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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:42 PM
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Anybody out there spoiling for an online fight?
I know that there are, because I see DU'ers asking where they can debate.

Do I have a place for you.

http://akdart.com/

Here's a little known guy in Dallas, Texas I used to work with who I NEVER thought was a winger. Pretty intelligent but when a friend of a friend sent me his web address, my mouth was agape.

Here's a taste:

I disagree with many of President Bush's policies, but the last thing this country needs is another Bill (or Hillary) Clinton in the White House. The news media have suppressed a lot of the news items on this page, so you may find some of it quite surprising. Read his list of endorsements at the bottom of the page!

This page is intended to be a summary of the lies and misinformation peddled by the Democratic Party. This original compilation is provided as a public service, for the gentle re-education of average Americans who may have been misled by the Democrats and their accomplices in the news media.


There is much more, believe me. Vitriol.

Have at it my friends, who, like the challenge. I'm pretty much not up to this kind of fencing. At least not tonight. And if you decide to take the AKDART challenge. Let us know how it's going.

He says as well:

This is not a blog. Your comments are welcome, but they won't be posted.

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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:46 PM
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1. Sorry, I have to alphabetize my bills...
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:52 PM
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4. I understand. I might have to wash my jeans or something.
Edited on Sun Nov-06-05 12:00 AM by LibInTexas
Just a shout-out to those DUers that might like go into ATTACK MODE.

Not up to it myself.

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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:47 PM
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2. Sounds like another brand of fascist whacko nt
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:49 PM
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3. normally I'd be up for that, but tonight is home dentistry night....
I might need to gnaw off my right arm too.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:55 PM
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5. Why bother if comments won't be posted?
WASTE OF TIME!!
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 12:03 AM
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9. I agree. If he is so sure of his position, why not post negative comments?
Lot of nuts out there.

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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:56 PM
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6. Don't we already have...
national ID cards?

They're called Social Security, aren't they?

Saw the site, looks paranoid and has lots of weird tangents on every bad RW radio theory under the sun.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 12:01 AM
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7. Love that line
"for the gentle re-education of average Americans who may have been misled by the Democrats ". Re-education, wander if this take place in camps? Sounds very Orwellian ie. you are not thinking right so we have to teach you how to think.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 12:02 AM
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8. WTF??
"Zero Tolerance for bullies is not about school safety, it is about legitimizing and promoting homosexuality."

So our kids will be gay if we don't let them bully each other??

Is this guy sane?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 12:05 AM
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10. Intelligent?
:yoiks:
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 12:12 AM
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12. Yes, oddly enough he is. I don't believe in MENSA and all, but he
touts being a member.

I worked with the guy for about 20 years, and he his quite brilliant, in electronics.

I didn't know his strange ideas until last week. He was pretty closed-mouthed when I was spouting my "awful liberal" ideals.

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 12:19 AM
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13. He thinks this Country has been mislead by the Democratic Party?
He disagrees with many of "President Bush's policy" but he thinks the last thing this Country needs is another Bill or Hillary Clinton. He is biased and hates to admit it. He doesn't want to be wrong. What is intelligent about that?
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 12:26 AM
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15. I take your point. But the guy can zip together a video tape room with
feeds coming from all over the planet like he was just out for a walk with the dog.

Quite polite, and efficient.

His politics, MAN!

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 12:32 AM
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17. Well no accounting for *intelligence* when it comes to politics, I guess
:shrug: It takes all kinds! :yoiks:
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 12:40 AM
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18. Yep. He would of been the furthest guy I would have tagged as a
winger.

You just never know.

And, I must say this. People like this may NOT have the correct information. They base opinions on RW radio or other such tripe. Maybe it's kind of our "duty" to give them the facts. I don't know. I get so disappointed, because they don't listen and just repeat the "talking points" and want to shout you down....

:shrug:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 12:51 AM
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19. Maybe it's their duty to inform themselves? I make it my priority to
stay informed and I don't take any info at face value. If he is so intelligent, why can't he seek out all sources of information before drawing a conclusion? Talking points does not make one informed on any issue. Quite the contrary, it makes one appear stupid, IMHO.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 12:56 AM
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20. No argument here.
All I do is shake my head sometimes, because the usually sane person comes across as a wing nut.

I do tire of the debate. Perhaps I shouldn't, but I do.

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 12:58 AM
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21. I don't blame you there! Suffering fools and all that jazz!
:-)
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 12:09 AM
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11. I just sent him this:
Edited on Sun Nov-06-05 12:32 AM by LibInTexas
If you are so sure of your political position on these things, allow posted comments.

I have about 70 thousand friends who would like to take you on. And I am one of them.

But we won't do it in a vaccuum.

(signed with enough info for him to know who I am.)

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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 12:19 AM
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14. Actually I agree with at least a little bit of the stuff on the guy's site
If most Repubs would actually apply REASON like this guy actually appears to have done in this passage, instead of mindlessly mouthing whatever talking points FOX and Rush put in their heads, we might be able to make progress with some of them...

http://akdart.com/war.html

In the aftermath of the September 11th attacks, we now have every reason to declare all-out war on somebody, but the enemy is loosely defined as “terrorism” and could include just about anybody who is politically active in Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Cuba or North Korea. Terrorist acts also include the violent actions of animal rights activists and environmentalists, but somehow they never seem to answer for their actions to the extent that foreign terrorists do.

In this political climate, we should all beware of opportunism in Washington, DC. There is a lot of controversial legislation being generated and approved by the Congress without being examined, debated and understood. Congress apparently hopes that a surge in patriotism will make it easy to expand and enlarge the government, and dilute the rights of ordinary U.S. citizens. At least that's the way it appears.

...

Things have changed in Washington, DC. Racial profiling suddenly sounds like a good idea. Wiretapping, secret courtrooms, jail without bail, email snooping and cell phone scanning sound reasonable, if they're implemented to deter "terrorism". So does cruel and unusual punishment. But once those ideas are put into play, it may take an even greater upheaval than the New York disaster to turn them off.

In my opinion, the "war against terrorism" will go on forever because "terrorism" is a vague and open-ended problem that can never be completely eradicated. (How long can an emergency last?) After those responsible for the World Trade Center attack are eliminated, which could take years, there will still be an endless supply of terrorists, because the definition of terrorism is flexible and can be stretched to include abortion clinic protesters, motorcycle gangs, skinheads, PETA, Greenpeace, the KKK, the mafia, militant members of labor unions, competing urban drug dealers, and any other group that violently intimidates anyone else. Thus the war on terrorism will used to justify unimaginable expenses for years to come, with little to show for it, much like the War on Poverty , the War on Crime , and the War on Drugs , all of which are still underway, and still being heavily funded, without providing solutions. Worse than that, I predict it will also be used to justify a much more intrusive federal government, that is, to justify the loss of valuable rights and liberties. Because there is no enemy government or army to surrender, there can be no clear-cut moment of victory.* The fast-track atmosphere in Washington could easily be used to create a Big Brother that won't go away. Vice-President Cheney has reportedly said that the war on terrorism could go on for generations to come.* The United States must not turn into just another socialist country or a zero-tolerance police state using the September 11th attacks as an excuse.

...

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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 12:29 AM
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16. Yes, Mayberry...He seems to see it ...sometimes.
But he has had far too much Kool Ade and he has gone around the bend.

Is my attempt here to change him? I'm not sure.

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