Boston Tea Party - This time throw voting machines in the harbor

[helderheid]

What do you say?

Someone said we could say (sorry don't remember who you were - check in here please!) Last election our votes didn't float!

[helderheid]

ClayZ

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5271604&mesg_id=5272004

[Tace]

1. It's A Concept!

Seems like a very powerful idea. It would make a big statement.

[goclark]

17. This was done so well around the time after the election

I believe I read about it here.

I thought it was a brilliant idea and encouraged that we do it in California.

They had outlined all the ways to do it,recycled and everything.

It was such a lovely and powerful way to get the family involved.

I'm not much of a Searcher but I know it was AFTER the election.

[helderheid]

21. It's already been done??

I didn't know!

[skids]

23. Yeah it was the "blackbox" tea party.

We threw (and retrieved) black painted cardboard boxes into a pong out in Easthampton, as part of a national protest.

[goclark]

28. Yes!!! That is it, there was a website with every detail

about how to do it!


This MUST be done and asap.


The Media will not cover protests any more for more than 1 second and the numbers are never accurate.

They will cover a darling FAMILY outing ,WITH A NEW TWIST!

I'm telling you that we must find that website and see if it is still active.

I am so mad at myself for not saving the info about it.

:bounce:

[helderheid]

29. Dec 16th!! Can we pull it together in time??

[goclark]

30. Here is the LINK!!!! YES!

It was done by votersunite.org.



http://www.votersunite.org/takeaction/bbballot-porttownsend.htm

[helderheid]

31. Thanks! They did an excellent job! I am guessing we might get press if we

do this in Boston on the same date (Dec 16) as the original tea party!

[goclark]

33. It would be awesome! Boston and other cities too!

I tried to get it done in Los Angeles but everyone was so worn out from the election efforts that it didn't get started.

I looked on the votersunite.org website and didn't see anything about it as a continuing option.


Since it was their idea, should we check with them first?

How would we organize it in other cities as well?

This would truly be a POSITIVE way to educate the community about Voting "problems."

[helderheid]

34. I agree - good idea. I'll see about contacting votersunite on this :)

[goclark]

35. Perfect! I can't wait to throw Diebold in the Pacific!

The organization is key and would be so impressive if staged in major cities and small towns too!

[Ian David]

2. Only Republicans throw crap in the water. Progressives recycle!

They need to be crushed and turned into hand-powered pumps for irrigating fields in developing countries.

[helderheid]

3. I'm thinking Styrofoam replicas that can later be retrieved. :)

[mod mom]

7. Styrofoam is very environmentally unfriendly material-better choose a bio-

degradable material.

that said your concept sounds like an excellent way to draw media attention to the subject!

[helderheid]

32. any ideas as to what we could use?

[druidity33]

58. polystyrenes...

Styrofoam is kind of a misnomer nowadays... there are some companies that make "styrofoam" with no CFC's, and out of friendlier non-petrochemical based ingredients. I would be hesitant to put "biodegradable" things in the water, because then people might be inclined to leave them in the water (plus they'd probably be rendered useless)... Better to use foam, fish it out and reuse it many times (maybe a cooler for beers after the TEA party, or grilling goods, etc.)...

I know of one link through my Co-op America National Green Pages:
though there are bound to be more out there...

www.sinlessbuying.com

good luck!

[helderheid]

60. I like the idea of coolers - Thanks for the link!

[Octafish]

4. Wow! Outstanding idea! Kicked, recommended and forwarded.

The visuals would garner TV news attention.

A good press release to tell the story.

And what an important story that would tell.

The symbolism would be most apt -- telling the story of people who want to be heard, the real government of the United States: "We the People."

Wow!

[helderheid]

5. thanks! :) No taxation without representation - no representation without

No taxation without representation - no representation without transparant elections!

[helderheid]

6. self kick because I think it's a great idea

[NoBushSpokenHere]

9. Agree it is a great idea

What would the fines and or sentencing be?
What are the ramifications if we don't?
Which curse outweighs the other?
Is this a conspriacy? LOL Sorry, just had to throw that line in :)

[mod mom]

16. the machines could have strings attached for retrieval so no fines.

[helderheid]

20. All good questions (except the last one! :) )

[annabanana]

8. I like it!

Can we dress up and throw them off one of those historical ships that are open to the public? Sounds like a lot of fun.

[mod mom]

10. Might want to cross post to garner support from the ER group. ;)

[EFerrari]

11. Yes! I'm in!

:bounce:

[Pathwalker]

12. I wrote several weeks ago: "Computerized Voting Belongs

in Boston Harbor" - it's been my homemade bumper sticker for weeks. Other DUers liked it, and I get a lot of thumbs up, as well as quizzical stares.

[helderheid]

27. do you have an online store with that bumper sticker? I'd love to slap it

on my car!

[Pathwalker]

45. No, I don't, but there are places online that will print

whatever you want on a bumper sticker. Hopefully, some DUer can show you some site. I know there's several... :hi:

[Toots]

13. What would we wear?

I suppose dressing as 18th century Indians would work as well now as in 1776. In fact it would really help make the connection.. Great Idea nominated...... We need something to get the Media's attention and America's. Only do it in every major seaport in america so it isn't an isolated event.... Great idea....

[mod mom]

14. Just forwarded idea to friend at CAEF (based in MASS). You might want

to contact them! (Coalition Against Election Fraud)

[mod mom]

15. Also, you might want to contact John Bonifaz to participate! PM me for

contact info.

[librechik]

18. love it--be prepared to go to jail for a long time.

those machines are expensive--that could be grand larceny. Nevertheless, it would be a patriotoc sacrifice.

[donsu]

19. good idea - I'll help throwing them in

paper ballots, hand counted, with an audience

if Canadians can do it, so can we

[lonestarnot]

22. Oh I'll be there for this one! Where and when?

[pola]

24. dress in historic costumes, throw fake replica's in Boston Harbor !

How can they send us to jail if it is a non-violent protest , and we are holding signs, dressed in historic costume, and staging this dramatic replay of the Boston Tea Party ? (ON THE SAME DATE OF THE BOSTON TEA PARTY ? WHEN WAS IT ?)
I like the concept and I bet we'd have thousands on board a huge ship.

[helderheid]

25. oooh yes! The same date! I shall google...

[goclark]

36. Non - Violence Is The Key

Love it!

It would be so powerful if MoveOn, Voter's Unite,DU could join together for this event!

[helderheid]

38. I suppose it doesn't hurt to contact all of them

PDA and Velvet Revolution as well!

[goclark]

39. Sounds good to me! nt

[ClayZ]

40. Truth Enters America TEA Ship of Truth!

With a second Ship of Fools and all onboard dressed like bu$h Cons!

Have Election Fraud Dunk Tanks in every town. Mock Diebold machines on the dunker. Whole booth painted like Boston Tea Party.





:kick:

[goclark]

42. At Ports Of Call In Long Beach CA

here is a wonderful tourist area at Ports A Call with lots of things to do and lots of tourist that could see the wonderful display.

May have to get permission for such an event but it would be so cool.

[helderheid]

26. December 16, 1773

[BamaBecky]

37. Damn good idea!

I'm all for it!

[goclark]

41. Let's keep kick with ideas, did you see the LINK with photos

above?

They are so inspiring!

[BamaBecky]

53. Thank you for pointing that out!

[kster]

43. Kick-n-Recommended.nt

[GreenPartyVoter]

44. Hear, hear!

[helderheid]

46. thanks!

[goforit]

47. LOL!!!....Now thats a start.

[goclark]

48. The more posts I read, the better it sounds

Maybe the makers of the Diebold Machines can set up Demos for us....ROTFL.

Really, there should be an educational component to it so that people can understand what happened in the last election. They need to know how easy it was to steal our country.

Many people still think it is a tin hat issue.

[helderheid]

49. maybe we could give out copies of books and videos like votergate?

[goclark]

50. great idea

[sweetheart]

51. That metaphor with nukes

"In an unprecedented move, the new president has issued a statement on
his first day of office: The united states will no longer maintain any
weapons of mass destruction in our arsenals, we will unilaterally
destroy these weapons within 1 year, and urge all our friends and
enemies to do likewise. The cost of the tragedy of these weapons is
too great, and the United states is a great enough nation to put then
down first."

So 1 years later, in boston harbour, 10,000 nuclear trigger circuits
are dumped in to the drink, the end of an era of terrorism and the
beginning of a new age where national competetive leadership was
based on moral leadership.

The voting machines are just a symptom of a greater illness, one that
has the patient near death, and none of the 2 party candidates can
save her, unless that person is a trojan horse progressive.

[helderheid]

52. A greater illness

You are so right. I couldn't agree more on the trojan horse progressive either. Bush was very much the trojan horse neocon. "Compassionate conservatism" my ass.

[electron_blue]

54. Ya know, I can actually see this happening

[proud patriot]

55. They should have messages on them

like "Diebold voting machine" or "No paper trail =
No fair Elections"

[Carolab]

56. I want to throw the REAL machines in the sea!

NOT replicas!

[autorank]

57. helderheid, Either great minds think alike or you should be very worried

I've been thinking of the Boston Tea Party for the past couple...what an image. Of course, we'd have to toss in a bunch of tabulators too...

Great post!!! RECOMMENDED.

btw, did you notice the 'catchy' language in that HamdenRice mega post. c, told you so;)

[helderheid]

59. Hey this is GREAT! :) Good to see you!!

Link me that article - I've been under the weather! :)

[helderheid]

61. Please keep this kicked y'all - and what do you think of the date?

[donsu]

62. kicking

nt

[AzDar]

63. kick!

[Ksec]

64. Seriously, do you have any doubt that if we did this

the Reicht would be employing the National Guard to mow us down in the streets?

But I agree. Its time. Way past time and if some of us go down then its for a good cause.

[helderheid]

65. Do you really think that would happen?

[Ksec]

66. I do

I remember Kent State and how the NationalGuard mowed down students for protesting the war in Viet Nam. I doubt with the militant extremist bush gov we have today that this would be any different

[helderheid]

68. that was when the press covered such things

[hunter]

67. In Boston the tea was real... So was the Revolution.

The people who think they need to "Help Americans Vote" are not going to back away from this without a fight. Everything they own is at risk if the citizens of the United States realize what is happening to our nation and begin to speak their minds through free elections.

I am not against electronic voting machines, especially for disabled voters. But these voting machines must produce a paper ballot, and that voter verified paper ballot must be the only ballot that counts. A paper printout means nothing if it is not the official ballot. Votes stored as little unseen clouds of electrons or tiny magnetic spots are far too easily manipulated to be trustworthy.

We all need to understand what we are up against here, so let's be careful out there, okay?

[helderheid]

69. I agree with you - without audits and the paper ballot being the ballot

on record is the only way e-voting machines will be acceptable - and get the DAMNED CORPORATIONS out of our voting machines!!