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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:29 PM
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The discussions on the SF handgun ban beg to ask: Show me the news stories
of people saving their lives and loved one's lives through the use of handguns.

I just don't see it in Google News.

And please don't use the "they don't report it" line. The NRA absolutely salivates over stories like this and have the press machinery to make sure stories like this are publicized.



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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:32 PM
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1. It's All Bullshit... Gun Sales
Guns don't kill... duh.... bullets do....uh... people with bullets... duh..... buy more guns!!!! Yeah that's right!!! It's a Second Amendment thing... yeah... that's it!
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:33 PM
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2. I've kind of thought something similar
Doesn't the NRA say that 2 Million crimes are stopped each year based on handguns? Then should there be roughly 2 Million calls to 911 that could be verified statistically?

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:46 PM
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3. The ban cannot be enforced without totalitarianism
and the police union came out against it, so maybe enforcing it will not be a major priority for them.

If I lived in a bad neighborhood I would defy the ban. I'd rather protect myself and get a small fine than be killed by some crook, because that's who will benefit from this God-awful law.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:59 PM
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4. A small list of unecessary gun usage...

Elijah Brown, 21, of Kansas City, laid off because of production downturns, went on a rampage and killed six people.

Joseph Parker slashed and killed two former co-workers and wounded three other people at a supermarket where he used to bag groceries.

Doug Williams, 48, gunned down 14 co-workers, killing six, at a Lockheed Martin aircraft parts plant in Meridian, MS.

Jonathon Russell, 25, shot and killed three co-workers and wounded five others at the Modine Manufacturing Co. in Jefferson City, MO.

Emanuel Patterson, 23, opened fire at a temporary employment service in Huntsville, AL, killing four fellow job-seekers and wounding a fifth.

William Baker, 66, killed four people, then himself at a Navistar International engine plant in Melrose Park, IL.

Michael McDermott, 42, killed seven people at a Wakefield, MA, Internet consulting company.

Robert Harris, 28, shot five people to death at a Dallas-area car wash.

Mark Barton, 44, after brutally murdering his wife and children, killed nine people at two Atlanta brokerage offices and later committed suicide.

Matthew Beck, 35, shot four lottery executives to death in Newington, CT.

Arturo Torres, 43, killed four former co-workers at maintenance yard in Orange, CA.

Arthur Wise, 43, opened fire at Aiken, SC, parts plant, killing four.

Alan Miller shot and killed three people at two different businesses where he worked in central Alabama – he had complained of rumors being spread about him.

At a Jackson, MS firehouse, Kenneth Tornes, 32, killed four superiors, as well as his estranged wife.

Los Angeles city electrician Willie Woods, 42, shot four supervisors to death at C. Erwin Piper Technical Center.

James Simpson, 28, a former employee at a refinery inspection station in Corpus Christi, TX, killed the owner of the company, his wife and three workers.

Tuan Nguyen, 29, recently fired from a Santa Fe Springs, CA, electronics factory, killed three people.

Alan Winterbourne, 33, opened fire in an unemployment office in Oxnard, CA, killing three state workers and injuring four others. He later killed a police officer.

James Pough, 42, went on a shooting spree in a General Motors Acceptance Corp. office in Jacksonville, FL, killing 10 people and wounding four others. GMAC had repossessed his car.

Joseph Wesbecker, 47, killed eight people and wounded 12 others at a printing plant in Louisville, KY.

Richard Farley, 40, angry that a former co-worker in Sunnyvale, CA, had rejected his advances, stormed into the company and killed seven people with a shotgun.

The man whose actions prompted the phrase “going postal” was Pat Sherrill, 44, who when he was about to be fired, opened fire at a post office in Edmond, OK, killing 14 people.

And there are others who murdered their own brothers:

Mansook Valjee, a well-known businessman, murdered his brother Himantlal, while the brothers were arguing over renovations being undertaken at a family-owned building.

Earl Jackson Jr., 28, stabbed his younger brother, Rahman, to death over something the value of which was under $10.

Johnny Bauer shot and killed his brother Joey, and then went back to his own home, poured gasoline all over the home, started the house on fire and then shot himself.


This is just from the past couple of years. We are #4 in the world for homicides. Where are all the stories of how guns saved the day that aren't found in Soldior of Fortune type magazines?

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