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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 03:50 PM
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GAO report- a basis for a class action suit on behalf of all voters?
Really, isn't there enough stuff in that report to make all of us unsure whether our votes are being counted? And don't we deserve to have the sworn testimony of all of the participants in some of the circumstances cited in that report? This is OUR democracy and we want it back. This is the government's OWN freaking report for God's sake!!! For all of you who have been saying, "if only we had proof" there seems to be more than enough proof that we are living a national nightmare that we did not choose for ourselves.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 03:53 PM
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1. Great post, great idea. RECOMMENDED
:patriot:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 03:54 PM
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2. Who would you sue? I don't think you can sue the Gov't, so
would you sue...Dibold, the Pub Party, the individuals who authorized the use of the touch screen machines?
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:00 PM
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5. The manufacturer(s) might be liable under a product liability scenario
They are charged with providing secure, accurate voting systems. Apparently they are not. And if you read the report, they are vulnerable to very unsophisticated hacking by very few people. So, stealing an election does not need to involve a "vast" conspiracy, it might just involve a small, yet powerful conspiracy. I also think some of the individual voting commissioners officials could be sued under civil rights laws.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 03:57 PM
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3. A similar idea crossed my mind also for
the various misappropriation of tax money in the form of:

* payments to Brownie and his continued employment
* "lost" money in Iraq
* no-bid contracts to Haliburton
* various money-laundering schemes
* rampant cronyism

I am not normally very fond of the "let's sue!" mentality, but it crossed my mind that we should hit them in the only spot that apparently means anything to them - their wallets.

It's also the tack I use when I ask my right wing friends how they can support someone who wastes and steals their money. Money/greed seems to be the main commonality (other than the rabid fundies, of course), and I cannot understand how people still defend an administration that wastes money like a teenager with a credit card.

For the fundies, I like to quote Bible verses about not killing and taking care of the least among us and ask how that fits Bush's pogrom against America.

Sadly, from both groups I usually just get the same look that a dog gives you when you show it a card trick.... and then get called a commie/heathen/liberal/worse.

I just don't get it.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:21 PM
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8. I agree! However, it would take quite a while
to make the list complete.

Perhaps instead of lawsuits, we can charge them (corporations and groups of individuals) and demand that part of the punishment (beyond prison time) be to repay all the money they stole + interest!

Then, exit Iraq, remove the tax cuts, put the programs back where they were when GW took over, and reclaim our country. The world would THEN rise up and thank us for standing up for what was right. He has hurt them as well as us AND the U.S.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:00 PM
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4. Great idea. Who's willing to file the lawsuit?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:15 PM
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6. Would this fall under the ACLU?
If not, all I can imagine are some LW political groups with a lot of money. We're talking about a high expensive investigation, and a lot of legal time.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:24 PM
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9. Good point! This would certainly be a precedent if the ACLU took it.
But it certainly involves human rights & constitutional issues.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:21 PM
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7. I love the sound of this are there any Lawyers at DU that could give
Edited on Sat Nov-05-05 04:22 PM by LibertyorDeath
some advice on this?

Lets get these treasonous bastards on the ropes & show no mercy!

Recommended!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:36 PM
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10. Count me in!
I would add $$$ to this fund! We need the best lawyers in the land!

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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:55 PM
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11. What would happen if there was a grassroots attempt to buy Diebold stock?
It would be essentially a hostile takeover. Maybe we would be able to see the books.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:58 PM
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12. Hell I would donate for that...start a suit. how does one go about
how does one/group go about doing this?
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:02 PM
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13. Maybe someone could ask John Edwards to help out.
I'm sure he knows a few attorneys.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 06:04 PM
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14. False Advertising, Misrepresentation -- of error rate.
These are supposed to be less error prone than punch cards. I think reality is that these are more prone to tampering, increasing it's possibility of error.
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sproutster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 06:11 PM
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15. Hell yes.
The voter fraud should scare the shit out of everyone in America. We are NOT a democracy until we are assured our vote. This BS regime must be kicked out and a person America has voted for must be president.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 06:34 PM
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16. Americans should NEVER DOUBT that their vote is counted
the fact that there are tens of thousands of Americans that have doubt about the secuity of the system and that the vote could be tampered with, should be dealt with. NO ONE SHOULD EVER DOUBT the system.
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