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skinfusionz Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:55 AM
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Lou Dobbs - Hatemonger
Edited on Sat Nov-05-05 11:57 AM by skinfusionz
Why does a journalist as opinionated as this man get his own program to spout anti-american hate every evening? the problem isn't the immigrants, it's the government. Every time I see his program, by forgetting to channel, he's attacking the people. All Lou Dobbs is doing is breeding and encouraging hate against Latinos. Is this part of the race war plan?
Don't believe me? take a look at http://www.bluelatinos.org/hatemail.htm
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:01 PM
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1. He complains about illegal aliens not immigrants
Edited on Sat Nov-05-05 12:01 PM by notadmblnd
there's a big difference. He does attack big business and government. Listen more carefully to his newscast and decide. Or are you just a victim of believing what you have read elsewhere?
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:09 PM
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8. He also attacks outsourcing jobs and I'm glad he does.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:18 PM
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14. Dobbs supports the Minutemen too. Do you? n/t
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:19 PM
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15. I have been forced to watch his propaganda in airports.
It's a telescreen kind of thing right out of 1984.

If you don't regularly watch this kind of tripe, you can certainly judge it better than if you let it leach in slowly through regular exposure.

CNN may not be as bad as Fox, but the CNN squad is not giving us the "straight dope." They are a propaganda feed outlet.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:01 PM
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2. not sure which segments you mean, but what I have seen of him lately is a
man who is seriously questioning what our government is doing, and the stupidity and arrogance of the entire administration.
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skinfusionz Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:06 PM
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sorry
I haven't watched him in several weeks, and if this is a dated opinion, my apologies. I just feel that every time I've viewed his program, he isn't focusing on the source of the problem.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:02 PM
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3. He needs to move his sights up a notch... It's the dirtbag employers that
Edited on Sat Nov-05-05 12:03 PM by Union Thug
hire illegal immigrants that are the problem; not the immigrants.

Jail and economically crush those employers that break labor laws and watch how quickly things turn around.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:13 PM
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10. That is what he has done. Generally speaking, he trashes those that
hire illegal aliens, and wants them tossed into jail after prosecution.

Dobbs is a serious capitalist, but he is basically abush policy hater, hew has done much to bring many serious situations to the forefront of discussion. I don't agree w/all he says, but he is a voice to the nation as a whole and he is anti-bush.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:18 PM
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13. Dobbs is fairly clear about the culpability of employers.
He advocates severe sanctions for businesses who exploit illegal alien workers, as do I. I don't give a shit where they come from or what color they are. I also oppose the expansion of H1B visa programs, especially where there's ABSOLUTELY NO ATTEMPT to employ citizens and permanent residents.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:02 PM
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4. Theoretically, ANY show could be hatemongering....
Edited on Sat Nov-05-05 12:14 PM by ProudToBeBlueInRhody
....I mean, I'm pretty sure you aren't the only political activist who ever got hate mail after being on a nationally televised show.....if it was all about hate, why even have you on the program?

I don't watch him too often, but my father does, and if he hasn't labeled him a right-wing racist by now, he probably isn't.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:03 PM
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5. To be a pedant...
the problem isn't the government, but rather the people currently in charge of it.

But other than that I agree with you.
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GOPNotForMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:04 PM
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6. Completely disagree.
Illegal immigration is a problem, and, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's ILLEGAL. No other civilized country would tolerate that (or should), why should we?
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:34 PM
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19. Please see post #18. It is as much for you as anyone.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:06 PM
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7. Lou Dobbs stands up for the American worker, and in truth,
illegal immigration is hurting the American worker! If you don't believe me, come to Southen California. They've taken the jobs (by working for lower wages) that Americans used to do! They are not here just to work in the fields anymore.

In truth, if I were a foreign worker and if I wanted to improve my standard of living and better my family's situation, I would do the same, but, as Americans, we must look out for our own workers first.









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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:09 PM
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9. If you listen to Lou all the time, you would realize he always
says, "the WH, and the Congress seem to be oblivious to all of this!" He doesn't blame the immigrants, legal or illegal.

I don't agree with Lou on every position, but I can't think of ANYBODY that I always agree with!!!!

Lou says what he believes, and doesn't sugar coat his comments either. I much prefer that to the rehearsed talking point spewers like most of the others are.
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afdip Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:13 PM
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11. most of what i have heard him complain about
is not just illegal aliens, but the fact the current administration has done nothing to enforce the laws we already have on the books to prevent employers from hiring them. who can blame the immigrants for trying to better themselves?? lou dobbs is not the problem here.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:16 PM
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12. last nite Dobbs lunged and pricked Dean and laughed while he did it


I was so pissed I turned the channel to Martha's new show to watch her and a famous US pastry chef tell us how to bake sweet potatoes for a sweet potato goodie, in a fashion of many unnecessary steps and cooking equipment. I was amazed! I've been baking sweet potatoes my entire old life, needing nothing but an oven rack.

Martha and chef first rolled their potato in cloth and then foil and then placed it on a thick bed of salt in a pan and baked for 2 or so hrs.!

(now that that is out of my system I'll get back to Dobbs)


Dobbs must have a problem with Dean because while he was lunging and pricking Dean he leaned toward the camera and looked right in it.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:22 PM
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16. Illegal immigration is Ill fucking Eagle!
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:25 PM
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17. Yes he is a racist bastard. No arguments from me
He uses a slightly more dignified version of what Rush Limbaugh uses every day on the knuckledraggers and it works like magic.

Its the communists fault!

Its the "welfare queen's" fault!

Its the Mexicans fault!

And the beat goes on.

Don
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:32 PM
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18. Here Is One Concrete Example I Saw A Couple Of Weeks Ago.
Edited on Sat Nov-05-05 12:33 PM by DistressedAmerican
He was recently reporting on the round-up of 50 sex offenders in a sweep by law enforcement. He hyped the piece talking about the threat that illegal immigrants posed. When he discussed these 50 people, he noted that one of them was an illegal immigrant. Then he went on for 5 to 10 minutes about the rash of immigrant sex offenders. He completely exaggerated the threat that this one guy represented and blew the other 49 of them off entirely.

That kind of sensationalist anti-latino propoganda is unacceptable.

He can twist any story to fit his illegal immigrant threat angle. He may object on economic grounds. He may just couch it in that. Regardless, when you single one guy out from a crowd of 50 and hold him up an an example of a wide spread threat of immigrant rapists, that is a fat nasty borad brush slur. I am pretty sure the vast majority of illegal immigrants have never raped anyone.

Defend him all you want as a guy interested in the economics. He has passed over that line with his endless harping and sensationalizing the issue. Please wake up to this subtle and not so subtle racist agenda.
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rudeboy666 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:38 PM
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20. anti-Latino?
Granted, illegal immigration IS a legitimate issue AND a problem.

However, the Dobbsian sentiment(including many on progressive sites such as DU) tends to lean too closely to the far right.

Maybe there is another way to address this issue(there has to be!).

p.s. I am Latino(and Legal). I live in So Cal so maybe I am biased somehow.


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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:56 PM
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21. The Hard Truth about Immigration
The Hard Truth of Immigration
No society has a boundless capacity to accept newcomers, especially when many of them are poor or unskilled workers

by Robert Samuelson

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8100266/site/newsweek/

"...no society has a boundless capacity to accept newcomers, especially when many are poor and unskilled. There are now an estimated 34 million immigrants in the United States, about a third of them illegal. About 35 percent lack health insurance and 26 percent receive some sort of federal benefit, reports Steven Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies.

To make immigration succeed, we need (paradoxically) to control immigration.

Although this is common sense, it's common sense that fits uneasily inside our adversarial political culture. You're supposed to be either pro-immigrant or anti-immigrant—it's hard to be pro-immigrant and pro tougher immigration restrictions. But that's the sensible position, as any examination of immigration trends suggests"
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