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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:09 PM
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Finally! A handy guide to the mess!

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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:10 PM
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1. Oh.My.God!
It's all so CLEAR to me now!!
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Demaholic Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:14 PM
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2. lmao!
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:17 PM
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3. Huh?
K. Well I don't get it. And leave Kerry out of it. Just the way he LIKES IT.
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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:22 PM
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4. You really don't get it?
It's the giant sucking sound of the GOP as it sucks in illegal corporate money, stolen Ohio Workers Compensation money, and millions and millions of dollars that Abamoff and Delay got illegally from Indian Casinos.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:59 PM
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5. Oh okay.
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 09:00 PM by votesomemore
The audio makes sense. Thanks.

btw .. last year I dated this guy who was all into building spa resorts on Indian land. I don't know if this plays into it or not. He got sued a bunch and kinda dropped out of sight. Humm.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 09:11 PM
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6. Fascinating!
So, do all roads lead to Abramoff?
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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:39 PM
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7. Yes, In one way or another....
... all roads lead to Abramoff. There are many more players that have been left off this chart.

What I set out to do is to see if the Ohio CoinGate scandal is tied to the Delay/Abramoff scandal.

Bob Ney (R.Rep.Oh) has ties to Abramoff and is being investigated. I found it interesting that Abramoff's SunCruz Casino Boats go to Key West among other places, and Tom Noe (Indicted for CoinGate Ohio) has a million dollar mansion also in Key West. Several of Bob Taft's (Gov. Ohio) staff were indicted on misdemeanor charges for failing to report trips to Noe's mansion in Key West. (Coincidence? Maybe.)

I haven't actually linked Bob Ney direct to Noe, but they did attend lots of functions together. I think Bob Ney is a key player and more will come out as the investigation progresses.

Another interesting note is that according to the Toledo Blade Tom Noe meet with Karl Rove on numerous occasions. Noe and his wife were on the local election board in Toledo, and so Diebold comes into play here as well.

If you haven't done any research on this it is well worth a rainy afternoon goggling around. Abramoff and his partner Adam Kidan were indicted on federal bank fraud charges for the purchase of SuCruz casino, and the former owner,G. Boulis was gunned down by a thug that has ties to the mob. (Gregory Boulis the former owner of SunCruz accused Kidan of having mob ties.)

Ellis, indicted for money laundering runs Tom DeLay's principal fundraising committee (TRMPAC), and Colyandro former executive director of TRMPAC, was also a partner in KARL ROVE's direct-mail marketing firm business.

All their heads will roll in time. This is big, bigger than Watergate in my opinion.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 10:24 AM
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8. Thanks for the explanation!
I'm not up to speed on the Ohio scandals, so this was helpful.

Did you catch this on the Boulis murder? http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051108/APN/511080577

Watergate. Obviously, the rules have changed since the Watergate scandal. In my opinion, Iran Contra, not to mention Iraqgate, was bigger than Watergate, and yet the Reagan presidency managed to dodge that bullet.
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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 07:10 PM
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10. Yes I did....
"Big Tony" Moscatiello had ties to New York's Gambino mob family. I believe he was one of their accountents.

Here is a time line I have been trying to keep up to date, if your interested:

In the fall of 2000, former powerhouse lobbyist Jack Abramoff and Adam Kidan purchase a casion gambeling boat company in Fort Lauderdale, Florida called SunCruz. Gregory “Gus” Boulis the previous owner was demanding unwelcome terms. Robert Ney, Representative of Ohio, came to Abramoff’s aid. To help land the deal Ney officially criticize Boulis in the Congressional Record, and he vouched for Abramoff's partner Kidan. Boulis retained a portion of the business, but relations soured, and Boulis accused Kidan of maintaining connections to organized crime.

February 6, 2001, Gregory Boulis is gunned down in a mob style killing on his way home. Two cars stopped him and three hollow-point bullets were fired into the chest.

March 2002, Robert W. Ney Ohio Representative, agrees to sponsor legislation that would benefit the Tigua tribe of El Paso, which is a client of lobbyist Jack Abramoff and Michael Scanlon. Abramoff wanted Ney’s help to reopen the Tiguas's casino, which the state of Texas had shut down. Abramoff told Scanlon in a e-mail. "Just met with Ney!!! We're f'ing gold!!!! He's going to do Tigua," One week later, Abramoff directed tribal officials to make three contributions totaling $32,000 to Ney's campaign and political action committees.

July, 2004, former powerhouse lobbyist Jack Abramoff and Michael Scanlon are being investigated into $45 million in payment fees received from an array of clients, including 11 wealthy Indian tribes that operate gambling casinos. Federal law permitting Indian gambling requires that the proceeds be spent to benefit the tribe. Scanlon is Abramoff’s partner and former spokesman, press secretary and aid for Tom DeLay and public relations entrepreneur.

September 21, 2004 James W. Ellis and John D. Colyandro are indicted on one count each of money laundering. They allegedly took $190,000 in corporate money in 2002 and funneled it into the TRMPAC for the Republican takeover of the Texas legislature. Warren RoBold a political fundraiser was indicted on nine counts of unlawfully soliciting and accepting $250,000 in corporate political contributions. Colyandro was also indicted on 13 counts of unlawfully accepting $425,000 in corporate political contributions. Ellis runs Tom DeLay's principal fundraising committee (TRMPAC), and Colyandro is the former executive director of TRMPAC, and veteran of Karl Rove's direct-mail marketing firm business. Eight businesses were also indicted for allegedly making illegal corporate political contributions ranging from $20,000 to $100,000. This is a continuing investigation into allegations of criminal activity related to the 2002 Texas elections, which resulted in the Republican takeover of the Texas House for the first time since reconstruction.

September 29, 2004, the Senate Indian Affairs Committee held the first of several hearings investigating the possible scam by Abramoff and Scanlon to bilk Indian tribes out of millions of dollars. The legislative director for the Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribe of Michigan, Chris Petras, gave testimony. Mr. Petras had very poor memory through out his testimony, but when he was asked if he had ever had his picture taken with key staff at the White House, he had no problem remembering having his picture taken with the President, and then latter admitting that he had his picture taken with Karol Rove as well.

July, 2005, Robert W. Ney Ohio Representative is under investigation by Florida federal prosecutors looking into Abramoff's acquisition of the Florida gambling boat company SunCruz.
Ney placed comments in the Congressional Record favorable to Abramoff's purchase of SunCruz Casinos. (Several weeks after Boulis was murdered, SunCruz officials, and Kidan, threw a $1,000-a-head fundraiser for Ney at Abramoff's skybox at the MCI Center.)

August 11, 2005, Jack Abramoff and Adam Kidan are indicted by a grand jury in Fort Lauderdale, Florida on bank fraud charges in the purchase of the Florida casino boat company SunCruz. Tom Delay once referred to Abramoff as one of his "closest and dearest friends." Abramoff and Kidan failed to make good on a $23 million down payment owed to Boulis. They had wired the money from a closed account. Kidan is a New York businessman, and former owner of the failed Dial-a-Mattress franchise in Washington and business partner of Jack Abramoff.

September 26, 2005, police arrest “Big Tony'' Moscatiello, at his home in Howard Beach, N.Y, on charges of murder, solicitation of murder and conspiracy to commit the murder of Gregory Boulis. Police also arrest Anthony “Little Tony”' Ferrari, at his home in North Miami Beach and James “Pudgy”' Fiorillo, at his home in Palm Coast, Florida. Fort Lauderdale police said other arrests were possible. A grand jury indictment detailing the murder charges was sealed. Law inforcment officials alleged that Moscatiello was an accountant for New York 's Gambino crime family. Moscatiello was a former business partner of Kidan’s whom Kidan had paid $250,000 for catering serices.

September 28, 2005, House Majority Leader Tom DeLay is indicted for conspiracy to funnel corporate money into the Republican National Committee. James W. Ellis and John D. Colyandro are also indicted on additional felony charges of violating Texas election law and criminal conspiracy to violate election law for their role in 2002 legislative races.

October 5, 2005 Dabid H. Safavian is indicted on five counts, charges of obstructing a GSA proceeding, obstructing a U.S. Senate proceeding, and making false statements, into his relationship with a Washington, D.C., lobbyist {Jack Abramoff}. The indictment alleges that Safavian with obstructed a Senate proceeding and made false statements in connection with the Senate investigation conducted by the Committee on Indian Affairs. Safavian is former GSA Chief of staff. He served as the administrator of the Office of Federal Procurement Policy at the Office of Management and Budget to President George Bush.

July 6, 2005 Senator Marc Dann files a lawsuit in the Ohio Supreme Court against Governor Bob Taft for his failure to disclose public records relating to problems plaguing the Ohio Bureau of Workers' Compensation scandal. The Governor withheld some of the requested records citing “executive privilege”. The Ohio Bureau of Workers’ Compensation invested $50 million in rare-coin funds controlled by coin dealer Thomas W. Noe. Authorities now say that $12 million in state money from the coin funds was unaccounted for. Ohio Attorney General Jim Petro has accused Mr. Noe of stealing millions from the investment. Noe was Regional Chairman of the Bush-Cheney reelection campaign in 2004. In April, the Toledo Blade repoted that Mr. Noe had frequent contact with Karl Rove. The Toledo Blade also repoted that at a campaign rally on October 29, 2004, Bush meet backstage with Noe to personnely thank him and his wife Bernadette for their work on the campaign.

August 17, 2005 Bob Taft Governor of Ohio is indicted on four misdemeanor counts for failing to report gifts, golf games, meals, and professional sports tickets. The gifts were worth nearly $6,000. The scandal also resulted in the misdemeanor conviction of Bob Taft’s former chief of staff, Brian Hicks, for failing to report a stay at Tom Noe's Florida vacation home. Hicks former assistant in the governors office, Cherie Carroll was also convicted of accepting free dinners from Tom Noe, in what was know as the “Noe Supper Club”.

October 27, 2005, Tom Noe, Ohio GOP activist and coin dealer is indicted on federal charges of laundering money to the Bush/Cheney campaign fund. He was also indicted for conspiracy and filing false statements. Noe donated as much as $250,000 to the Bush/Cheney re-election campaign. President Bush and at least 17 Ohio officials are returning contributions, including all three GOP candidates for governor, Attorney General Jim Petro, Secretary of State Ken Blackwell and Auditor Betty Montgomery. Tom Noe and his wife own a $1.85 million dollar home in the Florida Keys. (SunCruz Casino also operates from Key Largo.) Bernadette Noe was Chairperson of the Lucas County Board of Elections. After the election an investigation was made looking into voting irregularities in Lucas County. The report found gross failures on the part of Ms. Noe’s board in preparation of the election.

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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 09:03 PM
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12. If this isn't the motherlode
of all scandals, I can't imagine what is. I did actually hear about Robert Ney and the "Dial-A-Mattress" guy on Air America.

I tremble at the thought of how the Bush leaguers plan to try to contain this.

Great work, KerryOn!
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 10:27 AM
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9. Why do you hate America?
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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 07:11 PM
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11. Did I say that I hate America?
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 09:17 PM
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13. just joking--good post
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 09:19 PM
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14. No that is just what any freeptard or Faux newsperson
would say. Good post I saw it the other day, and I think the web may get thicker.
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