Come on folks .... Most people don’t care about the leak scandal ....

[RedEarth]

(this is Fred Barnes opinion....not mine...)

Fred Barnes(Fox): CIA Leak “Pretty Minor Scandal,” “Merely a Perjury Charge,” Only “Elites” Care

Weekly Standard contributors Bill Kristol and Fred Barnes have been among the most passionate White House water carriers in recent weeks. Barnes gave an especially hacktacular performance this morning, saying of the leak scandal, “most people don’t care about it, nor should they.”

Most Americans don’t share Barnes’ perspective. A recent ABC News poll found that 70 percent of Americans considered the charges against Libby to be serious, 60 percent believe Karl Rove should resign, and a majority of Americans believe the Libby indictment “indicates broader problems with ethical wrongdoing in the Bush Administration.”

Transcript below:

JON SCOTT: Fred, I guess I don’t get the sense that Americans, you know, across this great country are outraged about the Valerie Plame incident. They have some vague sense that something is amiss at the White House. But is it in the way this thing has been handled by the White House that has caused such problems, or is it in the way that Democrats have capitalized on the opportunity?

FRED BARNES: Well, Democrats have tried to capitalize on it. But Jon, I think you’re exactly right. There are things that happen in Washington the public really focuses on — hey hear, they’re aware of it, they pay attention to it — and then there are most things that happen in Washington involving government and they’re just background noise. And this is a pretty minor scandal, I believe, when it involves the chief of staff of the vice president, and merely a perjury charge and false statements, and no underlying crime has been cited by the special prosecutor, so no one was charged with leaking classified information. So I think this is a scandal that elites across America and people who are really interested in politics and Washington are aware of, but most people don’t care about it, nor should they.

watch it in Quicktime at .....


http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/08/barnes-minor/

[bryant69]

1. I don't know - I think it plays into the background noise

The sense that the Bush Administration is in real and lasting trouble. I mean they might not understand it as well as the "elites" here at Democratic Underground, but they know that the Bush administration is on shakey ground.

Bryant
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[cry baby]

2. did you forget your sarcasm smilie thing?

[RedEarth]

4. lol .... I guess I'll need to, however I thought when I referenced faux

that would be sufficient....

[cry baby]

9. It is sufficient, I was teasing, too...I should have put a silly smilie

thing in my post, too. :silly:

[Mr_Spock]

3. Wishful thinking is so hilariously funny at this point.

Keep saying it Fred, it may come true - or maybe not :D

[IChing]

5. You mean there was a leak scandal? Where?

First time I heard of it.
I hope it's not about the plumbing repair I had done on my house.

Oh well, got pick up the kids at the Landover Baptist Church and head to Wal-mart and hope to get back in time to watch the 700 club.

[Loonman]

6. Fred Barnes is one of the worst

One of the worst of the pro-fascist water carriers for Bush.

[Bluzmann57]

7. message for Fred Barnes

I was at a wedding reception Saturday night and there was our side of the family and a lot of people I have never seen before. I was draining some beer when a guy I've never seen before and do not expect to see again asked me, "What do you think will become of Libby and Rove?" It sort of floored me because, like I said, I have never seen this guy before in my life. I answered him, "Well, I imagine Libby will go on trial and rat out Rove and Cheney and get a plea bargain in the process." So it goes to show you that people are paying attention. Kiss my ass Fred Barnes. Keep on living in your fantasy world, fewer and fewer people want anything to do with it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. WOW I am part of the elite

[Lexingtonian]

10. I'm willing even to concede this point

in the here and now. For the voter demographic that is now slipping away from Bush/these Republicans, and the people who oppose them already, this thing isn't affecting their views. Iraqi 'democracy' busting and tax 'reform' and Tom DeLay and Roe v Wade overturn and Al Qaeda still on the loose are issues that are getting to them.

The day after the last moderate Republican walks away from the hardliners' policies and choices, and thus comprehensive national loss of Republican power is inevitable, that's when their hardline ideology is what the remaining partisan Republicans have left to champion and defend. That's when the exposure to the facts of the Plame matter kicks out the underpinnings of support for the Bush people among hardline Republicans. Ideologies in power are given up on when its leaders are revealed to have betrayed the principles and faith they preached.

The second half of next year is when the last moderates walk away from the national GOP say the numbers. And that is when the Plame investigation findings start breaking up Bush's hardline base and the whole religion they subscribed to, the Nixonian Right belief scheme. The impending loss of power by itself should do quite a job on their cohesion and coalition, but the breakup of the ideological bondings and collective shielding should make it all utterly irreversible.

So, the Plame stuff is probably just the final stiletto slip after the knight's been knocked off the horse and his shield smashed, his plate armor bludgeoned apart, the arrows gotten through the chain mail, and his bones broken. But that stiletto does the killing nonetheless.

[IChing]

11. Cool analogy with the armor

thanks for the excellent visualization of the black knight vs Ivanhoe.
or some other medieval dark age story.:toast: