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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:16 PM Original message |
Why does Mark Crispin Miller have more credibility here THAN John Kerry? |
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tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. He's done a good job at dividing. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. I don't know Mark, but I do know John |
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Snotcicles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
42. Also DU does have it's share of Haters. n/t |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. It depends on what WAS actually said. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
85. Or remembering things in their own way. Or presenting info to make oneself |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. Very well said. n/t |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
5. John Kerry has more credibility than any blogger with me. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
49. Omg, Miller is not just "a blogger". Please be careful n/t |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
179. I think you can respect both people |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
6. I admire Kerry and I believe he lied to Mark Crispin Miller. |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
28. Kerry lied this time for political reasons as he has so many times before |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
50. I believe it was simple miscommunication. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
86. Kerry Lied? I Missed His Actual Statement On The Matter. |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
7. No, that's not the issue. It's not Kerry v Miller. n.t |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
96. This amazes me. Miller stood up against the machine first and |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 05:34 PM Response to Reply #96 |
109. Miller stood up against uhm, "Gore" as well. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 07:46 PM Response to Reply #96 |
138. And what if Kerry's words were used against the 3 court cases in Ohio righ |
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Tace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
8. I Think Miller Is Promoting Election Reform -- Not Trying To Divide Dems |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Thanks Tace - reasonable sounds good right now. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
30. I don't know what his *intent* was, but I do know the end results. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #30 |
89. That would imply Miller adhers to Journalistic Standards. Apparently, |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
9. I don't think it's all of DU |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
32. Welcome to DU ProSense!!! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #32 |
71. Thanks! |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 07:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
131. Kerry also discarded his credibilty when he conceded before all the |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
10. Nominated |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
11. Because John Kerry doesn't act like the guy from Rage Against The Machine. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
57. LOL |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
12. John reportedly said something similar on camera which |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Just to clarify - 'said something similar ' meaning |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. That republicans have been engaging in election fraud. |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:12 PM Response to Reply #22 |
52. I am open to agreeing to disagree -- |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. I'm going through my email to clarify. |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Here is the post from GDP |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. I don't get the point ? |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. I agree. n/t |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
60. Thanks. |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. There you have it. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
63. He denied that the conversation included what Miller |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Spot on! |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:44 PM Response to Reply #63 |
74. Are we splitting hairs on fraud versus stolen election? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 06:40 PM Response to Reply #74 |
121. Oh my god, YES |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 06:46 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. as they threw them away in az and nv, and told media they |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 06:50 PM Response to Reply #121 |
125. And if I recall, a lot of people worked their asses off to make sure |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 06:53 PM Response to Reply #125 |
127. That was Washington |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 07:06 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. so if it doesn't lead to a stolen election it's ok ?? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 07:25 PM Response to Reply #129 |
133. Please, little rabbit, how do you jump there????? |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 07:39 PM Response to Reply #133 |
137. LOL. Ok, grasshopper |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 08:12 PM Response to Reply #137 |
143. Yes, focus |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 08:25 PM Response to Reply #127 |
150. This is the KEY point. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 08:23 PM Response to Reply #74 |
147. I think if Kerry says "they stole the election" he loses credibility |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #63 |
90. That's crazy - Kerry could have told him it was on or off the record. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 08:21 PM Response to Reply #90 |
145. Kerry introduced CEVA in February of 2005 in order to address all of the |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
37. Fraud sure. Stolen election? That may require a greater burden of proof. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
14. Reason number one: he's not a politician |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
41. Mealy-mouthed Universe! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
43. Miller is selling a book. And, if he put his vote where his book about |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
158. nevermind |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
70. Which politician has said '04 was outright stolen? |
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AndreaCG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:41 PM Response to Reply #70 |
171. Then why did he raise millions specifically TO fight election fraud? |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
15. Because Miller has been more consistent. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
40. Consistent? |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
100. B.I.N.G.O. And he is an investigator that has proven hes not in it for |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 06:49 PM Response to Reply #100 |
124. Well, let's see how Parry, a great investigative reporter handled the info |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 07:23 PM Response to Reply #124 |
132. Wow. Great article, blm! The last line sums it up: |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 07:35 PM Response to Reply #132 |
136. I think this part is significant to the reality of the "evidence" |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
17. Is it really about credibility? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
64. I agree actually. |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
18. You have a point! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 08:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
148. I agree with EVERY word. |
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Dr Ron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
19. Why bother fact checking? |
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Angry Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
20. Because Kerry let me down hard in 2004 |
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Marlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. I'm with you Angry Girl |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 06:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
126. And whatever Kerry says intemperate now can damage the 3 court cases in |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
21. Miller did not swear to live a life of lies |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
24. What "crediibility" does John Kerry have after his IWR vote? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Did you vote for him? n/t |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. hehe, I'd vote for a rabid squirrel over GWB! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. So... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Welcome to DU, ProSense |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:12 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. Thank you! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:16 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. I second that welcome. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Thanks! |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Why the drama? People are dying because of this Bush Crime family. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. I'm glad you support all the democrats |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #61 |
80. I'm sorry I said he lies all the time, what I meant was this whole |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 05:51 PM Response to Reply #80 |
114. It's not crap |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:48 PM Response to Reply #114 |
174. No, actually it *is* crap. |
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globalvillage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #47 |
77. Please post link to lies. |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:58 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. When he took in all that campaign money and didn't spend it!! |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:00 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. When he said he would fight all the way and then went limp as a |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 05:51 PM Response to Reply #82 |
113. How does one contest an election in a state without a paper trail? |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. His pathetic, legalistic, unbelievable |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. All that said: I like Kerry. He's a great Senator, totally reliable |
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globalvillage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Thanks for the links! n/t. |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Thanks for agree with the above 3 points |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:27 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Kerry lies for political expediency all the time |
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globalvillage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:29 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. You replied to my request for links. |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:52 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. It is not Opinion that there was an enormous unspent amount of money |
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globalvillage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #97 |
102. I don't believe he kept 80 mil for '08 |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 04:40 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. OK 16 million... as of 12.31 |
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globalvillage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. As I said in my last post, |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
29. Has everyone read Miller's "Discussion with DU?" |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I took part in that conversation. I still don't think the Kerry remarks |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
34. Invitation to comment on this MCM post from DU discussion |
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jus_the_facts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
36. ...more credibility THAN Kerry..... |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Good point. He started with barely "more credibility than bush" and |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:09 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. Thanks for correcting my grammar. |
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jus_the_facts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #48 |
66. after seein' the primary process in action last year I don't trust it..... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 05:36 PM Response to Reply #66 |
110. Voting reform is in the works, and in order for Kerry to remain credible |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:30 PM Response to Reply #48 |
68. Most of us felt sold out by the primary process who was a fix by MSM |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
51. He is telling people what they want to hear |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Makes sense Freddie. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. i still question them. i get a gallop poll at 42 for bush i drop it to 38 |
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oregonindy (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
56. maybe because kerry has been for things then against them then for them |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Well one could argue that Miller trashed Gore and then wrote a book |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. Why shouldn't Kerry step up? nm |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 05:27 PM Response to Reply #67 |
107. As far as I know he doesn't post at DU. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #59 |
69. But his propositions were NOT inconsistent with each other. |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 04:02 PM Response to Reply #59 |
101. English is a pretty definitive language if you've spoken it for a while. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 05:29 PM Response to Reply #101 |
108. People have different recollections of events, conversations |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 06:30 PM Response to Reply #108 |
116. Like the "I don't recall" explanation? Yes you are right that people |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 07:53 PM Response to Reply #116 |
141. I don't think Kerry is lying. |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:43 PM Response to Reply #141 |
172. Most liberal?? Come on Molly. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:59 PM Response to Reply #172 |
177. Actually it is true. |
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mntleo2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
72. What Is Credibility? |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
73. Can I get a clarification on something? Reporter or author? |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Lying is the minor crime anyway. Giving up a win for fear of personal |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:56 PM Response to Reply #78 |
98. Then I guess poor Scooter should go home |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 06:36 PM Response to Reply #98 |
119. Minor in relation to betraying democracy. Scooter betrayed the country |
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Proud_Lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
75. Could they both be credible? |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. How does hiding the truth equate credibility? he knows it was stolen, |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:03 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. Not Excuseable, Not suprising either |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 06:34 PM Response to Reply #84 |
118. Chosing battles? What is more important than democracy? Without |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
79. i cringe |
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RazzleDazzle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
87. Um, maybe because he wrote the book on the subject |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:11 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. repug talking points. say one thing, do exact opposite, give me |
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RazzleDazzle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 05:48 PM Response to Reply #91 |
111. Pretty much the whole war issue |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 06:44 PM Response to Reply #111 |
122. the reason it hangs around is people like you continue to promote it, |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
99. I've never heard of him before |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 04:44 PM Response to Reply #99 |
104. I first heard of him after the 2000 election. Wrote "Bush Dyslexicon" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 05:50 PM Response to Reply #99 |
112. google is your friend: |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
105. Kerry could help himself by stating unequivocally his opinion on the |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
115. I don't want to post to this thread because I get too rude but |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 07:14 PM Response to Reply #115 |
130. Well done, Pat. MCM is here on the 15th |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:15 PM Response to Reply #130 |
160. Super! Thank you Kati! |
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buddysmellgood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
117. That's the question |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 06:39 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. Not really. The question is why is Kerry betraying democracy by |
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buddysmellgood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 07:31 PM Response to Reply #120 |
134. Well, that's a better question. |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
128. John Kerry is an establishment politician, hence, a professional liar. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
135. because he's saying what many people want to hear |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
139. Kerry prevaricates. Who can tell what he means? n/t |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
140. On Nov. 3rd, 2004 |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 07:55 PM Response to Reply #140 |
142. I don't get how a person who supposedly lost by over a million votes |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 08:15 PM Response to Reply #142 |
144. I'm with you mzmolly. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 08:24 PM Response to Reply #142 |
149. Key word: "supposedly". here's a little quote: |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 08:28 PM Response to Reply #149 |
151. Again, what do you challenge with diebold machines. They leave NO |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 08:49 PM Response to Reply #151 |
153. You challenge |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 08:50 PM Response to Reply #153 |
154. Actually real power comes from effecting change. And that is where |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #154 |
156. You do shine a light on these awful roaches |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:01 PM Response to Reply #156 |
157. Again, we need Republican support in order to prevent future stolen |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:05 PM Response to Reply #157 |
159. Yeah |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:17 PM Response to Reply #159 |
161. Fine by me. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:25 PM Response to Reply #161 |
164. Yep |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:31 PM Response to Reply #164 |
166. I'd prefer they wait until we have the necessary legislation in place. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:37 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. Isn't there a possibility |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:39 PM Response to Reply #168 |
169. I think if we did so when people were "open" to hearing about it yes. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:47 PM Response to Reply #169 |
173. Or stare dumbfounded and get angry and loud |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:57 PM Response to Reply #173 |
176. LOL. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 08:48 PM Response to Reply #142 |
152. He promised to make sure every vote was counted |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 08:52 PM Response to Reply #152 |
155. He did support recount efforts. |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
146. I think Kerry believed their discussion was off the record |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
162. Because there are people here that have a vested interest.... |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
163. IMCPO, Kerry said what he said to Miller, but |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:28 PM Response to Reply #163 |
165. actually two days of reading this stuff, i am seeing kerry has |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:34 PM Response to Reply #163 |
167. Miller has an agenda too - book sales. |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
170. I also think it possible that one person confided in someone |
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brindis_desala (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
175. This is very poorly framed and to be polite, beside the point. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #175 |
178. Actually I find my thread quite relevant and framed just fine, thanks. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-05-05 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
180. Locking |
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