukee-toned ass, but still, that's one of the oddest tail descriptors I've ever heard.
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julianer Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 05:53 AM
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17. You are really just
engaging in exactly the sort of behaviour you claim to decry.

By default people who disagree with you are 'dogmatic and intolerant'.

It is possible for me to interpret your remarks in exactly the same way - and in calling my opinions 'dogmatic and intolerant' you can thereby ignore them in a 'dogmatic and intolerant' fashion.

It is the ideology of 'non-ideology' that you suffer from, my friend.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:01 AM
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18. Feh
Last post?

:applause:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:06 AM
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19. Oh, Robert....
Have you been hitting the sauce, you scamp?:hippie:
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:17 AM
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22. tomorrow he'll blame us for giving him a headache and making him vomit
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Robert Murphy Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:50 AM
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30. No, But...
...Tomorrow I'll STILL blame you all for making me vomit. ;-)

But seriously: no; if this be bombast, it is what I feel day to day. ;)

Cheers,

Robert
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:15 AM
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21. Thank you for showing us misguided liberals the ONE TRUE WAY, Wise one!
:eyes:
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:18 AM
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23. FWIW, I got a good-hearted PM from the OP
taking my Parenthesisitis comment with good humor.
Hope he posts again maybe.
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Robert Murphy Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:56 AM
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32. You Are Truly...
...A class-act Schwarz.

Thanx,

Robert

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:40 AM
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28. seattle toned butt cheeks or seattle tanned butt cheeks?
if i'm gonna get interested in what your butt looks like that's an important question.

seattle toned -- well that might be nice -- but seattle tanned?

i don't want to jump on it and mock it until i'm sure.

:smoke:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:42 AM
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29. Heh. Hee hee hee hee hee. Heh
Edited on Thu Nov-10-05 06:51 AM by WilliamPitt
You're asking a bunch of liberals to conform, hold it together, be 'normal.'

A bunch of liberals on an internet forum.

Dude, you're King Canute.

Take from here what you like, leave the rest, and please don't try to teach how to act.

This board is in its fifth year of 24/7/365 mayhem, *especially* this forum.

It is what it is. Don't like it? There's the door.

Um...P.S...this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x171830

...is gibberish.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 07:17 AM
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33. its the same chaos its always been, complete with the same complaints
Edited on Thu Nov-10-05 07:17 AM by thebigidea
so where the heck are YOUR new ideas, seeing as you're demanding them from others?

and why would you give a shit what right wing lunatics thought of a messy internet messageboard? Exactly what difference does it make if they thought we were lovely folks because we all decided to hate Hugo Chavez and his color-coordinated outfits?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 07:48 AM
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34. I didn't even know you left n/t
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 07:55 AM
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35. Locking.
Edited on Thu Nov-10-05 07:57 AM by sparosnare
As you probably already know, this post is inflammatory and some of the responses are not positive. If you have a concern about DU, its members or moderator actions please contact the administrators by going here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/contact.html
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