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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:06 AM
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Tom Tomorrow CARTOON SKEWERS NYT role in Treasongate & NYT STILL doing it
Edited on Sat Nov-05-05 04:15 AM by Nothing Without Hope
As I'll post below the cartoon, the New York Times is STILL - to this day! - pursuing the same policy of publishing Bush Administration propaganda and choreographed "leaks" and labeling it news.

This great cartoon is hosted at Working for Change: http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=19818



Now, featured on the DU home page is a truly shameful NYT article in which unnamed sources - who are surely Rove's lawyers and/or Bush Administration propagandists, spinning for all they're worth - are quoted as showing that Rove is cooperating fully and that the Fitzgerald investigation is almost over. This is pure Bushie propaganda and they are claiming it is news - shades of Judith Miller's Chalabi articles. Here's the thread on the article:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1899334
thread title (11/3): NYT: Prosecutor Narrows Focus on Rove Role in C.I.A. Leak

Here is my take on this sorry piece of deliberately misleading rubbish:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1899334&mesg_id=1901277
post title (11/4): This shameful article: a prime example of what's rotten at the NY Times

And best and most delightful of all, as pointed out by DUer No Exit in another reply to that post on the NYT article, here is the debunking of that sorry, deliberately misleading NYT article at Firedoglake. She (the brilliant lady at Firedoglake) added the text in caps to the original NYT text in lower case. (BTW, be sure to check out the lead-in photo montage at Firedoglake - it's toast with a faint but recognizable superimposed image...)

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005/11/toast.html
(snip)

The prosecutor in the C.I.A. leak case has narrowed his investigation of Karl Rove, the senior White House adviser, to whether he tried to conceal from the grand jury a conversation with a Time magazine reporter in the week before an intelligence officer's identity was made public more than two years ago, KARL ROVE'S FURIOUSLY SPINNING lawyers in the case said Thursday.

(snip)

Mr. Fitzgerald no longer seems to be actively examining some of the more incendiary questions involving Mr. Rove ACCORDING TO ROVE'S WANKY LAWYERS WHOSE WARES NOBODY THIS SIDE OF MICHAEL ISIKOFF IS BUYING. At one point, he explored whether Mr. Rove misrepresented his role in the leak case to President Bush - an issue that led to discussions between Mr. Fitzgerald and James E. Sharp, a lawyer for Mr. Bush, an associate of Mr. Rove said, IN AN ATTEMPT TO FLOAT A MORE PLAUSIBLE STORY AFTER THAT ONE ABOUT FITZGERALD STOPPING BY TO TELL SHARP EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON IN HIS CASE WENT OVER LIKE THE HINDENBURG.

Mr. Rove's lawyer, Robert D. Luskin, declined to discuss his client's legal status, BUT HAD SOME MINION ON SPEED DIAL WHO WAS HAPPY TO DO THE HONORS, but AND THEN TRIED TO THROW EVERYBODY OFF THE SCENT WHEN HE referred to a statement issued last week in which he expressed confidence that Mr. Fitzgerald would conclude that Mr. Rove had done nothing wrong, AT LEAST NOT IN THE PAST FIVE MINUTES.

Mr. Fitzgerald's spokesman, Randall Samborn THE MAN WITH THE WORLD'S SLIMMEST JOB DESCRIPTION, declined to discuss Mr. Rove's legal status AND COULD FOR ALL WE KNOW BE SCUBA DIVING IN THE BAHAMAS. If nothing else, the uncertainty that continues to surround Mr. Rove's legal case has led to intense speculation about his standing within the White House LIKE SHARKS TO CHUM. People with close ties to Mr. Bush and Republicans who work with officials in the top ranks of the White House staff said there had been no discussion about Mr. Rove stepping down if he is not indicted AS THEY TRIED TO MUFFLE THE GUFFAWS.

(snip)

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:14 AM
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1. Perhaps you've seen this:
Why I Canceled The New York Times
by John Atcheson

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1103-22.htm

(Even after all that's happened, they seem determined to catch up to the Post in the race to the bottom).
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:22 AM
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2. No, I hadn't seen that. it's excellent. The NYT editors appear to have
or at least to admit to having, NO CLUE as to how unethical and profoundly damaging to this nation their conduct has been. I hope they are getting many letters like that every day.

Thanks for steering me to Mr. Atcheson's letter. :thumbsup:
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 07:20 AM
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7. NY Times profits down 53% and falling!
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of establishment lickspittles.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 07:43 AM
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8. Let's just hope the owners & editors don't interpret that as a mandate
to move even further into the Bushie pockets and away from journalism.

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:55 PM
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15. This deserves it's own thread. nt
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:05 PM
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20. I agree - I hope Depakid posts it and gives a link to it here. n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:37 AM
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3. This Ted Rall CARTOON also captures the essence of NYT "journalism":
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:41 AM
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4. nominated
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 06:06 AM
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5. It's laziness too - here is a classic Dilbert CARTOON on this:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 06:24 AM
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6. The cartoon I wanted to post here has disappeared, so I'll just kick n/t
Edited on Sat Nov-05-05 06:32 AM by Nothing Without Hope


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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 08:54 AM
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9. a kick for the morning crowd, and then I've got to leave. n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:35 AM
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10. kick n/t
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:37 AM
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11. "The Paper of Off-the-Record"
is what wonkette calls the New York Times (play on "Paper of Record.")



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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:00 PM
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19. That is such a great line and I am sooo stealing it. Wonkette has her
Edited on Sat Nov-05-05 04:01 PM by Nothing Without Hope
moments, and that was one of them. "The Paper of Off-the-Record" it is. :evilgrin:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:46 AM
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12. k & r.... BIGTIME.......n/t
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:52 AM
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13. I love firedoglake
She's HIRED! If there was any truth left at the NYT, that article would have been written the way she did it!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 10:12 AM
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14. c'mon.. 2 more recommeds for surfin' big media types...
I want them to see that the world is on to them.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:06 PM
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21. Thanks for your support, annabanana! n/t
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 07:29 PM
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26. Ahoy, "surfin' big media types"
consider yourself kicked
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 02:40 PM
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16. kicked and recommended
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 03:39 PM
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17. Will the NYT EVER re-learn how to "do" integrity? This outrageous column,
selling spin that benefits Rove and the WH and pretending it is news about the Fitzgerald investigation, demonstrates that they surely haven't so far. Their editors and owners have apparently learned nothing about journalistic integrity since Judith Miller's Chalabi-channeling spree despite all their loud mea culpas.*


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*For younger DUers: mea culpa = Latin, often translated as "through my fault" - an admission of guilt. It was part of the Roman Catholic mass for a long time before Latin was superseded by the vernacular, so it's one of those phrases that entered the English language. The flavor is that it goes with a bowed head, grave face and breast-beating.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 03:57 PM
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18. For a clearer, far less biased analysis of the Fitz investigation's likely
direction, see this 11/4 analysis by John Dean, who actually looks at what is KNOWN: the text of the Libby indictment, relevant law, and codified procedures for federal prosecutors. Here's a DU thread citing it:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x170559
thread title (11/4): John W. Dean: 'A Cheney-Libby conspiracy, or worse?

I put my own post together on this important John Dean analysis, including a video interview with him with Keith Olbermann on Fitzmas (10/28), here:
http://www.progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=127&topic_id=683&mesg_id=683
thread title (11/4): New John Dean analysis of Treasongate 11/4: "A Cheney-Libby Conspiracy, Or Worse..

Based on FACTS, John Dean thinks it is very likely that there will be more Fitz indictments and that Dick Cheney is a target. He documents and explains his reasoning, so you can judge for yourself. His analysis of the situation is based on much more solid foundations than the spin of the NYT article discussed in this thread, and it is far more plausible. Yet unlike the NYT article, which is disguised as news, Mr. Dean clearly indicates which parts of his writing are facts and which are reasoned extensions or speculations.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:32 PM
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22. NONE of the major media, TV or print/online, covered the GAO report
confirming widespread election fraud in the 2004 election. Needless to say, the NYT, the "Paper of Off-the-Record" (see Reply #11) is at the FOREFRONT OF THIS DELIBERATE BLACKOUT of this extremely important official analysis. Destruction of democracy? Treason? Coup d'etat? NOT INTERESTED IF THE BUSHIES WANT IT SILENCED.

More on this obviously deliberate blackout on the GAO report here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5262282
thread title (11/4): (Brad Friedman) MSM to American Democracy: Drop Dead

The deliberateness of the corporate media blackout on the GAO election fraud report is highlighted by the fact that a little weekly hometown independent paper, the Rock River Times of Rockford IL, DID report on it. They didn't let the deliberate media blackout stop them:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x399605
thread title (11/3): GAO report upholds Ohio vote fraud claims

EVen John Kerry claimed to have not heard of the GAO election fraud report in his discussion with Mark Crispin Miller. Of course, MANY people have never heard of it - that's the PURPOSE of news blackouts and the reason we have to keep pushing at the NYT and other major venues to TELL THE TRUTH and TELL IMPORTANT STORIES EVEN IF THE WH DOESN'T LIKE THEM.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 04:42 PM
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23. The Washington Post is no better - as in this 10/29 COLUMN FULL OF LIES
including a strong implication that the "sixteen words" on Saddam's supposed quest for Niger yellowcake WERE TRUE!!!! Lie after lie after lie, all of them serving the WH agenda and already thoroughly debunked. I urge you to check out this shameful piece, discussed in this thread, and think about activism to hold these rags accountable for such egregious, lying propaganda:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5216379
thread title: WaPo 10/29: a column of LIES and an op/ed of GOP talking points (SHAME!)

This column, like the sorry specimen from the NYT discussed in the current thread, is an attempt to attach White House spin to an analysis of the Fitzgerald investigation proceedings. It contains many, many proven lies and is false from start to finish. It is WH propaganda.

The LA Times, which does publish its share of egregious articles, were much more even-handed and thorough than the WaPo in its coverage of the Fitzgerald investigation on the same day - the day after Fitzmas:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all=104x5216210
Thread title: LA Times: EIGHT News articles plus TWO op/eds on the Fitz case! 10/29
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:49 PM
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24. LEVITY BREAK: Fitz's "nonspeaking spokesman" has a previous history
of interaction with the bloggers at Firelakecom, of course. They do understand and respect the fact that by law and with good strategic reasons he CANNOT speak of the case, only give out bits like the date and time of press conferences or perhaps the location of Fitz.

On Fitzmas eve, when all reporters were chewing the uphholstery, Firedoglake interviewed him on a Fitz story that somehow got overlooked by everyone else...a scoop!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5193540&mesg_id=5193540
Thread title: Get your Fitz comic relief and more at Firedoglake:"The Viagra Pen Story"

So funny. Read it and understand the laughter behind the line in the "corrected" NYT text in the opening post about Fitz's nonspeaking spokesman, Randall Samborn:

Mr. Fitzgerald's spokesman, Randall Samborn THE MAN WITH THE WORLD'S SLIMMEST JOB DESCRIPTION, declined to discuss Mr. Rove's legal status AND COULD FOR ALL WE KNOW BE SCUBA DIVING IN THE BAHAMAS.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 06:00 PM
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25. Question: At what point will readers know more truth than the NYT prints?
Edited on Sat Nov-05-05 06:04 PM by Nothing Without Hope
After all, thanks to the internet and word of mouth, the US public is not totally dependent on the major corporate media for its political information any more, though it comes far too close to that. Thus the interesting possibility that part of the reason the NYT is losing its subscribers is that it is no longer a dependable source of trustworthy news.

Think I'm daydreaming here? Check out this wonderful video clip of callers totally trashing the GOP talking points of a TV talk show guest, in fact the man who authored the Patriot Act (Viet Dinh), as he tries to spin Treasongate (pre-Fitzmas):
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5200196&mesg_id=5200196
thread title: GREAT VIDEO - Callers to CSPAN DEMOLISH GOP talking points on Plamegate!

It's true that we have a long, long way to go in getting the truth to the American people. But progress is being made.

The NYT had best take note: just because they have boundless hubris doesn't mean that their readers will buy their bullshit. Every time they lie, every time they blacklist an important story, every time they stenograph a WH fax, they lose something. They may well not realize the value of integrity until their reputation and the trust of their readers are entirely destroyed.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:25 PM
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27. kick n/t
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