Randi Rhodes getting dropped in Austin!!!!!

[LuCifer]

KEEP KICKED PLEASE! This is BUllSHit!

PLEASE REPLY WITH ANY AND ALL CONTACT INFO FOR THIS
STATION! Also, what's Ed Shitz's email and other
contact info?! We really need to give HIM a piece of
our minds, since he's nothing but a fundie freeper
faking as a leftie. What a LOAD OF CRAP this article
is too. Like a majorly BLUE area like AUSTIN can't
handle Randi?! GET FRIGGIN REAL ALREADY! Still more
crap from the KKKorporate media shilling for the
BUSHitlerites...when will it EVER end?
_________________________________________

In its first major programming move since launching
Air America in the spring, KOKE-AM (1600) is dropping
format stalwart Randi Rhodes from the key afternoon
slot. As of press time, the station was expected to
replace her this week with rising talk star Ed
Schultz, according to station executives. Air America
has been slowly building an audience in Austin, but it
has generated few hits, aside from Al Franken. Rhodes
was considered one of the early stars of the format,
but her shrill style clearly wasn't winning over
Austinites. "I think unfortunately there is a
disconnect between Randi and Middle America on many
issues," said Jason Kane, the station's operations
manager. Schultz, who is syndicated by Jones Radio
Networks, not Air America, is a middle-aged white guy
known for his moderate views and connecting to the
"heartland." According to his online bio, Schultz is a
"21st Century Teddy Roosevelt who believes the
salvation of the American people lies in their voices,
not in the parties."

http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2005-11-04/pols_naked.html

I hated BUSHitler BEFORE it was cool!!!

"I'm not affraid of crime on the streets. I know how to pull a trigger" -- Anton LaVey

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -- Daniel Patrick Moynihan.

For anyone who is still stupid enough to support BUSHitler, here ya go: http://www.army.com/enlist

[Arugula Latte]

1. Oh yuck. Ed Schultz.

I really want to like that guy but I cannot stand listening, frankly. Randi is five times sharper, faster, funnier and more intelligent than "Big Eddie."

[mzmolly]

2. If it's any consolation we just picked up Randi in Minnesota.

;)

Austin may be more "Ed" country. :shrug: I dunno I love Randi, but if her ratings in Austin stink - I'd like to have a person who would do better in that area.

[LuCifer]

5. I C wot yer saying

But I just can't stand how he's such a freakin bandwagon jumper. Gee Ed, if you were so liberal from the GET GO why didn't you do like Randi and spend 3 years trying to organize something like Air America?! No, he goes around calling her "radio slut". Classy. :sarcasm:

Lu

[undeterred]

9. I can't listen to him without picturing Rush

and its not just his style and his voice, its his contempt for women too.

[Greyhound]

22. He does sound like him, doesn't he? n/t

[progressivebydesign]

58. Contempt for women???

Where did that come from? Last time I listened he was personally making sure that nice woman and her kids from N.O. were taken care of.. and he was on the phone with her, nearly in tears, as she recounted trying to find what was left of her belongings in N.O. Woman hater?? I just don't hear it.. and I listen often.

Why the Ed bashing here??

[mzmolly]

11. I didn't know Ed spoke that way about Randi?

That pisses me off.

[Danieljay]

25. I listen to him and I've never heard it.... n/t

[Arugula Latte]

38. I heard him call her "Randi Slut" one time.

He lost me for good on that one. :grr:

I think he is misogynistic.

[Lex]

27. I wish there was some proof of that allegation

but none is given.

[Arugula Latte]

41. I don't have proof, but I did hear the "Randi Slut" slur w/ my own ears

I think it was about a year ago, maybe. They hate each other.

[Mr_Spock]

48. Weird - listen every day and I've never heard a bad word

Amazing how just one instance can get someone hated for life. I mean, I've NEVER heard Randi slam a fellow liberal/progressive on the air :eyes:

double standards SUCK!

[progressivebydesign]

60. Listen regularly, never heard him utter a word like "slut" ever.

I frankly haven't heard him refer to Randi at all. Is the Randi fan club trying to stir up shit? Cuz I just can't picture Ed saying anything like that.

[Mr_Spock]

64. Yeah, I can't imagine it either...

I think there may have been an incident a while back between them = maybe they don't get along - I don't know. But slamming him basically because more people like to listen to him is sour grapes IMHO. I know you agree :D

[LuCifer]

122. I'm not sure, but Randi has mentioned it a couple times on air.

So I don't know if he said this on air or to her in person when they crossed paths in DC. Either way, I just, I don't get good vibes from him.

Lu

[Jane Austin]

68. Randi has dissed Al Franken on air since the beginning of AAR.

She also slammed Ralph Nader on air, so if you count him as a liberal or progressive, he would be someone she slammed.

Not saying I think she was wrong to do that, just saying she did it.

[mountainvue]

69. A lot of people heard it. I'm sure it's in the archives here

somewhere. I really can't get into Ed's show. I'd rather listen to Thom Hartmann.

[Protagoras]

91. I also heard him say it.

And I almost drove off the road in shock. I'm not sure what spawned the hatred between the two but I've heard them take a number of shots at each other...it was especially hot a few months back. But that "Randi Slut" comment blew my mind. And yes it definately happened because I definately and personally heard it.

I think a number of us posted about it that day when it happened.

[Lex]

95. What caused the animosity that Randi shows toward Al Franken on the air?

What's the story there?

[Mabus]

135. Have you seen "Left of the Dial"?

This is my speculation on it: jealousy. "Left of the Dial" was on HBO a few months ago and it chronicled the beginnings of AAR. It showed Randi being upset about how much publicity Janeane and Al were getting because she was the professional. It appeared that she felt slighted from the beginning and maybe she hasn't gotten over it. :shrug:

[FreedomAngel82]

36. He does that??

Ugh. How distasteful! Rhandi has been in the radio industry for a long time. She's a pro.

[Mr_Spock]

51. Don't believe everything you hear.

I've listened faithfully to Ed and never once heard him say anything bad about a fellow liberal talk show host. If it's one incident then I think there may be more to it than we know. Slamming the most popular host here may be fun, but it's not such a "progressive" thing to do IMHO.

[koopie57]

66. I have listened to Ed a long time

and I don't like him, especially lately, but I've not heard him talk like that about anyone.

[femrap]

115. I want to live where Ed is NOT aired....

I am currently in the Midwest, so of course I have to hear Ed...who is really just 'Biden on the Radio.'

Randi is TRUE LEFT....Ed is pug lite.

[KittyWampus]

90. Randi Is A Pro? LOL! She Bitches About Her Employers On Air, Treats

callers like dirt (even when they're lefties) and bad mouthes fellow employees. Yeah, real professional.


I can absolutely understand why many DU'ers love Randi, but she's a diva and lacking in many repects.

[progressivebydesign]

55. Can you provide a link or audio to him calling her a "radio slut?"

Otherwise it's an empty charge.

[Mr_Spock]

61. This is pulled out every time, it's become a "talking point"

Even if he did say it, not knowing the circumstances/context is meaningless to me since I listen to Ed faithfully and he has better things to do than attack fellow progressive radio hosts.

[progressivebydesign]

63. That's pretty sad, isn't it? Why do people have to tear one down..

..to build up another. I like Ed and I think he's doing a great job bringing Reagan Democrats back and Clinton Republicans back into the fold. Works for me!

[Mr_Spock]

67. Yeah, the "tearing down" of one of the few new liberal hosts is bad

It's amazing how harsh some people can be - I like 'em both. They are so soothing compared to the MSM. Why would anybody here want to attack liberal radio?

[stevedeshazer]

100. As you can see, I like Ed and have been flamed for it, but

He said it. I heard it myself. I can't give you audio, but I heard him say it. It was a dumb thing to say.

[wellst0nev0ter]

118. Eh, They Don't Do That Show Live

I guess it's better than when they aired it in some ungodly hour in the night.

[Mr_Spock]

3. Well, I like Ed Shultz and am kinda offended at your characterization ...

I also like Randi - but even in the liberal bastions of Boston & other New England stations - Randi is tape delayed until 6 & Ed is live from 3-6 :shrug: Since I like 'em both it's fine with me...

[undeterred]

6. Thats how it is in Madison

Which is fine. I get to hear Randi on the way home and miss Ed.

[LuCifer]

10. Oh com'on!

This is a guy who was a CONservative for ever and ever, then sees MONEY in the leftwing talk syndication that Randi busted her ASS for 3 years trying to get organized FROM SCRATCH. All he's done is enjoy the fruits of HER labour while he BASHES her, calls her "radio slut" and gives her the cold shoulder when they meet face to face in DC. Some liberal, eh?

Lu

[Mr_Spock]

17. I disagree with you. I will also say Ed is more pallatable at work...

I am converting the righties that come into my office. He sounds like one of them, but he makes sense. He's not reactionary - which bothers some, but his heart is in the right place. He's the most popular liberal/progressive host nation wide for a reason. I've never once heard him insult another progressive host - if he does it, it's rarely. History studying is nice, but Ed is the host that I believe is getting us more needed votes. One DUer I noticed yesterday called ChristianEdHead (or something like that) says it best for me - we don't need to be alienating perfectly good voters.

[FreedomAngel82]

37. He isn't a liberal though

Rhandi and Mike and Sam and Jeanane for example are liberals.

[Mr_Spock]

40. He says he's a liberal and he speaks for me most of the time.

I'm highly suspect of people who make such broad statements about people. I cringe and turn him off at times, but I cringe and turn Randi off far more often :shrug:

Define "LIBERAL"

:eyes: :(

[progressivebydesign]

46. He's a liberal if he says he is. Is there some type of certification?

I mean, do people have to be approved to consider themselves liberal? I like Ed, and he seems liberal to me.

[Chan790]

57. Well...

are Sean Hannity, Bob Novak and Tucker Carlson Libertarians? They all claim to be...it's a "the proof is in the puddin'" thing.

Note: I don't listen to talk radio or have an opinion on any Randi Rhodes vs. Ed Schultz spat...I just think that there has to be some sort of criterion to be be considered...well, anything.

[Snotcicles]

4. This is bullshit she probably has a big following. They could

put her on later in the day.

[Mr_Spock]

8. I don't think it says that she won't be put on in another slot...

She's losing the afternoon slot...

[JDPriestly]

You need an all liberal station so you can hear them both.

That's what we have here in L.A. I note, however, that the station is transmitting sports at certain times in the evening. What a waste. I can't believe they get much of an audience for the sports.

Why don't you start a campaign to petition the station and let them know there is lots of support for Randi in Austin. They are business people. If her show sells ads, they'll send it.

[Lex]

7. Schultz is a "fundie freeper?"

No thanks, I won't join you in your effort.

Characterizations like that are worthless.

Another progressive circular firing squad and I refuse to be a part of it.

[Snotcicles]

19. We get her in the 6pm time slot and I think that works good here. n/t

[Mr_Spock]

21. I'll give 'em a mulligan on that - responding vitriolically to "shrill"

...not that I think responding in kind against another popular (most popular) progressive radio host is productive or helpful at this point :eyes:

[realisticphish]

12. frankly, i dislike randi rhodes

i don't like her style, talking over people, etc. Never heard Ed, so won't say anything to that, but in general i listen to NPR and the BBC rather than air america. i'm not a big fan of punditry in any form

[Snotcicles]

24. Well no that the clown that was in charge is leaving I may go back to NPR

[Lubernaut]

30. I like her points

but her delivery annoys me greatly...

[ComerPerro]

129. Agree

[Mabus]

138. I agree

I can only take her in small doses, my husband can't stand her at all. Admittedly, she and my husband got into on the phone several years ago when she contacted him to do a segment on her show. He was recommended to her by a friend of ours in Florida who knows her too. The topic was the stealing of the 2000 election. They got into over Gore. She kept repeating talking points to him (Gore was stiff, he didn't fight hard enough and there was no difference between Dems & GOP) and after a while on the phone with each other my husband saying things like, "let me finish" and "the mainstream media is unfair to Dems" but not getting anywhere so he let her talk. After quite a long time he finally said, "okay, I've heard you out, Now please let me tell you how I see it and then let's go from there". He said about two sentences and then said, "I think we're wasting our time, if you don't want to give me a chance to talk we can't get anywhere" then he looked at me and said "apparently we got cut off." Anyway, after several more attempts to talk to each other they gave up. He said she was difficult and left it at that.


I try, I really, really try to listen to her but her constant need to have the last word gets old fast. The way she talks over people is pretty disrespectful. It reminds me too much of what Crossfire became.

[Greyhound]

13. I've never been in Austin, and everyone says its really different,

but I can see Schultz as a better fit in TX. Randi is too "New York" for the anti-intellectual crowd.

<edit> Ed Schultz is only mildly liberal and I don't agree with him frequently, but he's far from a RW fundie.

[Danieljay]

20. I agree...though if I had to live in Texas it would be Austin...

Its a great city.

[mntleo2]

14. AAR Is Doing Some Strange Things

They are also dropping Morning Sedition and I think it is one of their best shows and dropping them is plain idiocy. Seems like the sharp ones are somehow a threat even to people on our side. Don't know why. :shrug:

Looks like to me if they dropped anyone, it should be AAR's CEO, Goldberg IMO.

My 2 cents

Cat In Seattle

[AntiCoup2K4]

73. What does Danny Goldberg know about Talk Radio anyway?

The guy's a record company exec, and not exactly successful at that. And now I heard that Kathleen Sibelius' husband is involved?

Is this some fucking DLC takeover in progress?

God I hope not. Air America needs to be PROGRESSIVE radio 24/7. The sooner Franken leaves (to run for the Senate) the better.

As for the Schulz thing, that's the local affiliate decision. And if the affiliate is owned by Clear Channel or some other Busheep entity, it's not really a surprise that they're afraid of Randi Rhodes. The Seattle affiliate is owned by Entercom which isn't anywhere near as right wing as Fear Channel, and even they have taken Randi completely out of drive time, airing her at 7:00 PM, Mike Malloy at 10:00 and - get this - The Majority Report delayed until 1:00 AM!!

I'm an XM subscriber, so I only need to worry about Malloy being delayed (which is supposedly over as of January) but I just might pretend to be a KPTK listener, and would encourage everyone else in these markets to harrass the Hell out of these local stations and DEMAND true progressive radio in prime (radio) time slots. Fear Channel, for all their bias, loves money even more than they love the Chimp, and if they believe their advertisers will sell more crap with Randi Rhodes in the afternoon drive time, then they will carry the show.

[otohara]

86. This Austin Thing Isn't AAR Decission

it's who ever owns the station in Austin. Only a few choices, it's either Clear Channel, Infinity, or some other evil empire.

[jbond56]

15. 1600's signal sucks

if you are in south austin. I think 1600 hasn't picked up market share because of their crappy signal. Has anyone ever been to 1600's web site? It really seems as if it is run by amateurs.

[RSchewe]

16. This just shows how flimsy the control is that AAR has over the scheduling

on affiliate stations.

I don't know what it is that they need to do but they have too little power in this current business structure.

[FreedomAngel82]

39. Here in my town

we finally have a progressive station and their schedule isn't all AAR.

The first two slots are local guys (one is the state's democratic party leader) and than we have Stephanie Miller, Al Franken, Rhandi Rhodes, Majority Report and Mike Malloy.

[Danieljay]

18. Good...

Schultz has a better chance to reach that audience in Texas in my opinion. He's good for the red neck democrats and can probably reach moderate republicans more than Randi can.

Randi Rhodes is great when she doesn't talk over everyone who disagrees with her. She gets to hollaring over her callers, interupting them; it irritates me and I have to turn it off.

She knows what's shes talking about but I can only stand so much when it comes to cutting people off and talking over them.

[barbaraann]

23. Yeah, but don't they have Alex Jones (prisonplanet) in Austin?

I love that show. :D

[FreedomAngel82]

I listen to him every once in a while

It's not too bad. :) Only thing is it comes on either early in the afternoon or at night when Malloy is on. But Jones is located in Austin. I'm assuming he's aired there. :shrug:

[OnionPatch]

26. I have to disagree

and stick up for Schultz. I think it's total BS to call him a freeper. He's turned several of my right-leaning friends into Democrats, so if he's a freeper in disguise trying to discredit us, he's doing a piss-poor job.

That said, I personally love Randi's show but I can see where she might seem shrill to newcomers.

IMO the best liberal talk host by far is Thom Hartmann. His voice should be spread to every corner of our country.

[Danieljay]

28. Thom Hartmann Rocks....we have him in Portland now!

Intelligent, well spoken, he listens to others points of view, and then politely takes them to task. He's terrific!

[FreedomAngel82]

47. I've heard him a few times

and he's pretty good. I also like Bernie Ward. :D

[tavalon]

124. It's funny

When I first heard Thom Hartmann's name I thought how interesting it was that an activist spelled his name the same as a guy who wrote a number of interesting books on ADD. Turns out it's the same guy. Quite the renaissance man.

[NoPasaran]

29. I LIVE in Austin and I LURVE Randi!

Ed Schulz? :puke:

[MazeRat7]

31. Austin is NOT "middle america"... it is a blue oasis in a red cesspool.

If KOKE drops Randy... well I'll go back to listening to music during drive time. This is going to be a major mistake for this area, I should know I live here.


MZr7

[Jane Austin]

76. Austin is bluer than most of the rest of Texas,

but it's just not *that* blue.

This is the south, where good manners are appreciated. The fact that we are more tolerant than the rest of Texas is a blessing and is why a lot of us live here, but it doesn't make it totally blue.

Additionally, Austin has a large number of very wealthy real estate and high tech business people who are very Republican, and who influence the conversation and the politics here in a most republican way.

Add to that the fact that Rush Limbaugh has been on the air here for 15 years, followed by all his imitators.

I think it's possible that Ed Schultz will go over better here than someone more strident.

[bunny planet]

105. Yeah, Rush is so polite and all, asking for liberals to be nuked off the

face of the planet. Randi is just Brooklyn, through and through, some people don't get it. I agree she is sometimes not skilled when she takes calls and can also talk over her interviewees, but she's got passion, and from what I can glean, a heart of gold, she really cares about this country and getting back on the right track. She's a loudmouth, neurotic, flawed woman and I love her.

Ed Shultz.....er, not so much. If he is able to reach more people then Randi in that area then fine.

AAR is seemingly making a lot of mistakes recently, cancelling Morning Sedition would be terrible, or taking Maron off it, if that's what they were doing. Mark Riley was on alone on Friday and he was soooo boring, that leading right into Springer, who is stultifyingly boring and you've got 6 straight hours of losing radio. If they're going to syndicate anyone on that station either locally in Austin, or in general on AAR, it should be Stephanie Miller. Get rid of Springer, keep Maron on Morning Sedition and for Gawd's sake get rid of Danny Goldberg, didn't he break up Nirvana or at least make sure one of their albums sucked, he seems to be dismantling AAR now too. Is he really a secret neocon infiltrator?

[Jane Austin]

119. Oh, I know Rush is a bastard, but tough talk about others "I'm OK,

You're OK, but they aren't", is his stock in trade.

He doesn't yell at his callers as far as I know.

I didn't say the South is wonderfully good. I said manners are prized, or something like that.

You can cheat somebody out of their life savings, steal their wife and mutilate kittens, but if you're polite about it, people will say that they just can't imagine that you did that because you are so polite!

[bunny planet]

120. He doesn't yell at callers because his screeners won't let anyone on who

disagrees with him. Easier to be 'polite' to callers that way.

[Jane Austin]

121. I hope you don't think I'm defending that bastard in any way.

I honestly think that the responsibility for most of the bad things that this country has done in the past 10 years can be directly laid at his feet.

He made lying and ridiculing honorable people just fine and dandy, and he goes downhill from there.

[bunny planet]

130. no, I don't. I was just responding to your line about how you didn't think

he yelled at his callers. I apologize if it sounded that way.
:)

Yes, and I agree, Rush, O'Reilly, Hannity, reporters like Miller, and editorialists to numerous to mention have greatly contributed to the mess we are in now with their lies and enabling of this administration's policies.

[sufrommich]

32. What's with all the Ed bashing?

I love the guy.His show appeals to me more than any other.How lockstep do we want this new radio station to be?There can be many democratic voices.I don't want to listen to any station that's just dogma all every day.Why do some have to be so virulent in their dislike for anyone on AA?God,have you listened to the alternative lately?

[Mr_Spock]

140. It's a "trendy" thing to do here at DU.

There are several "favorite" Dem's & hobbies on the bash list at DU. You can be sure at any one time there will be a thread bashing one of these:

Car racing of any kind (but especially NASCAR)
Hilary Clinton
James Carville (newly added!!)
Gun sportspersons of any kind
Bill Clinton
Ed Shultz

There are others, but this is a "hot list" with the most likely to be bashed subjects. There are many others that the "open minded" people of DU "hate" :eyes:

[FreedomAngel82]

33. The thing I love about Rhandi

Is she tells you the truth about everything. I have tried listening to Mr. Schultz and he sounds too much like Limbaugh to me. :shrug: I personally enjoy Rhandi better. We get her here in my town and we can go either way. I was surprised they had her on instead of Shultz.

[lonestarnot]

34. Looks like another turd on the Christmas tree to me.

[global1]

35. AAR Station WCPT In Chicago Is Apologizing For Cutting Randi's Show....

to a half-hour during the week.

WCPT runs Ed Schultz's show instead of Randi's during her time spot and they run Randi's show afterwards. They never run her full show.

Now they are saying that the FCC regulates their broadcasting day and is telling them when to sign on in the a.m. and sign off in the p.m.

This period they have to sign off at 5:30pm CST. This leaves only a 1/2 hour of Randi's show. With her 'bounce your boobies' lead in on Friday's and the apology/explanation by WCPT and commercials - we are treated to only about 15 minutes of Randi.

My feeling is that *Co doesn't want Randi to be heard and they are pressuring stations/station managers to censor her. Randi is both passionate and knowledgeable. She is spot on in her analysis of what is going on with *Co.

Randi makes everything so clear and she backs it up with proof to suppport her statements. I don't think *Co wants her to be heard - because she has the credibility that they don't.

The FCC works for *Co and they don't want the Chicago Area Mkt to know the truth. So they are putting the screws to WCPT. If WCPT were smart they should air Randi when they now air Ed Schultz. They should relegate Ed to the censored time slot.

When I first turn on the station and hear Schultz - I think I have the wrong station on - because he sounds so much like Rush. I tolerate Ed - but he is not Randi.

For those of you in the Chicago Area - please call, write or e-mail WCPT to trade Randi for Ed Schultz or better yet - what can we do to get WCPT signal stronger and have longer broadcasting hours? Any ideas?

[B Calm]

43. Jesus, if Randi scares them, can you imagine what Malloy does

to those brave Texans!

[FreedomAngel82]

49. LOL!

Now that would be funny to see! Rhandi is tame compared to Malloy.

[progressivebydesign]

52. Actually, I think Ed wins over more converts than Randi would.

She's great at preachin' to the choir, but Ed is the one that is appealing to the moderates (who we desperately need). Does Ed sound like Rush? Only his voice and some of his folksiness.. but he doesn't espouse hate like Rush, nor does he push lies and Bush memes. Ed is CRUCIAL to turning things around for the Democrats because he DOES sound like Rush. That's probably why he's so popular.. in a wierd way. There's a comfort in familiarity, and his common sense, no bullshit, stuff would be appealing to someone that might be open to crossing over. Like another DUer said, Ed is responsible for some of their Repub friends coming over to our side.

[Davis_X_Machina]

59. It's not some grand...

..conspiracy to muzzle Randi.

It has to do with the long-range propagation of AM signals after dark, frequency sharing and antenna patterns.

Hundreds, if not thousands of low-powered AM stations nationwide operate under such restrictions.

I can't imagine a conspiracy to deprive me of hockey play-by-play, but that's what's happening here.

[TrueAmerican]

42. If you are so upset, start a campaign to get her back on the air

If the station won't carry her at all, see if another station will pick her up.

As someone mentioned before, Air America is carried by a lot of weak stations and when they are in the 1600's it's even harder to pick them up. Air America will do better when the lower freq. stations start picking them up. That's why Air America does better in Portland at 620 am.

[Buddyblazon]

77. Here in Denver...it's on 760

It's based out of Boulder. But real strong signal 30 miles to the SE here in Denver.

And you can even get it as far south as Colorado Springs. And that's an additional 65 miles south of Denver. I don't know about to the North though. Probably just as good.

But they may be the reason that AAR is picking up momentum. One of the local papers gave them new station of the year. More and more people are coming to me and asking me if I listen. "Uh...I am so cool. I was webstreaming from the first day."


I like Ed. I like Randi too. Although sometimes he a little insecure in his positions. And although I go NUTS when she won't let anybody be heard...or when she bashes Al.

I went to an appearance she had to celebrate 760's first birthday. Line's around the venue. But within her first 5 minutes on the podium she had bashed Al a handful of times.

Is that a show? Or does she really hate him that much?

[TrueAmerican]

104. Yes, I have listen to 760 on my trips to Colorado Springs

I even flew into Denver once, and listened to it on the Interstate while driving all the way to Colorado Springs. It's a pretty strong station. I also programed the radio with AAR preselects on all the rental cars I drive. No matter what button a person pushes, AAR would be selected. ;)

[progressivebydesign]

44. Sorry, I like Big Ed. I guess some folks can't handle independence.

You know, as I read people here trashing Ed constantly I realize how much some folks on the left can be just like the extremist righties. Ed is appealing to me because he doesn't follow a party line for the sake of following it. He doesn't talk about hate, he talks common sense stuff. I don't have to agree with everything the guy says, but I like the way he thinks.

Everyone has their own taste. I can't handle listening to Randi for more than a few minutes. I know she has her fans here, and I respect that, but I think she turns more people off than anyone on AAR, becuase of her inability to listen to the people who call in, always looking for her next zinger.

Folks like Ed are the key to winning back the Reagan Democrats and Clinton Republicans. He is not a hard-liner, but more folksy and straight forward. I can totally picture someone like that getting through to some of the republicans I know, whereas others on AAR would elicit an immediate channel change.

[tallahasseedem]

45. I think it is an excellent move.

Big Eddie can connect with people there much better than Randi can. He is considered to be a "good ol' boy" which gives him a fighting chance to get our message across.

[B Calm]

50. Those good ol' boy's in Texas are too scared to listen to Randi!!

ha ha ha ha

[tallahasseedem]

56. I dont think they are too scared,

I think she is, quite frankly, geared toward the hardcore Liberal audience. If we ever have any hope of getting the message through to middle America, it is going to have to be through someone like Ed.

[Mr_Spock]

53. Absolutely.

I hate to be rah-rah here, but he really does speak in a way that allows many people who have liberal viewpoints to "come out of the closet" as it were. I really think this is all good IMHO.

[progressivebydesign]

54. I totally agree. Ed has that down home appeal.

Randi's great for people that agree with her already, she isn't winning over moderates, I'd guess.

[cry baby]

62. Being from Tx., I understand why Ed might go over better there.

They need someone that sounds like themselves, Ed has a bit of a southern accent.

[madrchsod]

65. it`s all about selling soap

if the advertisers like ed instead of randy and their feedback back it up, well randi is out and ed is in. i`ve heard a few minutes of both and i can tell that ed would be more popular with the advertisers in many areas of the country. ed has a more soft spoken down home delivery and randi is to in your face for alot of people.
the bottom line is the bottom line of the people who send the checks.

[Moochy]

74. ding ding ding

AAR and local station heads are 100% concerned with numbers, as they are legally compelled to be, as executives of for-profit companies.

[SoCalDem]

70. So. Is hannity being cancelled in favor of Rush?..

The real problem is that ONE liberal voice is apparently the "quota", yet there can be (and ARE) MANY conservative voices? :puke:

and why are the SHRILL voices that LIBERALS all hate, not being cancelled?

[laureloak]

71. , I'm sooo sick of the shrill style.

Wish Dems would show some class and leave that stlye to the RWs. Just my $.02.

[Name removed]

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[yurbud]

75. Serious with that church of Satan stuff? seems like a freeper troll joke

[Jane Austin]

78. Gun Ownership

is a historical necessity in Texas, and is part of our culture.

It's mostly about hunting now, but lots of people react viscerally and irrationally to talk of outlawing guns.

It reminds me of how some men respond to advice that they have their male dogs neutered.

It's castration. Surgically. And a lot of men get all weird about doing that to their dog.

No amount of reasoned argument can get past the squirminess and irrational reaction of these men. I think it's like that with lots of gun owners.

Ed Schultz makes it OK to be a gun owner AND a Democrat. I hope he thrives here in Austin and brings thousands of gun-owning Texans over to the good side.

[DS1]

79. Good, I'd rather take a cheesegrater to my ears

[Douglas Carpenter]

80. of for crying out loud...Ed is NOT a fundie freeper

I don't care for his show very much and personally I would tend to prefer Randi. But that's besides the point.

I probably agree with Randi more often than Ed. But he has convinced me that he is a genuine progressive - and few people are more out spoken against the neo-dems than me.

Even if he might not always been as enlightened as he out to be on some social issues.

He is making a very, very valuable contribution to the cause.

[K8-EEE]

81. Randi Is Kinda Shrill, IMO. I Agree With Her But She's Annoying.

If her show isn't generating ratings or pulling in the ad revenue, then I think it's OK to drop it. They gave it a chance after all. Whichever format gets more traction, does more for progressive radio, great.

Randi has her moments but honestly I had to turn it off on Friday -- she went into this big rant about how the Argentines were protesting because BushCo wanted to assasinate their President, she thought Chavez was the president of ARGENTINA?? It was really embarassing -- I turned it off.

She has her good segments but I find her too shrill to listen to for mor than 15 minutes at a time. I'm not too crazy about Ed Schultz either but if he doesn't improve on the time slot, they can go with somebody else.

[K8-EEE]

83. Was Anybody Else Embarassed By Her Shouting Down "Scott?"

Also on the Friday show this guy from GA called up to argue with her and he compared her to Rush, and just to proved she's not like Rush, she FREAKED OUT AND SHOUTED HIM DOWN AND HUNG UP ON HIM...making me think the guy was right. Then she went on and on about how his mother didn't raise him right. I think he called her "delusional" well of course she was completely right about what she was saying but she threw this huge fit, I found her MEGA EMBARASSING on Friday.

[Douglas Carpenter]

84. I like Randi and overall prefer her to Ed -- but frankly she does get

nut-so sometimes. I remember a real innocent sounding guy called in from Chicago and told her how much he liked her show. And then made the comment that the Democratic Party needs to get organized in the way in was back in the old days. Randi just started shouting at him, "organized to do what" and just started to shout down someone who was obviously on our side.

Another time a very innocent sounding guy from Texas who explained that he was a a liberal but was pro-life. Again, Randi just started started shouting him down and saying, "you're not a liberal, you're not a liberal" and hung up on him.

Ed has more self control than that. Even though I actually prefer Randi's show.

[stevedeshazer]

82. Your hatred of Ed Schultz is getting in the way of your judgment.

It's not real helpful to start a war between two talk show hosts and their fans. I listen to both, and like both of them.

I call bullshit on this whole thing.

[Cleita]

85. Ed Schultz has too many things that he admits that

he agrees with Rush, Sean and Bill on. That does not make him a liberal in my book.

[Douglas Carpenter]

87. he supports single-payer universal health care

he supports fair trade agreements and a better safety net.

That is NOT fundi-freeper Rush, Sean and Bill talk. In fact it is well to the left of most of the Democratic Party leadership.

[Cleita]

88. Yes, and I have said that on other posts that he is

very good with labor issues. I wish he'd get rid of the RW talking points because he has a coast to coast audience, he's not doing our other causes any good.

[Douglas Carpenter]

89. anyone who convinces a lot of people to vote Democrat

and convinces a lot of people to support most progressives causes is doing our cause a lot of good. Again, he is not my cup of tea. But, I can see where his earthy style sells very well and changes minds of lots and lots of people others cannot reach.

[upi402]

98. I said that for a long time, but our truth can persuade if it gets out

I figured we needed to attract the shade tree mechanics, dirt bikers, hunters, fishers -every chicken that's voting for Colonel Sanders too!

But now I figure our message is sound and the light needs to be shone.
Your position is a good one, however, and I wish I had a crystal ball...
:toast:

[Tinksrival]

103. You are exactly right

I love Randi, but she preaches to the choir. As far as the "heartland" goes, anyone who has had a steady stream of right wing talking points and only radio choice has been limpballs is not going to give Randi the time of day. Ed is a softer transition, and it doesn't hurt that he sounds like Rush. We have to be smart and play to win. There are an awful lot of misconceptions about Democrats that need to be dispelled but we have to get the sheeple to listen first. Talk radio is the best and fastest way to do this, if we are smart about it.

I'm married to an once Army republican so I have experience in this!

[lies and propaganda]

92. this is completely unaccepatable on the part of AAR

Quite a sad display.
So Austin is liberal enough to have a liberal radio station, but not enough to have someone a little less palapable for Texans? embarrassing.

[Douglas Carpenter]

94. Ed is not AAR

this was almost certainly a local decision

[Rosco T.]

111. How many times does it need to be said.. THIS IS NOT AN AAR DECISION!!!!

[the_spectator]

123. "palatable" was the word you were reaching for, I think:

(Although Randi, being a big girl, would certainly be "palpable" enough for almost anyone!)

[NoPasaran]

93. And as an aside... Fuck Teddy Roosevelt!

He was a bloodthirsty imperialist warmonger. I cannot for the life of me understand all the love he gets on this board! :puke:

[bluestateguy]

96. Swell

I can't seem to be in the majority on anything anymore. The TV shows I like get cancelled, and everybody I vote for loses.

Nobody ever polled me on these nonsense "Arbitron" ratings.

I was not polled.

Where do I go to be counted?

[upi402]

97. Seattle sunk her to night time from drive time

Seattle's Air America now has college football and phony "interview" spots supporting conservative's local ballot initiatives.

KPTK AM 1090 moved Malloy to late night. Rhodes is moved out of afternoon drive time to just before Malloy.

Please write, email, or call them;
http://www.am1090seattle.com/

[proud2BlibKansan]

99. Don't dismiss Ed Schultz

I learned to love him. He is not at all a fundie freeper. He's more middle than right or left but he absolutely despises bush and his tribe. And he isn't afraid to say so. Ed also has great guests. In many ways, his show is more educational than Randi's.

I like Randi too but I would agree she is way too far left for many listeners.

[Danieljay]

101. hey, where are you at in Kansas...I moved to Portland from Wichita

two 1/2 years ago.

daniel

[proud2BlibKansan]

102. I am in KC

and I listen to Ed and Randi on satellite radio. It's still too red here for progressive or liberal talk radio,

[womanofthehills]

114. Randy has the facts & humor too

Give me Randy over Ed any day. I can see where Ed might be more able to pull in the righties but I get bored with him very fast. Also, he is often unaware of the latest developments. Randy is a C-Span junkie so she always has the info right from the horse"s mouth. Randy keeps my interest and she was really on a roll the other day reading quotes from Scooter's book - "The Apprentice" . She was really enjoying herself and I was enjoying her. She is my favorite.

[MojoXN]

106. Do yourself a favor...

Post this: http://www.army.com/enlist on FreeRepublic.

MojoXN

[upi402]

107. Rhodes is too left for many cuz they never hear that message!

Randi wouldn't be too left for people if they had been hearing the truth all this time.

It must get out or democracy is toast.

[ourbluenation]

108. I could care less as long as it's a leftie. I like them both. Middle

America may relate to Big Eddie a little easier. It will be ok. PLus - you can always listen to Rhandi on the internet. Big Eddie comes on in SFO right after Al Frankin. Then followed by Rhandi.

[buddysmellgood]

109. Randi is hard to listen to. I like Ed.

[Joey Liberal]

110. I don't like Schultz - I LOVE Randi n.t

[Rosco T.]

112. Well, this is what XM is good for... n/m

[podnoi]

113. Used to enjoy her, now I just can't listen to her

I LOVE AAR.

I have it on whenever I drive. But I just can't stomach Randi anymore. I generally agree with her. But she has been spending way too much of her show calling names and yes, even exagerating. I am extremely progressive. But while her content has a lot of good in it, her approach is reminding me more and more of the Repubs. People like her may get others stirred up and do damage to the right, but I don't think voices like hers are productive to the left, or the country, in the long run.
Just my opinion.

[tavalon]

116. We get a lousy signal down in the southern part of Austin

but I still tune in if Randi Rhodes or Mike Malloy are on. I guess I'll stop tuning in as much.

[geomon666]

117. Schultz won't do any better.

He's out gunned. KOKE 1600 is at the end of the dial. The rethugs have 3 stations more powerful than that one. KLBJ, KJCE, and WOAI. WOAI is the only one with a worse rating than KOKE out of those 3 and they are dominated with right wing filth like Limbaugh and Hannity and the like.

[rucky]

125. I like Schultz and I LOVE Randi. Don't make me choose...

www.xmradio.com

[flying_wahini]

126. Perhaps it is not about Randi at all,

but more about marketing in the Austin area.....
I used to live there years ago, (UT)
but maybe AirAmerica is trying to persuade the more conservative
crowd there........ I LOVE Randi, don't get me wrong,
but if the purpose of the show is to persuade, then maybe
he is better at reaching the fundies out there....JMHO

[Norquist Nemesis]

136. Ed will appeal to a broader audience

I like Randi, too! We're fortunate enough to have WCPT airing (but only from sun up to sun down :cry: ) and it's Jones Network. They air Ed live, then Randi. Unfortunately, Randi's show starts at 5 as the sun is going down so we don't get to hear the whole show.

Ed's grown on me. He sometimes says things that I wholly disagree with, but all in all I like him and from his callers he's reaching moderates. But, he's still liberal/progressive and that's the point! Every day he has at least one Democratic Congressman on, his guests are OUR DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN getting the message out. Isn't that what we've been trying work at getting?

Randi's different in her approach and can easily turn off even moderate liberals. The red meat she tosses out is wonderful and she's a great follow-up to the Schultz show, IMO.

[ErisFiveFingers]

127. Randi:

Point 1.
Point 1.
Point 1.

Repeat for hours. I love the first 15-20 minutes of the show, but then it's repeat, repeat, repeat.

Oh, and I hate the "bounce your boobies" nonsence. Way to trivialize women.

[PowerToThePeople]

128. Who is this Ed Shultz?

I am quite happy with Randy, Mike M, Rachel Madow, and Morning sedition. Weekends catch Ring of fire, sometimes Springer.

Only other one I listen to is Amy Goodman.

[geekgrrl]

131. I love Randi & her outrage but sometimes it is too much- I also like Ed.

They are both on AAR here in Madison.

Ed never struck me as anything but perhaps *slightly* more moderate than Randi (and what is that, really?). He never bothered me. Certainly never seemed like a Freeper.

I love Randi. Especially after the "election" last year, her outrage was all I could listen too and pulled me through. Sometimes I need her outrage validating my own, sometimes it is too much and gets my blood pressure up and I have to listen to the Indigo Girls.

[trogdor]

137. I had to turn her off the other day.

The last podcast I had was the one where she would go off on this circular rant on hypocrite holier-than-thou Republicans and their dime store porn novels. It was fine for awhile, but it was clear that she intended to do this for the entire three hours. This is when the producer has to either (1) give her something else to talk about apart from Scooter Libby's Japanese porn, or (2) have her take listener calls or something, but I guess her producer had a dental appointment or something that day. I am about as huguguguguguge a Randi fan as anyone else here, but there came a point where I had to listen to something else.

[MadisonProgressive]

132. I listen to both of them here in Madison

Randi is good at preaching to the choir of the far-left (us). She is not all that good at converting people that are questioning the republican party because she turns people off. I like her content but think her delivery is sometimes a little harsh.

Ed, on the other hand, works well with others. He doesn't screen his calls at all and therefore gets a lot of people on both sides. He tries to be respectful and logical in talking to the 'righties', unless they treat his with disrespect, when he lowers the hammer.

I think Ed will probably help our cause by replacing Randi in Austin. Just MHO.

[Chalco]

133. I love Randi and hate Ed Shultz.

He's a whiner. She's brilliant, insightful and original. In DC is have to listen to her through the internet because am1260 carries Shultz in her time slot. What a pain. When I'm in my car, Shultz is on. Blah. Randi is so cool.

[Mr_Spock]

139. I love Ed Shultz and I like Randi Rhodes as well...

:shrug:

Whiner though? Ed is the anti-whiner!

[derby378]

134. Austin, baby, what are you DOING??

Randi's one of your best friends, and you're tossing her aside like this? There goes my KOKE sticker...

[Shakespeare]

141. eh, we get them both in the bay area; maybe that's a solution.

We get Schultz live, and Randi follows in a delayed broadcast immediately following. Works for me.